User talk:Helgi-S

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категории

Зачем вы создаёте в массовом порядке категории типа April 2016 Russia photographs? Вам известно, что уже существует категория April 2016 in Russia (и аналогичные), которая практически про то же самое? Вы ваши массовые создания обговорили хотя бы с одним опытным участником Викисклада, дабы был консенсус, что такие категории действительно здесь нужны? --A.Savin 16:58, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Потому что, кроме фотографий, на складе могут быть (и есть) и прочие изображения, а также аудио-, видеофайлы, документы всевозможных форматов и тому подобное. А наличие навигационных шаблонов типа «Russiaphotomonthyear» и аналогичных (коих немало для всевозможных стран, тем и временных промежутков) свидетельствует о том, что такие категории никого не удивляют, тем более опытных участников Викисклада. Например, загруженный Вами файл File:Balashikha-station.jpg уже был в категории Photographs taken on 2009-07-27, а не в 2009-07-27. Я не выдумываю новые темы, лишь добавляю категории уже существующих типов. --Helgi-S (talk) 17:41, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Paris

Please don't move all images from Category:Paris to France photographs taken on ... ! If you want, you can copy. Thanks!--Paris 16 (talk) 23:45, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

2 Paris 16: Please, see COM:OVERCAT. All this files already was in Category:January 2017 in Paris (subcategory of Category:Paris). Hence, Category:Paris is excessive and unnecessary for this files. -- Helgi-S (talk) 17:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

They need a other category like Category:Restaurants in Paris, Category:Hotels in Paris... not only Category:January 2017 in Paris. So you can move them to Category:Media of Paris needing categories.--Paris 16 (talk) 00:27, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Of course, I agree. Other category, not Category:Paris. I can move. And you can move too. Just do it --Helgi-S (talk) 14:33, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

United States photographs category

English: Out of curiosity, why are you creating country day categories like Category:United States photographs taken on 2017-01-17? It seems like it is too specific of a categories. Also, most of those images are in a category that will eventually also get to the country specific locations. By the look of your talk page, it looks like I am not the wonder this. I feel like this is something that should have been brought up on one of the large discussion pages (Commons:Village pump/Proposals) before you began doing this, so everyone could have input.Elisfkc (talk) 20:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Русский: Из любопытства, почему вы создаете страна день категорий, таких как Category:United States photographs taken on 2017-01-17? Похоже, что это слишком специфичного категорий. Кроме того, большинство из этих изображений в категории, которая в конечном итоге также получить страновых конкретных местах. Судя по внешнему виду вашей странице обсуждения, это выглядит как я не удивительно, что это. Я чувствую, что это то, что должно было быть воспитан на одном из крупных дискуссионных страниц (Commons:Village pump/Proposals), прежде чем вы начали делать это, так что каждый может иметь вход. Transated с Google Translate Elisfkc (talk) 20:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

2 Elisfkc. Sometimes, e.g. when image have no cats, or only "day photos" cat (e.g. from EXIF), or "verysmallville" cat, etc., this "country day photos" cat is simple but very useful. Image will get whole set of country/time parental cats with smart navigation. Note: all of them, including "country day photos" cat, is standard and created by templates (like {{USA photographs taken on navbox}}). Nothing is mine. --Helgi-S (talk) 14:27, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

That template was created in July 2016. You seem to be the only one to use it and just because a template exists does not mean it has to or should be used. It seems like it would be more useful to have placed those images in existing categories rather than making your own specific subcategories. Elisfkc (talk) 15:47, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

2 Elisfkc. There are 125 "United States photographs taken on ..." categories. I created 43 of them. There are 388 "Germany photographs taken on ..." categories. I created 34. What about other countries? Enough? My "own specific subcategories"? There are no such. --Helgi-S (talk) 17:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

From what I see, most of those categories are on days when there are over 200 pictures. You are doing it for every day, even when there are less than 100. That's my problem with what you are doing. Elisfkc (talk) 17:06, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

2 Elisfkc. The only problem is too few files in the categories? This is fixable . A lot of uploaded images with EXIF dates have no "day photos" category. --Helgi-S (talk) 17:32, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

EXIF days are not always right. I still think this is something that needs to be discussed project wide. Elisfkc (talk) 17:34, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

I agree, this is something that needs further discussion. Please stop adding these categories until there is consensus to do so. Currently, the widely used {{Taken on}} template automatically categorizes into Category:Photographs taken on XXXX-XX-XX. Adding Category:Photographs taken on XXXX-XX-XX in YYYYYYYY thus places those photos in both the main category and its subcategory, which should generally be avoided. Additionally, the daily categories are intended to be a sort of 'snapshot of the world' as it existed on a given day. Adding country categories obfuscates that without adding any useful detail. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

2 Pi.1415926535. Adding Category:Photographs taken on XXXX-XX-XX in YYYYYYYY, I added 'cat=no' in {{Taken on}} or removed this template. It is not a problem. Alas, 'snapshot of the world' sometimes looks like trash bin. It was the original cause of my edits. --Helgi-S (talk) 04:06, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

But what you see as "trash bin", many others, including myself, see as a great example of the snapshot of the world, because they are images from all over. The more constructive thing for you to do would be to work on categories that have been marked as requiring diffusion, rather than working on Photographs taken on ___-__-__ categories. Elisfkc (talk) 18:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

@Elisfkc and Pi.1415926535: You already have 'snapshot of the world' (with subcategories or not). A lot of remarkable categories have subcategories. As experienced editor, you may use tools like CatScan for obtaining lists or galleries of all images, if you need. But some editors (including myself) interested in 'snapshot of the country'. It is not prohibited. And thank you for the tip about categories requiring diffusion. --Helgi-S (talk) 15:14, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

You have two extremely experienced editors, one an administrator, telling you to stop doing this. That means that you need to stop, and get consensus from other editors before you continue. Consider this your official warning. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:43, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: I stopped. No such category was created. --Helgi-S (talk) 18:22, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Since you did not make a proposal, I have made one on Commons:Village pump/Proposals to empty these categories. Elisfkc (talk) 17:55, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

COM:Village pump/Proposals/Archive/2017/02#Closing: 12  Support, 12  Oppose) for the proposal. --Helgi-S (talk) 19:24, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Moving photographs

Hello! Thanks for moving my photographs of Dülmen. Just for your information: My bot will move all these photographs within the next days/weeks. May be it's easier for you. Hopefully all missing categories like 2017 in North Rhine-Westphalia by month or January 2017 in Germany by state will be created by a bot within the next days too. --XRay ^talk 17:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

OK. Quality images, indeed. I click links like this for comfort seeing. --Helgi-S (talk) 18:29, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

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