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Unless this template is moved to userspace and substed in all cases, it and all it tags should be deleted. See also Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Fcb981.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 20:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I was under the impression that you can't make a template within a user space. I'v tried and it doesn't behave like a template, it behaves like a article. -Fcb981 02:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm confused, his new license says you must reprint the GFDL with the images and add no legal restrictions to them. That is the very spirit of copyleft, what am I missing? -Nard 21:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
He must not use a non-substed template for his licensing, and if he uses a substed one, it must not be in template space.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why? -Nard 01:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please see the separate areas below where I've broken these apart.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 10:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In each of those first two users' cases vs. your case, two wrongs do not make a right; I intend to at least discuss those with User:Fir0002 and Luc Viatour, whereas Ram-Man appears to be doing it correctly.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 10:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
<very heavy sarcasm> Oh, good, I'm glad you'll discuss it with them. I'd hate to think I was the only one getting hosed for this. </very heavy sarcasm> -Fcb981 15:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken, please see Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Fir0002 and Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Lviatour.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
He must not use a non-substed template for his licensing...   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why? -Nard 01:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The reasoning that has been used in past deletion request discussions is that if personal templates are used but not substed, licensing can change for a file without the change being reflected in the file's history, an unacceptable situation.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 10:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This user-specific template incorporates a standard license template {{GFDL-self}}. Per Commons:User-specific galleries, templates and categories policy#Regarding licenses, 'if the user-specific template incorporates a standard license template, the user-specific template must be subst:ed in use.'   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
... and if he uses a substed one, it must not be in template space.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why? -Nard 01:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
User-specific templates are supposed to be in user space, like User:Ram-Man/StandardSingleLicense, User:Jeff G./Massaged photo, User:Jeff G./Massaged image, User:Jeff G./Massaged file, and User:Jeff G./sig which only have restrictions, requests, photos, and a sig, not licenses.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 10:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Per Commons:User-specific galleries, templates and categories policy#Templates, 'Users are welcome to create user-specific templates in order to standardise the information they produce on their image pages. Such templates must exist as user subpages rather than in the template namespace, e.g. "User:Example/Template" or "User:Example/Info".'   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I reflected the fact that the license changed at User:Fcb981/attribution If people downloaded the file previous to the re-license they are bounded by the rules as they were at that time. Therefor if I see any of these photos outside wiki It had better ether be creative commons or GDFL. I don't intend to re-license again. There are plenty more users doing this and as you havent linked to any official policy stating that this is not OK i wil assume that a policy does not exist. You can see my vote above. Also, this is unrelated to the previous deletion nom, that was a nom to delete my files based on copy-vio, this is to delete a template. I think your justification for your delete vote on that withdrawn nomination is nonsense. -Fcb981 15:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I just haven't had time to find justifications for my positions above, but they will be found eventually. My previous Keep vote on the other request was based on someone else's examination of your licensing. Once I had the time to look at your licensing for myself, I couldn't agree.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 19:20, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fine. -Fcb981 17:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I found one justification. Please see Commons:Village pump/Archive/2007Feb#User-specific_licenses_and_categories, in which the use and content requirements are spelled out: user-specific licenses must be substed and must not "impose any further restrictions on use" or "do funky things with licensing". Also, please see Commons:User-specific galleries, templates and categories policy in general and its specific sections cited above.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion requests are not the appropriate place to discuss moves to user space. See also the above comment by Wsiegmund. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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