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https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1036--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] ([[User talk:Albedo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:31, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1036--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] ([[User talk:Albedo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:31, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

== Country code ==

I've been trying to work out if the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code "NL" is properly assigned to {{Q|29999}} or {{Q|55}}. I started a discussion on [[w:en:Talk:ISO_3166-2:NL]]. [[User:Bovlb|Bovlb]] ([[User talk:Bovlb|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:02, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Bovlb}} Denmark also have this kind of problem. Should [[Q756617]] or [[Q35]] have ISO-3166 code "DK"? [https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:DK This source] says "the Kingdom of Denmark" has this code. But both of these are maybe "the Kingdom of Denmark"? Both has Margarete II as queen, both maybe has Rasmussen as prime minister? Since Greenland and Faroe Islands has a ISO 3166-code of their own, my opinion is that it is "Denmark" and not "the kingdom of Denmark" who has ISO 3166-code DK. If this kind of thinking can be applied to "Netherlands" too, I do not know. But that is how I am thinking. -- [[User:Innocent bystander|Innocent bystander]] ([[User talk:Innocent bystander|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:24, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
:: Removed country code "NL" from this page. See [[w:en:Talk:ISO_3166-2:NL]] for explanation why it seems to refer to [[Q29999]].--[[User:RV1971|RV1971]] ([[User talk:RV1971|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

== Remove the subreddit property from the page ==

It's not official or relevant so it should probably go

== EU membership ==

Removed the EU membership. The Kingdom of the Netherlands is the correct EU member --[[User:FabC|FabC]] ([[User talk:FabC|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:37, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

== Inception of the Netherlands ==

It was stated that the inception date of the Netherlands is 15 dec 1954 with the charter for the kingdom. But this was a formal redesign of the kingdom, nog the inception date. I removed the inception date and cause. One could argue that the inception of the Netherlands was in 1581 with the 'Acte van Verlatinghe' or the international recognition in 1648 with the 'Vrede van Münster'.

== Official website ==

There are four values on {{P|856}}. But two of them seems to be different in content from the other two. Should we set https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/ (and possibly https://www.government.nl/ ) to have preferred rank? [[User:Ainali|Ainali]] ([[User talk:Ainali|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

== Population ==

A population of 17622200 is given without a point in time. I have not been able to find a source for this number anywhere, it was added by a merge. I think it should be removed. (I'm unable to do this myself as this page is protected) [[User:Wmestrom|Wmestrom]] ([[User talk:Wmestrom|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:12, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

== Unemployment Rate ==

The preferred claim for unemployment rate has a point in time qualifier for September 31, which is a nonexistent date. [[User:Cwallingsfords|Cwallingsfords]] ([[User talk:Cwallingsfords|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:23, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

== VAT rate should be corrected ==

The VAT rate of the Netherlands is stated in this article as 21%, normal, and 6%, 'essential' items. This is wrong, it should be 21% and 9%. (This was changed from 6% per 1 januari 2019)

Unfortunately I can not edit the page because it is semi-protected.


Source (NL) for both rates in our national book of law: https://wetten.overheid.nl/jci1.3:c:BWBR0002629&hoofdstuk=II&afdeling=2&artikel=9&z=2024-01-01&g=2024-01-01

Source (EN) for both rates in the form of an informational webpage of the government: https://www.government.nl/topics/vat/vat-rates-and-exemptions

Source (NL) on a dedicated Wikipedia page about the VAT law: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_op_de_omzetbelasting_1968 [[User:Theoogie|Theoogie]] ([[User talk:Theoogie|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

== Sovereign States ==

Why is this item not considered as a {{Q|Q3624078}} ? [[User:PAC2|PAC2]] ([[User talk:PAC2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
: Because it is a part of a sovereign state {{Q|29999}}. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks [[User:PAC2|PAC2]] ([[User talk:PAC2|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 16:05, 16 August 2024

A few removals

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I have removed items (Queen, neighbouring countries) whose inclusion is relevant as concerns the en:Kingdom of the Netherlands but are not as concerns this article about a constituent part of this sovereign state. Maybe federal entities of Belgium and Germany are on the same level as this constituent country, maybe not ; in doubt I have not added Niedersachsen, Région wallonne and a few others - are they "same level" as Netherlands or not ? This is the kind of stupid question whose answer cannot definitely be "yes" or "no" : constitutional rules have some similarities and some differences.

Definitely wikidata cannot work, since it is supposed to order strictly things that are inherently disordered, but this is another question. Touriste (talk) 14:09, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see Queen Beatrix, Belgium and Germany are back. This time, I have not removed the two neighbors -though I don't think they should be there- but I have removed the Queen. If I make no blunder, she is no more Queen of the constituent country that Queen Elisabeth is Queen of England or Scotland ? Both are Queens of the whole state, but not of its constituent parts. Hard to check when unsourced assertions are allowed... Touriste (talk) 18:12, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1 http://dewey.info/ - not found
2 200 Релігія|Religion

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1036--Albedo (talk) 14:31, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Country code

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I've been trying to work out if the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code "NL" is properly assigned to Kingdom of the Netherlands (Q29999) or Netherlands (Q55). I started a discussion on w:en:Talk:ISO_3166-2:NL. Bovlb (talk) 23:02, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Bovlb: Denmark also have this kind of problem. Should Q756617 or Q35 have ISO-3166 code "DK"? This source says "the Kingdom of Denmark" has this code. But both of these are maybe "the Kingdom of Denmark"? Both has Margarete II as queen, both maybe has Rasmussen as prime minister? Since Greenland and Faroe Islands has a ISO 3166-code of their own, my opinion is that it is "Denmark" and not "the kingdom of Denmark" who has ISO 3166-code DK. If this kind of thinking can be applied to "Netherlands" too, I do not know. But that is how I am thinking. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 08:24, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Removed country code "NL" from this page. See w:en:Talk:ISO_3166-2:NL for explanation why it seems to refer to Q29999.--RV1971 (talk) 21:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the subreddit property from the page

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It's not official or relevant so it should probably go

EU membership

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Removed the EU membership. The Kingdom of the Netherlands is the correct EU member --FabC (talk) 18:37, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inception of the Netherlands

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It was stated that the inception date of the Netherlands is 15 dec 1954 with the charter for the kingdom. But this was a formal redesign of the kingdom, nog the inception date. I removed the inception date and cause. One could argue that the inception of the Netherlands was in 1581 with the 'Acte van Verlatinghe' or the international recognition in 1648 with the 'Vrede van Münster'.

Official website

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There are four values on official website (P856). But two of them seems to be different in content from the other two. Should we set https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/ (and possibly https://www.government.nl/ ) to have preferred rank? Ainali (talk) 19:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Population

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A population of 17622200 is given without a point in time. I have not been able to find a source for this number anywhere, it was added by a merge. I think it should be removed. (I'm unable to do this myself as this page is protected) Wmestrom (talk) 13:12, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unemployment Rate

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The preferred claim for unemployment rate has a point in time qualifier for September 31, which is a nonexistent date. Cwallingsfords (talk) 13:23, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

VAT rate should be corrected

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The VAT rate of the Netherlands is stated in this article as 21%, normal, and 6%, 'essential' items. This is wrong, it should be 21% and 9%. (This was changed from 6% per 1 januari 2019)

Unfortunately I can not edit the page because it is semi-protected.


Source (NL) for both rates in our national book of law: https://wetten.overheid.nl/jci1.3:c:BWBR0002629&hoofdstuk=II&afdeling=2&artikel=9&z=2024-01-01&g=2024-01-01

Source (EN) for both rates in the form of an informational webpage of the government: https://www.government.nl/topics/vat/vat-rates-and-exemptions

Source (NL) on a dedicated Wikipedia page about the VAT law: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_op_de_omzetbelasting_1968 Theoogie (talk) 09:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sovereign States

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Why is this item not considered as a sovereign state (Q3624078) ? PAC2 (talk) 05:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because it is a part of a sovereign state Kingdom of the Netherlands (Q29999). --Infovarius (talk) 14:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks PAC2 (talk) 16:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]