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[[User:Lankyant|Lankyant]] ([[User talk:Lankyant|talk]]) 00:59, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
[[User:Lankyant|Lankyant]] ([[User talk:Lankyant|talk]]) 00:59, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
:I'd be in favor of that, but my recollection is that ''Aliens'' is the film that really became a feminist touchstone. The first film, while featuring Ripley as a strong survivor and a high-ranking crew member of responsibility, also suffers to some degree from the horror-film "last girl standing" trope. [[User:MFNickster|MFNickster]] ([[User talk:MFNickster|talk]]) 16:59, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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Good articleAlien (film) has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 2, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
February 4, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed
October 6, 2008Good article nomineeListed
October 13, 2008Featured article candidateNot promoted
July 28, 2021Good article reassessmentDelisted
September 2, 2022Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

GA reassessment

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Result: Delisted Multiple citation needed tags still present. A bit of a shame as these could have been fixed relatively easily. Still it has been open for three months now and more than enough time has passed Aircorn (talk) 18:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2008 promotion that has seen better days. Although many parts are exquisitely detailed, there are dozens of citation needed tags (including one in the lead) that need to be addressed. I recently made some edits myself regarding extra references in the lead and infobox, but I can't assist anywhere else. I feel the dozens of tags are sufficient enough to nominate for reassessment. – zmbro (talk) 19:46, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now there are 14. I am not going to work on this article myself but am curious to know whether if all the remaining uncited sentences were removed it would still rate as "good"?Chidgk1 (talk) 18:08, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"... One of the best films of all time"

The unsupported statement: " and is considered one of the greatest films of all time" is found on the lede of the article. There is no reference to support the idea, nor is it the film referenced or mentioned in the article linked in there. 181.51.32.39 (talk) 17:38, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

why does the blue word alien link to croissants please change delete this message after you changed it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D09:1580:9600:24CC:97D1:CF9D:8D11 (talk) 01:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Original ending

The article currently states:

“Alien originally was to conclude with the destruction of the Nostromo while Ripley escapes in the shuttle Narcissus. However, Scott conceived of a "fourth act" to the film in which the alien appears on the shuttle and Ripley is forced to confront it. He pitched the idea to 20th Century Fox and negotiated an increase in the budget to film the scene over several extra days. Scott had wanted the alien to bite off Ripley's head and then make the final log entry in her voice, but the producers vetoed this idea, because they believed the alien should die at the end of the film.”

The source given is the DVD director's commentary, which I don't have handy. I don't believe this is correct, because the 1976 screenplay by O'Bannon (before Hill & Giler revised it) ends with Roby finding the alien in the shuttle, shooting it with the spear gun and blowing it out the airlock, just as in the final film. There's even an illustration by O'Bannon showing the alien squirming outside the shuttle. As far as I know, Ridley Scott only came up with the “twist ending” of having the alien kill Ripley and make the log entry in her voice. Can anyone confirm? MFNickster (talk) 18:02, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Alien (film)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 16:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Well, given that this was delisted for a small number of citation needed tags, and those have now all been fixed with new citations, I'd just about be willing to pass this immediately. The article provides above-GA-level, near-comprehensive coverage, with over 180 citations. It's a mature article, worked on since 2002, and over the years expanded to over 150,000 bytes.

It would be as well, however, if a few statements were cited:

  • 'Cast': Helen Horton.
  • 'Writing': sole credit given to O'Bannon.
  • In 'The Alien', " as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably " --- should this not be "...Hurt), it is..."? It seems to be one sentence if you read it.
  • Not clear why the quote box in 'Spaceships and planets' is on the left; it would look more natural on the right, certainly the more usual placement for quotes. That way Cobb is introduced in the text, and then quoted.

That's about it from me. The article is well-written and properly structured so once these small items are fixed it'll be on its way. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing the review :)
I will look for cites later.
As for the 'The Alien' quote I get what you mean, it reads odd but I checked the source (and marked it as dead url) and it is written like that in the source... I'm assuming it's an issue of transcribing a spoken interview maybe?
And I've moved the quote box, it did look out of place on the left.
Lankyant (talk) 10:18, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've now cited both points! The O'Bannon cite, I can't get the exact page number because I don't have JStor access but it is talked about in there.
Lankyant (talk) 10:34, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Great, that's all fine. The page range is the correct format. Many thanks for the rescue. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:57, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by CSJJ104 (talk22:25, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that the working title of Alien was Star Beast? Source: [1]
    • ALT1: ... that Alien was made into a high school play by students at North Bergen High School? Source: [2]
    • ALT2: ... that Alien has been called a "rape movie with male victims"? Source: [3]
    • ALT3: ... that while filming the 'chestburster scene' in Alien one actor found it so shocking they fell over and went into hysterics? Source: [4]
    • Reviewed:

Improved to Good Article status by Lankyant (talk). Self-nominated at 11:24, 2 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Promoted to GA status on 9/2. Long enough and appears policy compliant. My attempt to run an Earwig check was unsuccessful (the results would not load) but my spot-checking didn't detect anything nefarious. (If someone else can get earwig to run, that would be great.) The proposed hooks are interesting/hooky and are short enough. Certain of the sources are books that are not available for my online verification, but they are accepted in good faith. This is the nominator's second DYK and so no QPQ is required. Cbl62 (talk) 13:26, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Earwig flags a potential violation, but they're all direct quotes and presented as such within the article. CSJJ104 (talk) 22:25, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Scanlon, Paul; Cross, Michael (1979). The Book of Alien. London: Titan Books. ISBN 1-85286-483-4.
  2. ^ Sharf, Zack (March 28, 2019). "Ridley Scott Praises Students for 'Alien' Stage Show, Offers Funds for Encore Performance". Archived from the original on April 7, 2019. Retrieved April 8, 2020.
  3. ^ McIntee, David (2005). Beautiful Monsters: The Unofficial and Unauthorized Guide to the Alien and Predator Films. Surrey: Telos Publishing. p. 48. ISBN 1-903889-94-4.
  4. ^ McIntee, David (2005). Beautiful Monsters: The Unofficial and Unauthorized Guide to the Alien and Predator Films. Surrey: Telos Publishing. p. 32. ISBN 1-903889-94-4.

Feminism

Before I try and take this article to Featured I think that it definitely needs a section around feminism and feminist interpretations of the film. It is majorly important in feminist cinema studies and it's weird it hasnt been raised before. Unfortunately, I don't have access to all the sources I like but want to build a little list of places to go if you wanted to create the section. (Thanks to User:Kaldari for raising this and suggesting the first two.) Feel free to create this section of add to this list.

Books:

  • Alien Woman: The Making of Lt. Ellen Ripley (especially the introduction and first chapter)
  • Alien Zone: Cultural Theory and Contemporary Science Fiction Cinema (especially the chapters "Feminism and Anxiety in Alien" and "Feminism, Humanism, and Science in Alien").
  • Alien Constructions : Science Fiction and Feminist Thought
  • Blood Relations: Feminist Theory Meets the Uncanny Alien Bug Mother

Articles:

Lankyant (talk) 00:59, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be in favor of that, but my recollection is that Aliens is the film that really became a feminist touchstone. The first film, while featuring Ripley as a strong survivor and a high-ranking crew member of responsibility, also suffers to some degree from the horror-film "last girl standing" trope. MFNickster (talk) 16:59, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]