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The version shown in the infobox image says on him (meaning the monarch) but the version in the main text says on thee (meaning God). I've heard both versions sung in recordings I've come across. There's already mention of the controversy over whose enemies are being scattered, but no discussion of this difference. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 17:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source incorrect for claim of no English national anthem

The source is incorrect for the claim of no English national anthem. I didn't find a better source, so I have not changed it. 86.3.140.205 (talk) 22:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-== French origin? ==
+== On whom all hopes we fix? ==
+The version shown in the infobox image says on ''him'' (meaning the monarch) but the version in the main text says on ''thee'' (meaning God). I've heard both versions sung in recordings I've come across. There's already mention of the controversy over whose enemies are being scattered, but no discussion of this difference. [[User:Robin S. Taylor|Robin S. Taylor]] ([[User talk:Robin S. Taylor|talk]]) 17:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
-This page on ouest-france claims a French origin to the song: https://www.ouest-france.fr/leditiondusoir/2018-05-15/quelle-est-lorigine-de-lhymne-britannique-god-save-the-queen-75a8d461-efbe-47f9-be26-fd59bdb2c7da It's not well sourced, but neither is the article here. It says Handel heard it while in France, and brought it to the UK after. There is a wikipedia article which seems to be the same song [[Domine_salvum_fac_regem]] but with a latin title, not french. That page mentions this song as being inspired by that one, but again no sources. [[Special:Contributions/178.139.170.133|178.139.170.133]] ([[User talk:178.139.170.133|talk]]) 18:09, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
+== Source incorrect for claim of no English national anthem ==
-== Update Citation ==
-The current British Royal Family website for the [[God Save the King|national anthem]] is an archive and takes a long time to load. I suggest adding the current, on-archived one at https://www.royal.uk/national-anthem. [[User:StrawWord298944|StrawWord298944]] ([[User talk:StrawWord298944|talk]]) 19:58, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
+The source is incorrect for the claim of no English national anthem. I didn't find a better source, so I have not changed it. [[Special:Contributions/86.3.140.205|86.3.140.205]] ([[User talk:86.3.140.205|talk]]) 22:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
-:@[[User:StrawWord298944|StrawWord298944]] - Which citation is it? i.e. What number is it? [[User:DDMS123|DDMS123]] ([[User talk:DDMS123|talk]]) 20:08, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
-::Sorry for taking so long to reply, I’ve been away for a few days. Number 22. It can be found at the end of the lyrics for the anthem under the section “Use in the United Kingdom”. [[User:StrawWord298944|StrawWord298944]] ([[User talk:StrawWord298944|talk]]) 19:39, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
-:::@[[User:StrawWord298944|StrawWord298944]] - When I click on citation 22, it goes straight to the royal.uk website. For me, it's not an archive. [[User:DDMS123|DDMS123]] ([[User talk:DDMS123|talk]]) 20:56, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
-::::It wasn't n22, it was n1 that was the problem. I've fixed it (I hope). [[User:GrindtXX|GrindtXX]] ([[User talk:GrindtXX|talk]]) 21:11, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
-:::::Sorry, I was in a haste and saw a citation that said "royal.uk" and "The National Anthem". [[User:StrawWord298944|StrawWord298944]] ([[User talk:StrawWord298944|talk]]) 19:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
-== Minor suggestion ==
-"when British monarch is female" - it should say "when *the* British monarch is female". I can't edit it myself because this page is protected. Thanks [[Special:Contributions/83.29.39.253|83.29.39.253]] ([[User talk:83.29.39.253|talk]]) 16:50, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
-:{{done}} [[User:DDMS123|DDMS123]] ([[User talk:DDMS123|talk]]) 19:05, 7 May 2023 (UTC)