Talk:Dune II: Difference between revisions

Battle for Arrakis

The Amiga port was also known as Battle for Arrakis at least in Europe. I don't know about Merka. — JIP | Talk 09:37, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Battle for Arakis and Building of a Dynasty are NOT simply different names, but substancial improvement steps. Main exemple being you could use your tank to roll on Fremen in one version, while you could not in the other, and the radar operator in one of them initially told you, for example "Ordos unit approching from the north!" for the first two assault waves while the other version never added the orgin of the attackers. 132.204.243.254 (talk) 22:08, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Image rendering in Firefox

I have no idea why, but the image Image:Dune2intro.png in the intro doesn't render properly in firefox, although it is fine with opera and ie. Anyone got any ideas regarding a solution to this? Jacoplane 07:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, seems to work now. Jacoplane 17:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Hmm actually it's not displaying in Firefox for me any longer. Does anyone else have issues with this image? jacoplane 20:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ad/Dune2intro.png works... jacoplane 20:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

It's not displaying for me either - and I use Maxthon. Do you have any idea why this is happening? --Zoz (t) 18:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I have this problem occassionalyl on wikipedia. I use firefox/ It doesnt really make sense. I even tried reuploading these images and to no avail. This is a much larger issue than just this specific case. --larsinio (poke)^(prod) 20:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's much larger than a specific case. E.g. about half of the Transylvania gallery isn't displaying for me either. Maybe we should report this as a bug, then? But I'm not sure where to complain. --Zoz (t) 10:38, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

From the game manual?

Isn't it a copyvio to quote whole paragraphs from the game manual? --Zoz (t) 10:41, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, per WP:COPYVIO#text you can quote attributed parts for context, and when I pasted it, the section was a stub; but it would be admitedly better to replace it with a proper synopsis based on the text. IvanDíaz 10:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Deviator Cheat

I added a bit about the deviator "cheat", although this really isn't a cheat per-se, because it's more of a bug. I didn't want to add a whole bug section. --GTPoompt 15:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Where is all the trivia information about the bugs of the game? The article had a large list of interesting bugs. Why delete interesting information? Lazy form-before-content noobs... to hell if I am ever contributing to this damn wiki again. (7 may 2007, just somebody)

Repair + Carryall

A hidden (?) feature is to surround your repair facility with a wall. This will make the carryall fly the repaired vehicles back to the battle (usefuly only if you have the superior force, late in the game).

Infinite credits?

In the past my favourite was the long-term 'starvation' tactic, that is, letting the AI costantly send units into my wall of rocket turrets. Once the stream of units stopped, that meant that the AI has spent everything and so couldn't put up a defense (or repair buildings) when I attacked. So the 'infinite credits' accusation is false.

I replayed it this week, going for a fast, perfectionist strategy that consisted of quickly deploying 4+ harvesters and then carryalls to speed it up even more. Yet after each mission, statistics said that the opponent was able to match my spice income pretty well. Which is kinda surprising because every time there was only one refinery with a single harvester in the opponent's base. Thus it appears that the AI receives more credits for harvested spice than the player does.

It also seems that the AI begins with an already built base, so it doesn't need to invest credits into base construction. --theultramage 11:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

sega genesis cheats

I havent played the game for other platforms, but i know that there are some biult in cheats for the genesis version

You just enter in one of the special cheats into the password box (which is normally used to load games)

They include chaets for infinite credits, invincible vehicles and a completely uncovered map Mr toasty 06:19, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Sardaukar captured tech

I think it should be added that both the Atreides and Harkonnen special units can be constructed from a captured Sardaukar heavy factory.

Also, though I don't know if this breaks the original research rule, I know from experience that the Ordos Deviator turns any unit it hits to ORDOS side, instead of the side of the unit that hit it. This makes capturing Ordos weapons factory to construct the Deviator uttterly useless. (apparently the WW team knew this, as the unit can't be built when capturing the Sardaukar factory)

I don't know if a similar tech mix applies to a captured Sardaukar Light factory, which theoretically could allow the player to build the Ordos-specific Raider Trike.

Nyerguds 19:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

In which case, the comment I added regarding a deviator deviating itself is wrong. I am convinced I have ended up successfully using a deviator which fell into its own nerve gas while I was Atreides. I was playing DOS version of the original DUNE 2 (not 2000).

129.12.200.49 13:01, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Credits rollover bug

It's apparent that the variable used to hold the player's score display is a single byte, signed integer value. When your credits hit 64K (binary K, not 64,000) the counter rolls over and displays garbage data. If the value were unsigned (for positive numbers only), it could hold/display a number up to 256K. This is due to a signed integer using one bit soley to indicate positive or negative.

SEGA version

I've tried playing the SEGA version on an emulator and it's very difficult due to the much lower maximum number of units permitted on each map. I have trouble having enough units built to both defend my base and attack the enemy base. When the player wins on each map, a flight of Carryalls flies up the screen in an inverted chevron formation.

HP Calculator version?

I once found a ROM image supposedly for 'Dune II' for a Hewlett Packard HP 48 or HP 49 calculator. I got the image file to load into an HP calculator emulator, but there was no instructions included with the ROM file so I could never figureout how to run/launch/execute the game program.

Units

Since the units are consider gamecruft I moved them to a gaming wiki so they can be preserved. You can now find the information here --Cs california 08:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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Fair use rationale for Image:DuneII.jpg

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deviated unit in repair facility

A few days ago, I added the following line to chapter on AI:

• If you put a deviated unit in a repair facility, the deviated effect never wears off, so the unit stays yours.

However, now I notice this is not so much an AI bug as a bug in the game itself. If anyone knows a better place where to put this, please let me know or fix it yourself.

Van der Hoorn 03:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it's OK for now in that section, since a few of the other entries in the "artificial intelligence" section have nothing to do with AI and are just plain bugs (or features :D). --GTPoompt(talk) 18:14, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Unfair Criticism

It doesn't seem unfair at all to any of you that Dune 2 pretty much pioneered RTS games as they are today and is a 15 year old game with no proper predecessor. The criticisms are so ridiculously stupid, I don't remember anyone criticising it at the time for much of the crap that's mentioned in the article at all. Anyone?

niko (talk) 16:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree and as the section is unsourced I will remove it. ●BillPP ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:26, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Interface (Grouping Units)

The article currently reads that you could not group units. This is untrue. To group units, you would pick one to be the lead unit, and then tell your other units to move to the lead unit. From that point forth, whenever the lead unit moved, the other units would follow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.30.34.229 (talk) 07:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

First?

The article currently says that Dune II:

"was the first to use the mouse to move units, allowing players to fluidly interact with their troops"

I've played The Ancient Art of War at Sea (1987, or 5 years older than Dune II, according to their respective Wikipedia articles), and it definitely allowed using the mouse to move units.

I have not read Bob Bates' "Game Developer's Market Guide", which is cited as the source for the current sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.16.40.113 (talk) 08:34, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Fan Mods - Super Dune 2 and Super Dune 2 Classic

What about Super Dune 2? Do you think this mod should find it's way into this article? I think at least there should be some mention about the mercenary faction, existent just in the game files but non-existent in the original game scenario. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.97.144.56 (talk) 23:45, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

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