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== Zimbabwe Constituency Map == |
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Hello! I think you've done amazing work on the [[:File:Zimbabwe election map 2018.svg|Zimbabwe Constituency Map for the 2018]] elections. It is amazing. I was wondering whether you had any interest in collaborating to produce an updated version for the 2023 boundaries, which have changed slightly from 2018? I guess what I had in mind were sort of three blank maps of Zimbabwe, one showing the Provinces, another showing the Districts and a third with the National Assembly boundaries, which could be saved on Wikipedia as templates, but which others could use in the future for similar tasks. Ideally it would be something that someone with very little knowledge of something like Inkscape could click on a Province/District/Constituency and simply change the colour to what it needs to be. My artistic abilities are very limited and it is not something I could create from scratch so I'd need to look to other, more experienced users to help in this regard. There is a large PDF file with the boundaries available [https://www.zec.org.zw/download/2022-national-and-provincial-delimitation-maps/ here] but annoyingly they all overlap, which makes it a bit more of a challenge to read. Let me know what you think of this idea... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:39, 27 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:Hello [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]], I would very much like to make a new map showing the results of the 2023 election, but I could not find any detailed results yet. But a clickable map is beyond my capabilities (and my time budget). Thank you for the link but I think that the constituency boundaries have not changed since the last election or has there be a new delimitation? I would therefore simply use the old map and recolorize it new. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 15:01, 27 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::Hi Forfar, Thanks for the fast reply! There was a new delimitation which resulted in a bit of moving around with the Constituency boundaries so they have changed slightly. |
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::I don't think I explained what I meant by clickable very well. I did not mean interactive at all. There is no need for anything that complicated. All I meant was a blank (but 2023 updated) version of the map you have already created. In fact, what I wanted the map to be able to do, I have realised yours already does - so ignore what I've written before. Is it possible for you to adapt your map that exists already to show the [[:File:2023 Zimbabwean presidential election by provinces.svg|Provinces]] in a way that is neater than my bad tracing attempt, and also a third map that shows simply the district boundaries [https://elections.cite.org.zw/live-result as seen here] without the names on it? I don't think I've explained myself very well - but I am just looking for blank maps that show the boundaries clearly, that someone could later download to Inkscape and colour in the results as they come in.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:51, 27 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Hello [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]], unfortunately I am unable to access the [https://www.zec.org.zw/download/2022-national-and-provincial-delimitation-maps/ link with the pdf]. I always get a timeout. Have you downloaded the pdf? If so, could you please upload it to the Commons so that I can access it for creating a map? You can delete it afterwards. I could create a district map. I found a suitable template from 2018. But in this template many urban areas (Beitbridge Urban, Hwange Urban, Shurugwi Town, Gwanda Urban, Kwekwe, etc.) are drawn as if they were not part of their districts. Is this correct? Should I integrate them into the districts and make the map ais [https://elections.cite.org.zw/home here]? --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 22:28, 27 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::It does seem the website has been having some issues. I've found the same maps [https://www.veritaszim.net/sites/veritas_d/files/2022-23-National-and-Provincial-delimitation-maps.pdf here also]. This document has the official districts on it also, so that should answer your question above about the urban areas and where they truly belong. Once again - thank you thank you thank you! [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:23, 28 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::Hello [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]], thank yo very much for this high quality map. I will try my best but it will take a little bit of time ... But I also need the constituency results (the party affiliation of the winners). Do you know a reliable source for this? --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 19:12, 28 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::The final results are still being tabulated/collated, though [https://elections.cite.org.zw/live-result/house-of-assembly this website] has quite an accurate reflection of what we know already (with a couple missing). If you're able to make a blank map in the meantime to upload to the Commons as a resource for people to use for other demonstrative purposes, not just the 2023 election, I know many people would be very grateful. I would love, in time, to use such a blank map to update the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Zimbabwean_parliamentary_constituencies Zimbabwean Constituency page] to look more like the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_constituencies_in_the_East_of_England British Constituency] page with all the related data and information. Also, if you made just one of the whole of Zimbabwe, I'd be happy to adapt it to create SVG files of the Provinces broken down by Constituency such as in [[:File:Manicaland-constituency bounderies2008.gif|this image]]. [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:34, 29 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::Hello [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]], I made a draft constituency map but at the moment I can only count 209 constituencies. It would be very helpful to have an up-to-date list of the constituencies. Then I could find and search for the missing one. Do you know a source? --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 16:31, 29 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::@[[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]]: I have made a first draft (preliminary a pdf, colors can be changed): [[:File:Zimbabwe constituency map 2023.pdf]]. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 00:29, 30 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::That looks so great. I don't know how you manage that! Just a thought - but feel free to disagree - when you convert to SVG, maybe have the outlines and numbers in black, with the constituencies in white? I'm just conscious that since the last election, the Opposition will be in Yellow so white numbers might not show very clearly. Just a thought. Alternatively, we could go down the line of white borders with the unknown stats in grey as per the [[:Image:ElectoralCollege2024.svg|US template]]? [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:26, 30 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::@[[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]]: I made a b&w version [[:File:Zimbabwe constituency map 2023 v1.png|here]] – what do you think? It is png map suitable for an article on the constituencies. If one wants to make maps showing election results the pdf file should be used as a starting point, becauses this ensures the highest possible resolution. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 10:38, 30 August 2023 (UTC)<br>... [[File:Zimbabwe constituency map 2023 v1.svg|here]] also the (large) SVG file ... |
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::::::::::::::I think that's amazing. And the SVG version is brilliant to have. That really makes life so easy! Would you be against me uploading a second version that doesn't have the names of the constituencies included in the image file also? I think in the coming months it will prove useful to have both. Though I understand if you want to do it so that the upload history reflects your username. [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:26, 31 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::@[[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]], ok I will do this. I also started a [[:File:Zimbabwe election map 2023.svg|map with the preliminary results]]. If you detect any errors, please notify me. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 10:33, 31 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::That looks great so far, though the CCC colour is yellow now - #ffcc00ff. The red of the MDC in the past is no more.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:59, 31 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::That's a fair point. I corrected it. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 11:51, 31 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::I bring you fresh data! They're being weirdly organised this election, which I'm not used to...... [[:File:Zimbabwe 2023 Harmonised Elections National Assembly Results Maps.pdf|National Assembly]] and [[:File:Zimbabwe 2023 Harmonised Elections Presidential Results Maps.pdf|Presidential Results]]. I hope this helps! [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:11, 31 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::[[:File:Zimbabwe 2023 Presidential Results.svg|I have adapted your map for the Presidential results]]. I have credited you as the author as all I did was change colours.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::I have also made this map [[:File:Zimbabwe Proportional Representation Results 2023.svg|for Proportional Results]]. I don't know if you want to make a map to include it in the corner alongside constituency results like in German elections? I leave such a decision to your best tastes. [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:27, 1 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::Hi Both, I'm trying to do a vote share map and have noticed that CITE is listing Zvimba South with the results from Zvimba West and it's not on the ZEC website. Gokwe Kana also appears to be missing from ZEC- where did you get the results for these two from? [[User:ImperatordeElysium|ImperatordeElysium]] ([[User talk:ImperatordeElysium|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:06, 2 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::Hello [[User:ImperatordeElysium|ImperatordeElysium]], [https://www.veritaszim.net/sites/veritas_d/files/GN%202023-1380D%20General%20Elections%20-%20Names%20of%20Candidates%20Elected%20Following%20Poll.pdf here] is a list of all elected candidates (re)published by veritaszim.net. Unfortunately I can't access the website of the ZEC, it seems to be permanently down, I don‘t know why ... --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 21:38, 2 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::The CITE website is now redundant to use. The link that Furfur shared above is from the [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z77giwXERnxYBAkoCQhez0uAuUXScvf_/view?pli=1 Government Gazette to view here in full]. [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:11, 3 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::@[[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]]: do you know of any simiplar offical publication of the results of the presidential election? --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 01:26, 3 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::: There's a spreadsheet with a breakdown by constituency on the ZEC website, but I know you've had trouble with it. I think this is the link to direct download the Excel file though. [https://www.zec.org.zw/download/2presidential-results-2023-harmonised-elections/?wpdmdl=8210&refresh=64f47ac0177521693743808 Give it a try?] [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:26, 3 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::Thank you. Unfortunately this link does not work at my location. But I thought that there should also be a publication in the Government Gazette? --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 13:02, 3 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::[[:File:Zimbabwe Gazette of Elected Officials 2023.pdf|This is all there is]] - no figures aside from the Excel spreadsheet on the ZEC site... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::This notification contains only the statement "that Mnangagwa Emmerson Dambudzo of ZANU (PF) Party has, with effect from the 26th of August, 2023, been duly elected as the President of the Republic of Zimbabwe." No numbers and no mentioning of the other candidates. I thought that the detailed election result would perhaps be published in the Gazette ... --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 00:44, 4 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::I'm in the process of transferring the data on the ZEC site to Wikipedia. It'll take me a few days, but hopefully it will be what you want. In the meantime, I was just wondering whether you might be able to do a map with the updated districts please? Not the Constituencies - which is marvellous - but the districts. An updated, cleaner version [[:File:Zimbabwe admin.svg|of this]] in the style of your constituency maps, where the individual districts could be coloured in by an idiot like me on Inkscape...? [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:37, 6 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::::I can make a district map. It would be great if the publications of the ZEC would be accessible in the Commons – I hope that they have a free license. Could you also please upload election reports from former elections? I am thinking of making similar election maps for 2013 and 2008. And an additional questions: I have noticed that the party color of Nelson Chamisas CCC appears to be lighter than the yellow tone used in the maps here. What do you think of adapting the color of the maps? --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 22:53, 6 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::::I'm slowly working my way through them and adding them to the categories on here for the correct year. They've done a stupid thing this year and uploaded each Constituency separately. The Presidential results is as a complex Excel sheet which won't save accessibly to PDF no matter what I change. Give me some time, I'm working through a table on [[:en:Results of the 2023 Zimbabwean general election|here]] for the Assembly. Once I'm done with that, I'll start on the Presidential table by constituency. I also agree about the CCC colour. I make Chamisa's posters #FCF050. We would need to get them to change the colour profile on the political party module also to the lighter colour. I've put in an application but they're a bit slow in responding.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:05, 6 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::I've just a colour test with that shade of yellow. It's really hard to see against a white background for things such as the seating maps of Parliament etc. I think the shade that is there already is more visually accessible for diagrams and graphics.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:13, 6 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::@[[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]]: I made made a [[:File:Zimbabwe district map 2023.svg|district map]] based on the map of from the ZEC. However, I read on the internet that Harare province has four districts but in the ZEC map there are only three ...<br />You don't think that a lighter yellow, like <span style="display:inline-block; background-color:#f3f752; width:16px; height:16px; vertical-align:middle;border:thin solid black;"> </span> (#f3f752) would be more suitable? --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 23:04, 8 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::It took a lot of digging, because even the 2022 census showed the extra district. It does seem Harare is now just three districts and it's most clearly show in this report [https://teampachedu.org/docs/Pachedu2023DelimitationReport.pdf here - see page 101]. But it's definitely a change that has been done on the quiet. As for the colour, I've just tested it out on a Parliament arch. It's still very light and next to the ZANU green, it seems to have a bit of a green tinge to it. I think the slightly darker yellow is probably the best option we have for accessibility and clarity at the moment. [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:52, 9 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::@[[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]], ok, thank you for your search. I think, it would be nice, to have a district map showing the majorities in the presidential election. Do you know of any such data?<br>Regarding the color, I am not entirely convinced (one could add a small border around the seats in the Parliament arch) but I certainly don't want to change anything without your consent. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 14:52, 9 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::So this is a sample with and without border that I've done with #FCF050, which is the colour I took off their campaign material. I just think it looks a bit weak, even with a border. What do you think? [[:File:CCC Test Colour 1.svg|without border]] and here [[:File:CCC Test Colour 2.svg|with border]]. As for District data - I'm still working my way through the Parliamentary results (it takes ages as I have to download the results from each individual constituency as a separate file....). Once I've done that, I'll do the Constituency results for the Presidential election, which will be easier, and from that you could then group the constituencies into districts. But they haven't done specific district results this time round.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:26, 9 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::I've completed (finally) the results of the Constituency votes, which you can see here: [[en:Results of the 2023 Zimbabwean general election]]. I'll begin on the Presidential votes by Constituency in the coming week.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:48, 10 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::@[[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]], thank you very much for this extensive and valuable work. Regarding the parliament arch: I find both versions perfectly fine. There are also other parties with a light yellow color in other countries, e.g., the Scottish National Party ([[:File:Scottish Parliament elected members, 2007.svg]]), or the freie demokratische Partei ([[:File:Germany Parliament 2021.svg]]). --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 02:00, 10 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::[[:File:CCC Test Colour 1.svg|How about this?]] This is with #FAE64D which I found having gone through some higher resolutions of their logos / campaign material and seems to be more consistent with what they use mostly. Shall we change to this shade of yellow? I've also changed [[:File:2023 Zimbabwean presidential election by provinces.svg|this map]] to that shade of yellow just to show what it would look like in map form. I think I quite like it.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:35, 10 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::I agree. I certainly find it better (=showing better the effective party color). I changed the [[:File:Zimbabwe election map 2023.svg|constituency map]] accordingly. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 21:22, 10 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::I love it! Would you like to change the [[:File:Zimbabwe 2023 Presidential Results.svg|Presidential map]] also? I've updated the parliament arches accordingly also, but probably won't get on to the Presidential map for a while. [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:32, 10 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Ok, did it. May I ask you that you also upload the Excel spreadsheet (or any other official document) with the final results of the Presidential election (and/or save it in the [https://web.archive.org/save/ web archive])? I have the impression that access to the web site of the ZEC from outside Zimbabwe has been blocked (hopefully only temporarily), perhaps in order relieve the web host a little bit ... --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 21:45, 10 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::I tried to upload the spreadsheets to the Archive, but it wasn't working. Will try another way a bit later. In the meantime, here are the full Presidential results: [[en:User:Mangwanani/President]]. I don't think this spreadsheet needs to go in its entirety to an article.... it's massive. Not sure what best to do with it.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::[[en:Results of the 2023 Zimbabwean general election|They're done!]] I don't think I have any more results to share.... Happy number crunching! [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:29, 12 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Oh my gosh, you have been very diligent! I think, the table could well be an article but I would prefer it, if the results tables would fit on one page width. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 23:00, 12 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Yeah, I know what you mean. I took the lead from the US Presidential election analysis, which displayed them like that. I guess the solution would be to have a table that just showed the results between ZANU & CCC, but I do think it important for the people of Zim to access the data in an accessible way - unlike the ZEC website.... [[User:Mangwanani|Mangwanani]] ([[User talk:Mangwanani|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:16, 13 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Swapped numbering on [[:File:Bundestagswahlkreise 2021.svg]] == |
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Guten Abend Furfur, die Farben der Herzogtümer Sachsen und Franken sind so ähnlich, dass sie bei kleinen Projektionen wie eine Fläche erscheinen. Dass sit nicht zuletzt deswegen lästig, weil Sachsen im mittelalterlichen Sinn immer wieder von Sachsen im neuzeitlichen Sinn unterscheiden werden muss. Könntest du Franken einen kräftigen ''lime'' ton (00ff00) als Hintergrundfarbe verpassen? Thüringen ist dann m. E. immer noch ausreichend zu unterscheiden. Zudem gab es ja lange Zeit besonders enge Beziehungen zwischen den Landgrafschaften Hessen und Thüringen. Beste Grüße, [[User:Ulamm|Ulamm]] ([[User talk:Ulamm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC) |
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On the main map of [[:File:Bundestagswahlkreise 2021.svg]] the numbers 258 and 259 corresponding to Stuttgard are swapped when compared to the city view on the right. The correct ordering is the city view, i.e. 259 in the north and 258 in the south. This can be verified from the [https://www.bundeswahlleiterin.de/bundestagswahlen/2021/wahlkreiseinteilung/downloads.html source given for that file]. [[Special:Contributions/84.131.205.91|84.131.205.91]] 20:57, 6 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:Hallo [[User:Ulamm|Ulamm]], ich bin ja nicht der originale Bildersteller, sondern habe nur die französische Karte von Benutzer Sémhur übersetzt. Die Farben habe ich dabei unverändert gelassen. Sachsen und Franken kann man natürlich etwas unterschiedlicher gestalten, aber <span style="display:inline-block; background-color:#00ff00; width:16px; height:16px; vertical-align:middle;border:thin solid black;"> </span> (00ff00) ist viel zu grell. Das zerstört die ganze Karte. Größer finde ich fast das Problem Bayern und Schwaben. Die sehen sich wirklich ähnlich. Ich mache mal einen Versuch, lade das aber nur als Test-Datei ([[:File:Test.svg]]) hoch. |
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::Ich finde deinen Versuch gut gelungen und bin dafür, dass er die bisherige Kartenversion ersetzt. |
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== 2024 England GE results Map == |
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:Ok, ich werde die Nummerierung ändern. Danke für die Nachricht. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 05:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC) |
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::Jetzt sind aber die Nummern rechts falsch. [[Special:Contributions/84.131.205.91|84.131.205.91]] 14:29, 8 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Oh, pardan, ich habe nur die Nummern schnell getauscht, ohne genau hinzusehen. Das ändere ich dann gleich. Gruß --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 14:55, 8 October 2023 (UTC) |
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Helll there, please can you create a 2024 version of the File:2019 UK Election map England.svg please with the updated boundaries which you can get from File:2024 UK general election in England.svg however I don’t like the format that was made for the 2024 English map I much prefer the map you personally made from 2019, please can you create a new map please. Please feel free to get in contact with me as I can’t create such graphics myself. ([[User:MOTORAL1987|MOTORAL1987]] ([[User talk:MOTORAL1987|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)) |
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== Eisenbahn in Finnland: Finnish_railroad_network_speeds_2011.svg == |
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== File:Livland 1260.svg == |
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Hallo Furfur, die Karte ist veraltet und weist zudem einen Fehler auf, weil die Strecke Kontiomäki-Vartius als mit 25 KV ~ bezeichnet ist, was zwar technisch nicht falsch ist, aber da das gesamte elektr. Netz mit derselben Spannung versorgt wird, eine banale Info darstellt, die vor allem nichts mit der Streckengeschwindigkeit zu tun hat. Magst Du die Karte überarbeiten? Oder womit hast Du die Karte erstellt/bearbeitet, dann übernehme ich die Revision? Sonnige Grüße. Anna Catarina [[User:Anna Catarina|Anna Catarina]] ([[User talk:Anna Catarina|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:01, 12 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:Hallo [[User:Anna Catarina|Anna Catarina]], Du meinst vermutlich die Karte [[:File:Finnish railroad network speeds 2011 de.svg|Finnish railroad network speeds 2011 de.svg]]. Die Quellen für diese Datei hatte ich in der Dateibeschreibung angegeben. Wie Du aus dieser Bildhistorie sehen kannst, stimmt die Ergänzung "25 kV" nicht von mir, sondern von Benutzer Kopiersperre. Ich kann Dein Argument nachvollziehen. Die Elektrifizierung passt irgendwie nicht ganz in eine Karte, in der es um Reisegeschwindgkeiten geht. Ich bin kein Eisenbahnexperte. Mir gefiel diese Karte damals gut, deswegen habe ich sie übersetzt.<br>Es gibt eine englische, schwedische und finnische Version. Kannst Du Dir diese Versionen bitte einmal ansehen, ob eine davon die Verhältnisse korrekt beschreibt? Wenn ja, kann ich diese als Vorlage für ein Update nehmen, wenn nein, kann ich auch eine neue Karte machen (mit Inkscape oder Adobe Illustrator). Grüße --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 11:18, 12 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::Hallo Furfur, es ging nicht darum, irgendwem Fehler vorzuwerfen, sondern ich habe Dich kontaktiert, weil Du als Bearbeiter angegeben bist. So weit ich das jetzt überprüft habe, ist keine Karte in einer der drei Sprachen korrekt. Ich suche gerade nach dem aktuellen Stand auf den finn. Fachämtern und melde mich später wieder. Sonnige Grüße. Anna Catarina [[User:Anna Catarina|Anna Catarina]] ([[User talk:Anna Catarina|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:08, 12 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:::{{Ping|Anna Catarina}} Ich weiß nicht, wie Du hier auf "Vorwürfe" kommst. Ich habe lediglich gesagt, wer die Karte zuletzt modifiziert hat. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 12:11, 12 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Hallo Furfur, wie geschrieben, es ging nicht darum, wer für irgendetwas verantwortlich ist, sondern darum, dass die Karte veraltet ist. Ich hatte mit der Erwähnung des "25 kV-Fehlers" auch nicht Dich für diesen verantwortlich gemacht, sondern es lediglich festgestellt, dass er da ist. Ich habe jetzt eine zuverlässige Quelle und werde heute Abend die einzelnen Streckenabschnitte, die heute schneller befahren werden dürfen, auflisten. Eine gewisse Generalisierung ist da eingeschlossen, werde nicht einzelne (noch) nicht ausgebaute Brücken oder sonstige Langsamfahrstellen berücksichtigen. Sonnige Grüße. Anna catarina [[User:Anna Catarina|Anna Catarina]] ([[User talk:Anna Catarina|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:48, 12 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::Mich nervt dieser belehrende Tonfall. Was soll das, dieses wiederholte "es ging nicht darum"? Am Besten änderst Du die Datei selbst. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 15:56, 12 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Hallo Furfur, deine Bearbeitung (von Nordnordwests korrekterer Karte) hatte leider auch ich einige Zeit verwendet. |
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== [[:File:Tweede Kamerverkiezingen 2023 v2.svg]] == |
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Sie ist in der Farbgebung grob irreführend, weil Estland um 1260 eben <u>nicht</u> zum Ordensgebiet gehörte, bis zur Eroberung durch Waldemar II. (1219) heidnisch und dann mit kurzer Unterbrechung bis 1345 dänisch war. |
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Hi Furfur, thank you for your version of the map. I would like to point out that the colours for some muncipalities do not align with the current data. [https://app.nos.nl/nieuws/tk2023/ This NOS web app] shows the current vote majorities in each municipality. I can't edit it because I don't have sufficient permissions to overwrite the file, so I'm letting you know so you may correct it. I have used the source for my map as well, so you may also copy it from there. Kind regards, [[User:AnarchistiCookie|AnarchistiCookie]] ([[User talk:AnarchistiCookie|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:15, 25 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Dass Waldemar schon das Bistum Reval gegründet hatte, hatte schon Nordnordwest übersehen. Wie die Bistümer im dänischen Mutterland besaß das Bistum Reval kein Stiftsgebiet. |
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:Hello [[User:AnarchistiCookie|AnarchistiCookie]], thanks, I will have alook at it! --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 23:36, 25 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Ich habe eine korrigierte Version im PNG-Format erstellt. Deine falsche Karte in allen ANwendungen zu ersetzen, war fast noch mühsamer.--[[User:Ulamm|Ulamm]] ([[User talk:Ulamm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:Hello [[User:AnarchistiCookie|AnarchistiCookie]], thank you very much for notifying. I will update the map. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 16:20, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::Wer eine Karte zeichnet, sollte die Fakten verstanden haben, die von dieser Karte dargestellt werden. |
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::: Dein Benehmen finde ich unverschämt. Für wen hälst Du Dich? Ich bin sicher der Letzte, der Fehler nicht korrigiert, wenn er darauf aufmerksam gemacht wird. Ich hatte Dir gerade eben einen Gefallen getan und dann kommst Du hier in einem solchen Tonfall an. Lern mal selber, ordentliche Karten zu erstellen, anstatt den Oberlehrer und Besserwisser zu spielen. --'''''[[User:Furfur|<span style="color: #8806CE; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Furfur</span>]]'''''<sup> ⁂ [[User talk:Furfur| Diskussion]]</sup> 17:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Guten Abend Furfur, die Farben der Herzogtümer Sachsen und Franken sind so ähnlich, dass sie bei kleinen Projektionen wie eine Fläche erscheinen. Dass sit nicht zuletzt deswegen lästig, weil Sachsen im mittelalterlichen Sinn immer wieder von Sachsen im neuzeitlichen Sinn unterscheiden werden muss. Könntest du Franken einen kräftigen lime ton (00ff00) als Hintergrundfarbe verpassen? Thüringen ist dann m. E. immer noch ausreichend zu unterscheiden. Zudem gab es ja lange Zeit besonders enge Beziehungen zwischen den Landgrafschaften Hessen und Thüringen. Beste Grüße, Ulamm (talk) 15:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo Ulamm, ich bin ja nicht der originale Bildersteller, sondern habe nur die französische Karte von Benutzer Sémhur übersetzt. Die Farben habe ich dabei unverändert gelassen. Sachsen und Franken kann man natürlich etwas unterschiedlicher gestalten, aber (00ff00) ist viel zu grell. Das zerstört die ganze Karte. Größer finde ich fast das Problem Bayern und Schwaben. Die sehen sich wirklich ähnlich. Ich mache mal einen Versuch, lade das aber nur als Test-Datei (File:Test.svg) hoch.
- Ich finde deinen Versuch gut gelungen und bin dafür, dass er die bisherige Kartenversion ersetzt.
- Vielen Dank! Ulamm (talk) 20:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2024 England GE results Map
Helll there, please can you create a 2024 version of the File:2019 UK Election map England.svg please with the updated boundaries which you can get from File:2024 UK general election in England.svg however I don’t like the format that was made for the 2024 English map I much prefer the map you personally made from 2019, please can you create a new map please. Please feel free to get in contact with me as I can’t create such graphics myself. (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 14:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC))
File:Livland 1260.svg
Hallo Furfur, deine Bearbeitung (von Nordnordwests korrekterer Karte) hatte leider auch ich einige Zeit verwendet.
Sie ist in der Farbgebung grob irreführend, weil Estland um 1260 eben nicht zum Ordensgebiet gehörte, bis zur Eroberung durch Waldemar II. (1219) heidnisch und dann mit kurzer Unterbrechung bis 1345 dänisch war. Dass Waldemar schon das Bistum Reval gegründet hatte, hatte schon Nordnordwest übersehen. Wie die Bistümer im dänischen Mutterland besaß das Bistum Reval kein Stiftsgebiet.
Ich habe eine korrigierte Version im PNG-Format erstellt. Deine falsche Karte in allen ANwendungen zu ersetzen, war fast noch mühsamer.--Ulamm (talk) 01:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Danke für Deine Belehrungen (im Oberlehrer-Ton)! --Furfur ⁂ Diskussion 09:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wer eine Karte zeichnet, sollte die Fakten verstanden haben, die von dieser Karte dargestellt werden.
- (Unlängst habe ich in einer Karte das Bistum Meißen gegenüber meiner ersten Einfärbung umgefärbt, nachdem ich verstanden hatte, dass es exempt war.)
- Beste Grüße, Ulamm (talk) 09:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Dein Benehmen finde ich unverschämt. Für wen hälst Du Dich? Ich bin sicher der Letzte, der Fehler nicht korrigiert, wenn er darauf aufmerksam gemacht wird. Ich hatte Dir gerade eben einen Gefallen getan und dann kommst Du hier in einem solchen Tonfall an. Lern mal selber, ordentliche Karten zu erstellen, anstatt den Oberlehrer und Besserwisser zu spielen. --Furfur ⁂ Diskussion 17:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)