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:DEB:26.1 'Ex eo tempore nunc cives, nunc hostes, vincebant,'. The literal translation would indeed be 'from that time now the citizens and now the enemy, were winning,'. However, considering the context of the passage within piece, translating 'hostes' as 'Saxons' would be just as permissible as translating 'cives' as 'Britons'. It's less literal, yes, but it does not alter what Gildas means drastically. [[User:Ealdwin|Ealdwin]] ([[User talk:Ealdwin|talk]]) 06:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
:DEB:26.1 'Ex eo tempore nunc cives, nunc hostes, vincebant,'. The literal translation would indeed be 'from that time now the citizens and now the enemy, were winning,'. However, considering the context of the passage within piece, translating 'hostes' as 'Saxons' would be just as permissible as translating 'cives' as 'Britons'. It's less literal, yes, but it does not alter what Gildas means drastically. [[User:Ealdwin|Ealdwin]] ([[User talk:Ealdwin|talk]]) 06:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

It makes a HUGE difference. When Gildas was referring to the enemy this was a reference to the Picts and Scots and NOT to Angles and Saxons. All the 12 Arthurian battles he lists were against the Picts and Scots. [[User:Freuchie|Freuchie]] ([[User talk:Freuchie|talk]]) 17:22, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


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