Commons:Deletion requests/File:Fog Bowl 1988.jpg: Difference between revisions

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File:Fog_Bowl_1988.jpg

"Image courtesy of NFL.com" Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:24, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Comment: See the licensing template, which specifically addresses "courtesy of" images hosted on National Weather Service servers, stating in part:

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"However, the NWS sites also host non-NWS images which have been submitted by individuals: these are generally shown as "Courtesy of ...". Such images have explicitly been released to the public domain by the copyright owner as part of the upload process...The information on government servers are in the public domain, unless specifically annotated otherwise..."

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Thus, this image became public domain once it was hosted on National Weather Service servers without a specific copyright notice. An example of images hosted on National Weather Service servers that have their copyright held can be found here, with the annotation shown. The page hosting this image has no specific copyright annotation, only the "courtesy of" tag referred to in the licensing template. Ks0stm ^(T•C•G) 04:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• OK I withdraw then. Magog the Ogre (talk) 05:04, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

 Keep per Ks0stm. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 17:12, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

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Kept.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 21:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

File:Fog Bowl 1988.jpg

The last deletion request of this file in December 2010 was withdrawn on the basis of the wording of the {{PD-NWS}} template, which we now know to be flawed. (See this recent DR for details.)

But this image in particular is credited by the NWS to NFL.com. The original image can be found here (you might need to click/swipe through to image 20/20 to find it.)

Unsurprisingly, the NFL's copyright policy is long, detailed, and restrictive. The version in force at the time this file was uploaded to Commons is archived here and says (among very many other things):

"We own or license all copyright rights in the text, images, photographs, video, audio, graphics, user interface, and other content provided on the Services, and the selection, coordination, and arrangement of such content (whether by us or by you), to the full extent provided under the copyright laws of the United States and other countries. Except as expressly provided in this Agreement, you are prohibited from copying, reproducing, modifying, distributing, displaying, performing or transmitting any of the contents of the Services for any purposes, and nothing otherwise stated or implied in the Services confers on you any license or right to do so." (emphasis mine)

Without any evidence of permission where the NFL transferred their copyright of this photo into the public domain, we can't keep this file. Rlandmann (talk) 13:06, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

• Keep, (1) This is not an NFL photo. Per NFL.com, this is a photograph by the Associated Press. So the NFL.com copyright rules do not apply, meaning the entire deletion reasoning does not even apply to this image. (2) According to the archived disclaimer at the bottom of the webpage where this image originates, NWS states, “ The information on government servers are in the public domain, unless specifically annotated otherwise.” For the “unless specifically annotated otherwise” part: if/when copyrighted work is provided to the NWS, they appropriately make it known that it is copyrighted (example, see the “Tornado Photos” tab of this NWS webpage). In short, this is a public domain photograph and the previous deletion request regarding {{PD-NWS}} should be upheld. WeatherWriter (talk) 14:55, 11 August 2024 (UTC)