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Eclipses

See WT:YEARS#Eclipses for a matter relevant to this page. Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see any section for eclipses on the page you linked. The eclipse on April 8 is gonna be lit AF and should be added. 184.147.47.69 (talk) 01:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eclipses aren't important enough for main year articles. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Artemis 2

I think NASA is launching Artemis 2 in May 2024, is that event significant enough to be put on this page? InjectableBacon (talk) 18:13, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it's been pushed back to November. But should definitely be included if/when the mission happens. It'll be the closest humans have come to the Moon since the early 1970s. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Date format

I would like to suggest changing the date format of this article to the DMY format (e.g. 6 June 2020 as opposed to June 6, 2020). The DMY format seems more international and more suitable for a "global" article like. Also DMY simply makes more sense as it goes from smallest to highest.

At the village pump, I've presented a proposal to establish a standard to use DMY in general for all articles about "generic" years. The discussion got kind of messy however, and I'll propaly restart it at some point. In the meantime, I would like it to create consensus about changing 2024 specifically as well as all other nine articles about the 2020s to the DMY format.--Marginataen (talk) 08:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pasting the same reply at all the 2020s talk page sections on this topic, with the exception of 2023. As of about a month ago, we had a situation in which all generic year articles had a consistent date format. Since both date styles are considered appropriate per the Manual of Style, it's unusual to see such solid consistency. Since I value consistency, I appreciated that rare situation.

As of last month, only 2023 was changed via local consensus to be different than the rest. If this proposal passes for this article, it would join a tiny minority of articles that do not match the overall consistent style. I oppose for that reason.

I would be fine with all generic year articles changing to consistently use a different style, and that is the proposal on the table at WP:VPR#Date format for year articles. Currently, it seems we're at the tail end of a pre-RfC discussion with plans to move forward with an RfC in the next week or so. I would much prefer to keep discussing the overarching change rather than have individual discussions at each year article. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:07, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do think it is important to change 2024 as it is the year to come and will probably begin before we get to be done with that discussion about all articles. Marginataen (talk) 23:04, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

After a week with no but one invalid objection, I've changed the format. The objection is invalid because there is no established consensus on using the same format across articles but only within articles. That is exactly what I'll be trying to do in the comming weeks, but until then the argument there is none and the objection invalid. I will not repost this reply across articles, only here on 2024, so please response here.--Marginataen (talk) 14:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Marginataen, you can't unilaterally declare my objection invalid. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:DATEVAR requires consensus to change from an established style. Marginataen, it is clear that you do not yet have consensus. Please self-revert. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't just do it. I explained to you why it's the case. Why do you think your objection is valid when consistency across year articles has never been agreed upon? That fact was pretty much the only thing we got out of latest RfC Marginataen (talk) 15:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We haven't done any RfC, and we paused starting it on your request. There are many valid reasons to want a particular date format. MOS:DATEVAR does not comment on what rationales are valid or not, nor does any policy I'm aware of. You can disagree with my rationale, but deciding that it is invalid and then edit warring based on that decision is disruptive. Please self-revert. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh sorry, I quite obviously meant the discussion itself Marginataen (talk) 20:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying that consistency was ever agreed upon. I'm just saying that it is desirable. You are free to think otherwise. As long as there is not consensus for your position, the article should remain at the status quo ante. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:02, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone other have anything to say? Marginataen (talk) 23:44, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No one answering a talk page discussion is not an argument is not an argument for not making a change. If it was so, all changes could simply he halted by no one engaging in a talk page discussion. Does it really matter that much to you? I will end up making af RfC about it anyway but it just important for 2024 as it will soon be the current year. Marginataen (talk) 01:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Does it really matter that much to you?" is a bit of a double-edged sword, isn't it? I care enough to state my viewpoint (a few times) and help craft an RfC question. If consensus develops against me, I'll be fine. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:43, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2023 AFC Asian Cup

The tournament will start on January 19, 2024. Shouldn't we add this? Aminabzz (talk) 09:15, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is a regional sporting event. It is the same reason we don't add the superbowl or the NBA finals. PaulRKil (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Does China's Patriotic Education Law merit an entry?

Personally I oppose this as an entry, as there is no article for this law, it appears to be a purely domestic event, and its topic (education) usually doesn't merit entries on articles about years--there's no article for [years] in education.

This was the entry:

China Patriotic Education Law will take effect

JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't. It appears to not even have an article so why would it ever be included. I'm starting to think we need to semi-protect the article. It seems every time we approach the new year that IP editors show up and put poorly sourced or outright bizarre entries. PaulRKil (talk) 18:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Domestic law changes are commonplace & they're rarely important enough for main year articles. Junior, local, domestic & regional competitions are also often wrongly added. A host leaving a game show was added, before being removed. Things such as those, which are nowhere near important enough, are often added to main year articles. X2023X (talk) 01:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When does the article become present tense?

As of writing it is 8:35am UTC+2. I believe the first places to enter 2024 will cross over in 4 hours and 25 minutes from now. Will the 'January 1st' section become present/past tense when this happens? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 06:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter particularly much, a 24 hour window is quite small and any timezone error is insignificant. —Panamitsu (talk) 07:10, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Calendars

this https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024 has a nice feature (a list of what year it is in different calendars) that is absent from the present article can we get some sort of cross reference ? or put in the intro this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_calendars which isn't quite as good thanks !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cinnamon colbert (talk • contribs) 15:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cinnamon colbert: The "Year in various calendars" template was removed from Template:C21 year in topic by Johnson524 at 17:11, 14 November 2023. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 19:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Sea of Japan earthquake

Should we remove the Sea of Japan earthquake entry? I think we should. It only killed 20 people. DementiaGaming (talk) 04:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Include. 7.6 magnitude isn't a minor quake, and the casualty figure is now almost 50. There is widespread damage to properties. This was Japan's largest earthquake since 2015. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Borderline exlcude while not minor, context is important. It hit a country that is well prepared to handle earthquakes of that magnitude and the result is much less damage and loss of life compared to the earthquakes of similar magnitude we saw hit in Haiti and Turkey. Similarly, we don't include every Category 4-5 hurricane that hits the United States and causes a lot of damage and inflicts deaths in the dozens because the US is largely prepared to handle such storms. By extension, we should also exclude the plane crash that occurred. PaulRKil (talk) 13:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed my mind. The death toll has risen to 57 people, and although we're not getting an exact number on how expensive it is, it's now probably very, very, costly. Yeah, I think we should include it. DementiaGaming (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree as well to include, but we should still Exclude the related plane crash in my point of view. PaulRKil (talk) 17:29, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The death toll is now 73. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

European centric

Why is the euro final down for 14 July, but the Asian and Africa equivalents not mentioned. 80.192.242.40 (talk) 16:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of them should be as they are not global events like the olympics or the world cup so it will be removed along with the Asian and African events. PaulRKil (talk) 17:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regional competitions shouldn't be on main year articles. They should be on sub-articles such as 2024 in sports. X2023X (talk) 17:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection

People are slobbering over this page to the point where people are adding random domestic events that nobody cares about. I propose we protect this page for now until people realize that these events aren't notable enough. DementiaGaming (talk) 20:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it needs to be pending changes protected or semi-protected. A host leaving a game show & YouTuber no longer making videos were added to this article, before being rightly removed. X2023X (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've requested to have the page bumped from semi-protected to extended protected. PaulRKil (talk) 12:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Even if that isn't granted, this page needs semi-protection for this year to prevent vandalism and inexperienced editors from including irrelevant entires. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The page is semi-protected until Friday so if anything happens that warrants it to be protected again, then users can re-submit a request but they won't budge on a higher degree of protection. PaulRKil (talk) 17:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peak editing for year articles is typically late Dec & early Jan, so it'll probably reduce significantly during the next week or so. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should we add the Kerman bombings to events?

So far the bombings in Iran killed at least 103 people. Grainmaster132 (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It should be added but we should wait for more information on what exactly occurred. Entries like this tend to cause charged responses from various sides given the broader context of what is currently going on in the region so it is always best to wait in the initial stages. PaulRKil (talk) 15:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I support inclusion because of the high death toll (103 so far), the fact it took place on the anniversary of the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, and received international coverage and reactions. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Include, due to high death toll. Wjfox2005 (talk) 17:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Haneda Airport runway collision and Attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung

Should we include the 2024 Haneda Airport runway collision and the Attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung to this page? There has been a lot of back and forth about their inclusion.

Outcome will, of course, be honored. PaulRKil (talk) 16:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I hope this doesn't come off as canvassing but it feels appropriate to notify the people involved in the edit warring so they may be able to provide their perspective @Heathy94, @DL6443, @DementiaGaming, @X2023X, @sinisreality2023, @MrJaydenfire, @Wikieditor019, @Jake11223344, @Vinicius mad, @Tri Ardiansyah, @ PaulRKil (talk) 16:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I oppose both entries for lacking due weight. The 2024 Haneda Airport runway collision didn't have a high death toll and wasn't a catastrophic incident (i.e. the passengers all survived), so it only merits an entry in 2024 in Japan and not this page. The attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung didn't result in Lee Jae-myung's death (for now) and Lee Jae-myung wasn't a current or former head of state/government. By contrast, the 2022 assassination of Shinzo Abe resulted in Shinzo Abe's death who was a former head of government. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also oppose as both events don't fall into being notable enough for entry in main year articles. Major transportation disasters are normally only included and this event did not result in a catastrophic incident and plane crashes with a larger loss of life have been excluded in the past. If anything, I'd support it briefly being mentioned in the earthquake entry as it appears to be a contributing factor as the coast guard plane was responding to the earthquake.

In the case of the assassination attempt, Lee Jae-myung was not a current or former head of state/government and did not succumb to his injuries. For context, the inclusion of the assassination of Shinzo Abe in 2022 was debated because it happened after his premiership as some editors felt only assassinations of incumbents should be included, therefore trying to add an attempt on a non-national non-incumbent political figure wouldn't warrant inclusion in a main year article. PaulRKil (talk) 16:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Exclude the Haneda Airport runway collision, due to insufficient notability and low death toll. I am neutral on Lee Jae-myung, but leaning towards exclude. Wjfox2005 (talk) 17:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Exclude both. The death toll of the crash is 5. Transport accidents with similar or higher death tolls happen every day. The stabbing didn't kill anyone. There was only one victim who's never been a head of state/gov. It appears to be a lone wolf attack; there's no indication of the suspect having any international links, nor links to gangs, terrorist groups etc. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exclude Haneda Airport collision per ES of previous reverts prior to my self-revert, but support a brief mention in the January 1 earthquake entry per PaulRKil. Neutral on Lee Jae-myung. --DL6443 (^Talk/_Contribs) 21:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As a side note, I wasn't aware of the previous reverts when I added the Haneda Airport entry, and hastily self-reverted --DL6443 (^Talk/_Contribs) 21:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Exclude both'''. The death toll of the crash is 5. Transport accidents with similar or higher death tolls happen every day. The stabbing didn't kill anyone. There was only one victim who's never been a head of state/gov. It appears to be a [[lone wolf attack]]; there's no indication of the suspect having any international links, nor links to gangs, [[terrorist group]]s etc. [[User:X2023X|X2023X]] ([[User talk:X2023X|talk]]) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 *'''Exclude''' Haneda Airport collision per ES of previous reverts prior to my self-revert, but support a brief mention in the January 1 earthquake entry per {{u|PaulRKil}}. '''Neutral''' on Lee Jae-myung. --[[User:DL6443|<span style="background:#B3EBFF; color:#0000B4;">'''DL'''</span><span style="background:#0000B4; color:white;">'''6443'''</span>]] ([[User talk:DL6443|<sup>Talk</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/DL6443|<sub>Contribs</sub>]]) 21:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
+:<small>As a side note, I wasn't aware of the previous reverts when I added the Haneda Airport entry, and hastily self-reverted --[[User:DL6443|<span style="background:#B3EBFF; color:#0000B4;">'''DL'''</span><span style="background:#0000B4; color:white;">'''6443'''</span>]] ([[User talk:DL6443|<sup>Talk</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/DL6443|<sub>Contribs</sub>]]) 21:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</small>