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Nobel Prize

Hey! I saw you as a member on the Guild of Copy-Editors and am wondering if you could help me out with an article I am working on, the Nobel Prize. A quite important article since, many link to it etc. I think the content is starting to get good but it really needs some copy-editing which I apparently isn't suited for. Do you have any chance to help out?

Still learning how this all works, but I will have a look and see what I can do AIRcorn (talk) 03:27, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Same here :) I saw your edits, great! Thanks for helping out, very kind :)

Cheers --Esuzu 10:30, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes indeed! You have done very good :) The article is a lot better now if you compare it to some days ago. Hopefully it will pass the GAN and then perhaps I will try to take it further :) Thanks for the help! --Esuzu 00:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		I, Esuzu, hereby give you, Aircorn, a barnstar for your hard work on the Nobel Prize article!

--Esuzu (talk • contribs) 18:03, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

re: your message

Hi Aircorn, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- Marek.69 ^talk 01:14, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

The Garage

Hi there. As per WP:MOSTM and WP:NC we do not use non-standard capitalisation, regardless of the preferences of the organisation involved. We use standard English capitalisation throughout wikipedia, unless the non-standard capitalisation is so widespread to become "standard", for instance, iPod. Hope this helps, Nouse4aname (talk) 09:37, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Flag of Japan/archive2

I saw your name at the copyeditors guild page. I was wondering if you would like to copyedit this article for FAC. The lead has already been done, so everything after that needs checking. Thanks for your help. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 03:18, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if I have the skills yet to copy-edit a FAC article. You will probably be better off getting the help of someone who has been editing Wikipedia longer than me AIRcorn (talk) 06:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Bacillus thuringiensis

Would you mind explaining why you made this edit? I can't immediately see a reason for removing the information. Cheers Smartse (talk) 12:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Smartse, no problem. My original aim was style. The way it was written was like a journal article and not very encyclopedic. The Zakharyan information was added back in the next day (compare here). I decided to have a look in the literature and Google scholar comes up with very little and the paper that does mention him also mentions others [1]. He is also mentioned in some books [2] and since I cannot read Russian I am willing to assume that he was the first to discover a plasmid. His 1979 paper seems to be the most cited and I think it could be used as a reference for the discovery of the plasmid, but I am not convinced of his significance to have his name in the article and three references. I did try to fit in the discovery of the plasmid in my second re-write, but in the end decided that it read best without it and the article did not lose much. I have no strong personal feelings either way as to its inclusion as long as it fits in with the flow of the article and is not over-represented. Thanks for asking and not just reverting AIRcorn (talk) 23:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining, it's was just that without a reason in the edit summary it seemed like a strange edit. I've been meaning to add this source and that makes no mention of Zakharyan so it looks like a good call. It looks like it would have some extra information regarding its early use as it was written in 1967. If you don't have access and want to add any info drop me an email at Special:EmailUser/smartse and I can send you a copy. Smartse (talk) 00:13, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, I could have written a better summary or at least used the talk page. Got your paper thanks, not sure it helps the Zakharyan situation as it is written before he seems to have done his work. I am writing a report at the moment about Bt and other pesticides as part of my study and will include any notable or relevant information from that. AIRcorn (talk) 00:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Copied from Smartses Talk Page

Hi AIRcorn. I found time for reply.Sorry for delay.First of all it is very strange to me ,that you "now is writing a report at the moment about Bt and other pesticides " have been use only Google Scholar as a source for evaluation of scholarly research contribution to the academic field for Zakharyan R.A. For this you should be alredy familiar with the subject or go to original articles published by prominent scientists. Articles : Zakharyan R.A.et al. Possible role of extrachromosomal DNA in the formation of the isecticidal endotoxin of Bacillus thuringiensis. Inst.Exp. Bol., Yerevan,USSR. Doklady Akademii Nauk Armyanskoi SSR (1976), 63(1), 42-47. CODEN: DANAAW ISSN: 0321-1339.Journal written in Russian. CAN 86:68301 CAPLUS (Copyright 2003 ACS). Zakharyan R.A. "Study of plasmids and specific endonucleases of Bacillus thuringiensis". Genet. Actinomitsetov i Batsill. Sb. Dokl. Sovet.- American Konf., Erevan (1977), 249-252. From: Ref.Zh., Biol.Khim. 1979,Abstr. No. 17Kh102. Journal written in Russian. CAN 91: 207298 AN 1979:607298 CAPLUS (Copyright 2003 ACS) and Zakharyan R.A et al.(1979). "Plasmid DNA from Bacillus thuringiensis".(USSR) Microbiologiya 48 (2): 226–229. ISSN 0026-3656. became available in international circulation to the world scientific community already in 1976-79. See example of citations in next selected articles,writed by prominent scientists and listed below,: Clayton C. Beegle and Takhashi Yamamoto (1992).Review. "INVITATION PAPER ( C. P. ALEXANDER FUND) : History of Bacillus thuringiensis berliner research and development". Canadian Entomologist 124: 587–616. doi:10.4039/Ent124587-4(1992). Dean D.H. ( October 1984).Review."Biochemical Genetics of the Bacterial Insect-Control Agent Bacillus thuringiensis:Basic Principles and Prospects for Genetic Engineering". Biotechnology and Genetic Engineering Reviews-vol.2,341-363. XU Jian, LIU Qin, YIN Xiang-dong and ZHU Shu-de (2006). "A review of recent development of Bacillus thuringiensis ICP genetically engineered microbes". Entomological Journal of East China 15 (1): 53–58. R. LANDEN, A. HEIERSON AND H. G. BOMAN, A Phage for Generalized Transduction in Bacillus thuringiensis and Mapping of Four Genes for Antibiotic Resistance .Journal of General Microbiology (198 l), 123,49-59. Printed in Great Britain . N. Shivarova 1 *, W. Förster 1 2, H.-E. Jacob 1 2, R. Grigorova 1 2 Microbiological implications of electric field effects VII. Stimulation of plasmid transformation of Bacillus cereus protoplasts by electric field pulses . Z Allg Mikrobiol.1983, v. 23(9),595-599. V.I. Miteva, N.I. Shivarova and R.T. Grigorova(1981)Transformation of Bacillus thuringiensis protoplasts by plasmid DNA. FEMS Microbiology Letters 12 (1981) 253-256 253. KAZUNORI ABE, ROBERT M. FAUST , LEE A. BULLA, JR.t ,"Plasmid Deoxyribonucleic Acid in Strains of Bacillus sphaericus and in Bacillus moritai’ "JOURNAL OF INVERTEBRATE PATHOLOGY 41,328-335(1983). Karabekov B.P. et al.1982. Transmissible genetic factors in Bac. thuringiensis:reasons for difference in some biochemical properties in wild type strains of Bac. thuringiensis var. gallerea. Genetika(USSR) 18,1069-68. Ambartsumian N.S. et al.1987 "Comparative characterisation of extrachromosomal DNA of Bac.thuringiensis serotype H-14 strains.Microbiologiya (USSR) 56,243-48. Zakharyan's articles are referenced ("not in some books"- as you presented to Smartse), but , as you found in GOOGLE-books, referenced by world recognised scienists with outstanding contributions in science, including 6 what I have known before In :"Fermentation process development of industrial organisms", 1989, ISBN 0-8247-7917-7 . Edited by Justin O. Neway. Marcel Dekker INC. N.Y.(Zakharyan R.A. et al.1979). In :"Advances in microbial control of insect pests", 2003, ISBN 0-306-47491-3. Edited by R. K. Upadhyay.Kluver Academy Plenum Publisher.N.Y. ( Zakharyan R.A. 1976). In :Pathogens of invertebrates: application in biological control and ...‎ - Page 159 Thomas Clement Cheng, Society for Invertebrate Pathology. Meeting - Science - 1984 - 278 pages,(Zakharyan R.A.et al. 1976,They later isolated three plasmids from B. thuringiensis var. caucasicus.Zakharyan et al. , 1979). In :Revista biología, Volumes 12-14‎ - Page 84 Universidad de La Habana. Facultad de Biología - Science,El primer trabajo que demuestra la presencia de plásmidos en Bacillus Thuringiensis data de 1976 (Zakharyan 1976) ya partir de ahí, ... In: Bioprocess engineering: the first generation‎ - Page 290 Tarun K. Ghose - Science - 1989 - 389 pages.(Zakharyan R.A.et al. 1976) In: The Molecular biology of the bacilli, Volume 2 ‎David A. Dubnau - Science - 1985 - 259 pages(Zakharyan R.A.et al. 1976,1979) . In 2003 Zakharyan's 1976 paper was referenced in book edited by R.K. Upadhyay(see above). In 2006 Zakharyan"s 1976 paper was referenced in Review : Entomological Journal of East CHINA:XU Jian, LIU Qin, YIN Xiang-dong and ZHU Shu-de (2006). "A review of recent development of Bacillus thuringiensis ICP genetically engineered microbes". Entomological Journal of East China 15 (1): 53–58.. AIRcorn, Now read what are saying in scientific press scientist with the outstanding contribution in the BT, Dean D.H. , Clayton C. Beegle , Takhashi Yamamoto in their review articles about Zakharyan's 1976,1979 work and discovery (see above):exact the words and phrase that you have removed from text and articles from references:"Zakharyan R. A.(1976,1979) first reported the presence of plasmids in B.thuringiensis and suggested involvement of the plasmids in endospore/crystal formation,also described the presence of large plasmid in Cry+ variant of B.thuringiensis."; and also look Thomas Clement Chang statement:"the first study suggesting that plasmids play role in coding for the biosynthesis was Zakharyan et al. 1976.They later isolated three plasmids from Bt......Zakharyan et al.1979" also XU Jian's et al. article(2006)(Zakharyan R.A. 1976); and other authors. Zakharyan's name has been presented among names of 26 scientists evalueted with landmark work in Bt. since 1901( I.S.Ishiwata's discovery). So,the information that you have and provided to Smartse" that information to you comes up very little and that paper(you presented just only one, Landen R et al.) does mention him (Zakharyan) also mentions others" and other statements are irrelevant, and the statement mentionet by you to Smartse that"His 1979 paper seems to be the most cited" and only "can be used as a reference" also irrelevant and I am sure because of lack of good information. The discovery of plasmids in Bt and experimental evidence suggested involvement of the plasmids in endospore /crystal formation by Zakharyan R.A. was followed by intensive research to characterise plasmids and determine their role in Bt-endotoxin production, followed by growing Bt -recombinant technology and industry.In this way remarkable and outstanding work was done by J. Gonsales ,H.E.Schnepf and H.R.Whiteley. And one more,articles in Wikipedia to be more encyclopedic should include names and even photo of#1 contributors in the field.I am looking forward to see new version of your article asap.Erkad,talk.

Hi Erkad. Thanks for replying. It was bad form of me not to allow you more time to respond to my question before changing the article and I apologise for that. As I said in my reply to Smartse above my original intention was to just fix the style. I feel my first edit did not remove any of the information, just Zakharyans name and merged the two sentences together.

From

"Zakharyan R.A et al. (1976,1977,1979) first reported the presence of plasmids in B. thuringiensis and suggested involvement of the plasmids in endospore/crystal formation. They also described the presence of large plasmid in the Cry+ variant of B. thuringiensis."

To

"In 1976, the presence of a plasmid that was suggested to be involved in the endospore or crystal formation was found in a strain of B. thuringiensis."

The or should be an and, but it was a sincere attempt to improve the readability of the paragraph. The reasons I later deleted the entire sentence are outlined above to Smartse. Also as I stated above I was willing to accept Zakharyan as the first to discover the plasmid. There is this and this. However, I am surprised that their are not more cites of his work in journals. I will insert the sentence I had above back into the article and use Zakharyans name. It would read better if we had a first (which I think is Robert, but that would be original research). I am still not convinced that he is notable enough to have his name in there, but it is probably better to have too much information than not enough, and the Bt article is hardly overflowing with info. Anyway have a look and tell me what you think. Also it might be more useful to add any further discussions to the talk page. I should have done that to start with. Regards AIRcorn (talk) 07:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi AIRcorn, In article Bt I did small change 1979 to 1976.Thank's for prompt answer.Erkad,talk.

Hi AIRcorn,to be consistent in Bt. "Discovery and Study" please consider, that the enormous progress in Bt -recombinant technology followed by today's Bt.-industry was a result of a discovery of plasmids and a large one identified in Cry+ strain with evidence suggesting that crystal protein is specified by plasmid DNA (Zakharyan 1976,1979) , discovery that a large plasmid has been associated with crystal protein production( Gonzales JM et al. 1981. Correlation between specific plasmids and endotoxin production in Bt. Plasmid 5,351-365.), and recombinant technology successfuly was applied for cloning crystal toxin gene (Schnepf H.E. and Whiteley H.R. 1981. Cloning and expression of the Bt. crystal protein gene in E.coli. Proc.Natl.Acad. Sci. USA 78,2893-2897.). Facts speak for themselves.Cheers Erkad (talk).tures|unsigned]] comment added by Erkad (talk •

Nobel Prize, again!

Hey Aircorn!

As you saw the FA nomination of the Nobel Prize failed, much thanks to the pictures I think. But also because of the referencing I believe. I have been trying to fix some references, but there is a lot that needs to be done. I found out a way to replace many of the sources from the nobelprize.org page; this book seems to contain most of the info that we are referenced from the nobelprize.org site. Do you have time to help me re-reference those parts? --Esuzu (talk • contribs) 19:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I will do what I can with the referencing. I had a go at the lead the other day, but it is very time consuming. To get FA I think we will need to remove the references to Encyclopaedia Britannica as well as most of the ones to nobelprize.org. We should be able to leave the one to Lemmel as it is written by someone on behalf of the Nobel Foundation and the Nobel Lectures plus some that can only (or best) be confirmed by linking to that site. There are multiple references for some sentences where we could simply remove one or two that are not notable. We should probably use templates to keep the format consistent. Should be fun AIRcorn (talk) 00:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Currently there are several templates used for citing books. We should use only one of them. Will try to look into which one is best.

Cheers! --Esuzu (talk • contribs) 15:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

How about using this template for citing books: "" (you have to look when you edit it, don't know how to show just the code). It links back to the book list as well which is nice imo. --Esuzu (talk • contribs) 15:37, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

• Update: I have fixed all problems I can see now and there is only some image issues left which I am trying to get help with atm. Hopefully they will be fixed until next week and then I will nominate it to FA again. If you have time to help out on the nomination page I'd appreciate it :) I'll contact you again before nominating. Cheers! --Esuzu (talk • contribs) 18:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Hopefully I will nominate the article tomorrow or the day after! Help if you have time :) --Esuzu (talk • contribs) 21:54, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry have been pretty busy with real life recently. I am going away hiking during Easter in a couple of days so won't be any help then. If I get time before leaving I will have a look at some of the remaining references that cite the Nobel website. AIRcorn (talk) 00:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Enjoy your hike! --Esuzu (talk • contribs) 18:35, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Game Development

{{helpme}} Hi. There appears to be some vandalism going on at the game development article by a group of anonymous users. They keep inserting the same information so it could just be the same person. What would the best course of action would be if this continues. AIRcorn (talk) 02:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Page protection.  fetchcomms☛ 02:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

...or, if urgent, Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism.

In this specific case, I will ask someone to look at it, and let you know the outcome.  Chzz  ►  02:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks AIRcorn (talk) 02:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protected for 3 months, [log]. Thanks for the shout.  Chzz  ►  03:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Amy Sedaris

{{help me}}

Hi again. Am having a problem with an anonymous IP at the Amy Sedaris page. They keep adding the same information and even though it is referenced, the references do not appear viable. Getting close to WP:3RR, but not quite overstepping it yet. Has added the same stuff 14 times since the 7th of March and has been reverted by five different editors. I moved the discussion to the Talk Page on the 12th and have had no response yet from the IP, although another editor has responded. They have been asked to discuss it at their talk page and I have recently started warning them.

My question is can I report them for Vandelism (although there edits themselves are not vandalism the repeated insertion of them might be), keep warning them (am I using the correct templates), report for edit waring, ask for page protection or just keep reverting their edits. Still relatively new at this and want to make sure I follow they correct procedure. Regards AIRcorn (talk) 22:51, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

You should form a consensus, and if the IP adds material in repeatedly contrary to that consensus, it can be considered disruptive. You should leave a note to them about edit warring, and if they do not respond on their talk page, try another form of dispute resolution.  fetchcomms☛ 23:08, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

As it seems like a potential BLP violation, I would keep it removed unless better sources are found.  fetchcomms☛ 23:10, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

USS Franklin D. Roosevelt

I saw and admired your detailed list of CO's, though I'm among those who aren't convinced it belongs in the article. (I'm NOT the guy who took it out, though.) You've got lots of detail there, and I'm wondering where you got it. The FDR has a couple of "alumni" sites, and if they don't already have your list, I'll bet they'd like to have it. I spent a week or so on the FDR in 1964, therefore my interest in the article. Lou Sander (talk) 12:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Lou. Actually I came across them when I was patrolling recent changes. I was going to revert but decided there might be some useful information there so I just reformatted them. To be honest I really know nothing about that article and have no issue with them being removed. An anonymous IP added them User talk:173.79.110.8 so you may want to ask him/her where they came from. These sources were supplied with the original edit if they help Sources: USS Franklin D. Roosevelt CVB/CVA/CV-42 Reunion (http://www.ussfdrcv42reunion.com); Ron Reeves & Wolfgang Hechler (REALLY FROM THIS WEBSITE WHICH HAS ALL THIS INFO: <http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/42co.htm> Regards AIRcorn (talk) 23:47, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Apostles of Linnaeus copyedit

Hey Aircorn! I recently created an article, Apostles of Linnaeus that I plan to nominate for GA as soon as possible. Before that I think some copyediting would be needed. Since you made a great work on the Nobel Prize article I wondered if you would like to help me out with this again? Cheers, Esuzu (talk • contribs) 13:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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Glofish

Woops, you are absolutely correct! Sorry. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

No bother AIRcorn (talk) 23:45, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

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GMT

Nice work on the article, if (as I think it is) it is mostly new content, rather than copied from elsewhere, we should nominate it for DYK. I'll try to add a few more references to it today. Smartse (talk) 09:58, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Cheers. Thanks for the copy edit. I have some extra sources here if you are looking to insert some more information. I was going to have a play with them tomorrow, but feel free to use them now. Everything is new apart from the Flavr Savr and Fish tomato info. Not sure what the hook would be, maybe something general. AIRcorn (talk) 11:48, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Added info about plant vaccines, the others sources weren't much use. Might start developing an article on Genetically modified tobacco next. It is not mentioned in the tobacco article or any other one that I can see. One of the most important GM products. AIRcorn (talk) 12:32, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

GeeJo beat us to it on the nomination, see here for the hook. I've added a bit more about using GM in research - we could add a lot more if we wanted to... Smartse (talk) 15:25, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Genetically modified tomato

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Link

Hi Aircorn,

Wikilinks are case-sensitive, apart from the first letter and a few other little quirks. You wanted Stanley Cohen (biochemist), not Stanley Cohen (Biochemist).

Cheers, Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 11:40, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Just removed the square brackets to further tidy it up. AIRcorn (talk) 22:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, should have checked that :-/ Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 05:51, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

GM potatoes

Hi Aircorn, I just came across Árpád_Pusztai#GM_potato_controversy - it was my understanding that this study was discredited, but the article makes no mention of it, do you know of any sources we can use to balance it? Smartse (talk) 11:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the really late reply. Am on holiday and this is the first real chance to check wikipedia. Will be able to have a look properly in a couple of days whan I get home if it is still a problem. I think the royal society released something saying Puztais conclusions where flawed. AIRcorn (talk) 17:14, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

No worries, I've been away myself for a while, hope you had a good holiday. That source looks perfect, I'll try to fix it up this week sometime. Thanks for finding it! Smartse (talk) 12:52, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Looking at that article I would say it needs information removed not added. I left my thoughts on the discussion page. AIRcorn (talk) 20:21, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Skype

You might note that at least one of your recent edits also introduced some extraneous text around some numerical characters. This may be due to a combination of your browser and Skype trying to identify and highlight telephone numbers. Thank you. This edit in particular --Rumping (talk) 14:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought I got them all. AIRcorn (talk) 21:32, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

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Blue rose

Hello. You recently added a citation to a book by Alphascript Publishing to this article. Unfortunately, this is not a reliable source as the text derives entirely from Wikipedia; this is a circular reference. See WP:ALPHASCRIPT. I've only removed the reference, not the text it was referencing. A lot of similar references have been removed; many other editors have also been duped by these sources.

Another source to be wary of is the "Webster's Quotations, Facts and Phrases" series published by Icon Group International as their books are computer-generated, with most of the text copied from Wikipedia (most entries have [WP] by them to indicate this, see e.g. [4]). Fences&Windows 22:22, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I did not even think of that. Will keep an eye out for it from now on. AIRcorn (talk) 00:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Blue Roses "in contemporary culture"

Hi Aircorn. I just wanted to leave a message on your talk page so you don't always have to go to mine in reference to the blue roses article. I said in my talk page that the Simpsons episode featuring blue roses is in line with the rest of the article. I also said that I would try to find a reference, but I unfortunately could find none. None of the reviews I found mentioned the roses, and a Google search provided mostly message forums!-RHM22 (talk) 17:15, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, I am not inconvenienced answering on your talk page, I currently have it watched and will continue to do so until we finish chatting. It also helps to keep all the information on one page so if someone else is interested it is easier to follow. AIRcorn (talk) 11:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good to me.-RHM22 (talk) 13:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Richie McCaw

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Lympha

Thanks for the nomination, where I've provided some links to help you verify. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi

I read your comment. You are right. I ll keep that in mind.AKY 13:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amityadavigib (talk • contribs)

CIVIC

Hi Aircorn. I removed the content on the page and posted it in my sandbox because there's someone that is affiliated with the organization that felt the org was misrepresented through the article. I removed it entirely so she doesn't feel uncomfortable with it being up. user:SoAuthentic SoAuthentic 00:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SoAuthentic (talk • contribs)

You might run into a problem with removing the content. My understanding is that once something is contributed to Wikipedia you give up all right to it (I think it is more technical than that, but it amounts to the same thing). Basically anyone can edit it, re-use it on other websites and it cannot be revoked. As far as I know the only way to remove all the content from an article is to put it up for deletion. I don't think you will have much luck with that however as someone from the organisation feeling misrepresented is not a very good reason, but feel free to try. Your best bet would be to try and improve the article so it does not misrepresent the organisation. By the way, in case you haven't noticed I have restored the article (see WP:BLANK). AIRcorn (talk) 01:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Cow Milk Moral or Sin ? by Naresh Sonee writer of Brahmand Pujan http://vegetarians-cows.blogspot.com/2008/01/drinking-milk-moral-or-sin.html

APPEAL TO YOU - RESCUE [BRAHMAN PUJAN] , [UNIVERSAL PRAYERS] . written by [Naresh Sonee] On wikipedia , These above two pages are far older than the present article [Brahman] References of above titles are also available on New York site - http://www.printsasia.com/BookDetails.aspx?Id=445813482 Meanwhile, Can your good selves in Wiki Project Indian Community re-create a precise pages on [Naresh Sonee] & his book [Brahmand Pujan] – [Brahmaand Pujan] . However, Sonee is the writer of this book [Brahmand Pujan] written in 1999 . registered with Government of India- HRRD. Details of the registration is provided here on http://brhmaandpujanbook.tripod.com/ . More than sufficient, news and reviews are there on http://brhmaandpujan-news-reviews.tripod.com/ Since 5-6 yrs, for one or the other reason pages of [Naresh Sonee] & [Brahmand Pujan] are faced by communal bias from outside India so these articles over and again get deleted here in Wikipedia for minor reasons. However, many hits of - Naresh Sonee reflects on google search engine also. So, I request Wiki Indian community to kindly come forward and generously help these two pages to grow, as I am fed up to fight my case alone here [left] and moved out long back. Meanwhile, such an important info/issue on ‘Indian literature’ which adds & spell ‘new meaning /dimension’ to Brahman -should it stay lost else ignored? Your community panel has to judge at last. Myself, will not be on Wikipedia, for the same i apologise, but- pls. help these two pages to get reinstalled, reap, sow and grow, if you too feel so, I appeal to do this munificent favour. Regards- Dralansun (talk)