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The account of Castlehill immediately after the death of Lewis Cuthbert in 1802 is pure nonsense and can't be the result of any research whatsoever - unless the intention is to account solely for the the medieval titular barony and the title to that - even that surely cannot have been sold to any "London firm". In fact the estate became the subject of legal proceedings which eventually developed into two main lawsuits - a multiplepoinding in Scotland which ran until the 1840s and was launched in 1809, and a rather more abbreviated action in Chancery in London, mainly concerned with debts mainly due to the Aldworth-Neville-Braybrooke family of Audley End from which Lewis Cuthbert had leased (by advanced payment in full, but others had since accumulated) the patent office of Provost Marhsal (depute) of Jamaica beyween the late 1770s and the posthumous expiry of his 1792 renewal of the lease in around 1811. Before his death Cuthbert had agreed with his main London backer and eventual executor, Abram Robarts, soon to become MP for Worcester, an East India Company Director and Jamaica merchant, that on his death the estate should be sold, which was what Robarts did, on a rising market neither man had anticipated, which raised more than enough to pay off the accumulated debts since Lewis himself had become proprietor in 1789, on the death of his younger brother, George, in Jamaica. The lawsuits were about the payment of the debts. The major purchaser of the estate, which is these days regarded as prime develooment land on the east of the burgh of Inverness along the A 96, just happened to be the Earl of Lovat of the time, who didn't operate as a London firm - at least, not then.[[User:Delahays|Delahays]] ([[User talk:Delahays|talk]]) 17:40, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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The account of Castlehill immediately after the death of Lewis Cuthbert in 1802 is pure nonsense and can't be the result of any research whatsoever - unless the intention is to account solely for the the medieval titular barony and the title to that - even that surely cannot have been sold to any "London firm". In fact the estate became the subject of legal proceedings which eventually developed into two main lawsuits - a multiplepoinding in Scotland which ran until the 1840s and was launched in 1809, and a rather more abbreviated action in Chancery in London, mainly concerned with debts mainly due to the Aldworth-Neville-Braybrooke family of Audley End from which Lewis Cuthbert had leased (by advanced payment in full, but others had since accumulated) the patent office of Provost Marhsal (depute) of Jamaica beyween the late 1770s and the posthumous expiry of his 1792 renewal of the lease in around 1811. Before his death Cuthbert had agreed with his main London backer and eventual executor, Abram Robarts, soon to become MP for Worcester, an East India Company Director and Jamaica merchant, that on his death the estate should be sold, which was what Robarts did, on a rising market neither man had anticipated, which raised more than enough to pay off the accumulated debts since Lewis himself had become proprietor in 1789, on the death of his younger brother, George, in Jamaica. The lawsuits were about the payment of the debts. The major purchaser of the estate, which is these days regarded as prime develooment land on the east of the burgh of Inverness along the A 96, just happened to be the Earl of Lovat of the time, who didn't operate as a London firm - at least, not then.Delahays (talk) 17:40, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]