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== Redirect == |
== Redirect == |
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This shouldn't redirect to Mozilla Firefox directly... should it? |
This shouldn't redirect to Mozilla Firefox directly... should it? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:192.235.8.2|192.235.8.2]] ([[User talk:192.235.8.2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/192.235.8.2|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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No, the redirect feature is misused enough as it is, if it redircts there then we would have to add a section there exlaining the differences.... Who would wanna type all that just to goto and article that says Firefox? [[User:Realg187|RealG187]] 16:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC) |
No, the redirect feature is misused enough as it is, if it redircts there then we would have to add a section there exlaining the differences.... Who would wanna type all that just to goto and article that says Firefox? [[User:Realg187|RealG187]] 16:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC) |
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== Drive life == |
== Drive life == |
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Perhaps someone could provide an actual source that explains the implications of running a browser or other app off of a flash drive or other portable device. It would probably be a good idea to use such data in the creation of a section detailing this implications. After all it is the reason the package was created.--<small>[[User:Oni Ookami Alfador|< |
Perhaps someone could provide an actual source that explains the implications of running a browser or other app off of a flash drive or other portable device. It would probably be a good idea to use such data in the creation of a section detailing this implications. After all it is the reason the package was created.--<small>[[User:Oni Ookami Alfador|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Oni Ookami Alfador</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Oni Ookami Alfador|Talk]]|[[Special:Emailuser/Oni Ookami Alfador|@]]</sup></small> 19:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== what licensing got to do with this? == |
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"(Firefox Portable's ability to delete cookies and the download history on exit is not enabled by default as per a licensing agreement with Mozilla)" |
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Why did they require that those features be like that? shouldn't there be a citation or somthing? --[[User:TiagoTiago|TiagoTiago]] ([[User talk:TiagoTiago|talk]]) 23:17, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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The settings actually mimic the standard Firefox settings on the desktop by default with the exception of ones that specifically help portable users without impacting functionality too badly. Specifically, disk cache is disabled (it makes Firefox run slower from flash devices), check for default browser is disabled (obvious), etc. As a user you can do additional things like set it to disable cookies or history, but those options are not on by default. And all option changes are reviewed with Mozilla as per our licensing agreement with them. [[User:CritterNYC|CritterNYC]] ([[User talk:CritterNYC|talk]]) 05:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Is the licensing agreement terms disclosed somewhere? --[[Special:Contributions/151.31.55.237|151.31.55.237]] ([[User talk:151.31.55.237|talk]]) 14:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC) |
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== Notability == |
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I see the notice concerning notability of Firefox Portable. It is notable as it is one of the two flagship applications of the portableapps website, and in fact Portable Firefox is used often in universities (where students use Windows computers that are not their own). <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dotancohen|Dotancohen]] ([[User talk:Dotancohen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dotancohen|contribs]]) 18:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Virus == |
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I went to the download link, avast Antivirus aborted the install since it came bundled with the Virtumonde virus <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:IlllllllllIlllllllllIff|IlllllllllIlllllllllIff]] ([[User talk:IlllllllllIlllllllllIff|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/IlllllllllIlllllllllIff|contribs]]) 15:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:It's a false positive, it's the way the program is compressed, even if it was a virus or a known issue, this would be original research and can't be used on this article. [[User:Antonio Lopez|<span style='color: #339933;font-family:courier new;'>Antonio López</span>]] <sup> [[User_talk:Antonio_Lopez|<span style='color: #ff0000;text-decoration:underline;'>(desu)</span>]] </sup> 01:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC) |
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==Move discussion in progress== |
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There is a move discussion in progress on [[Talk:Mozilla Firefox 4#Requested move |Talk:Mozilla Firefox 4]] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Mozilla Firefox 4 crosspost --> —[[User:RM bot|RM bot]] 01:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Differences in source code? == |
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Are there any differences in the Firefox source code compared to the official version? The mentioned differences (e.g. no cache) all sound like things which may just be provided by settings in the pre-created profile (and also available in the official version if you want to use those features). The launcher needs some source code, but it could have been designed so that the launcher is a separate program, independent of Firefox. At least under Linux, you can choose to get your profile (complete with the profiles.ini file and other default directories) in a custom directory by changing the value of the $HOME environmental variable, and Firefox Portable's launcher might attempt to do the same thing under Windows (by changing the value of the %APPDATA% environmental variable). ([[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 13:33, 29 August 2011 (UTC)) |
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== Installation == |
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Hello! |
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It's not correct to say that this software works without installation. Actually only thing you can download is installation package and there is no way to start this software without installing it first. Also it will not work if you just move installed folder to another machine and run it. --[[User:Varnav|Varnav]] ([[User talk:Varnav|talk]]) 07:09, 7 September 2012 (UTC) |
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<P> yes & no,,, the "installation package" is built as a self extractor so the user is not required to have or install an archive manager. the "installation package" may be decompressed using an archive manager such as 7-zip if the user chooses to do so. |
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[[User:Waptek|Waptek]] ([[User talk:Waptek|talk]]) 10:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:Yes and it should work if you move the "installed folder" to another computer presuming the computer OS is compatible with the browser. If it doesn't work, either you failed to move or copy the entire directory so are missing essential files, or perhaps the computer you're trying to run it on has restricted access to unapproved programs or something similar. I don't know enough about the specifics of Firefox Portable but in some cases the program may not work if you change the drive path [http://portableapps.com/node/26892]. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 19:34, 26 October 2014 (UTC) |
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Redirect
[edit]This shouldn't redirect to Mozilla Firefox directly... should it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.235.8.2 (talk • contribs)
No, the redirect feature is misused enough as it is, if it redircts there then we would have to add a section there exlaining the differences.... Who would wanna type all that just to goto and article that says Firefox? RealG187 16:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Where are the cookies stored?
[edit]Perhaps the article could be more clear on the fact cookies are stored on the USB drive instead of the host computer, so that the end user does not need to "clear private data" on each and every exit? The whole point of having a portable browser is to carry your forum passwords/memberships with you, without having to relogin everywhere you go. Automatically deleting private data on each and every exit sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it? 87.101.51.81 17:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Use of Firefox logo
[edit]My understanding is that this is not software from Mozilla, and so is not allowed to use the Firefox logo. I checked the Mozilla Firefox - Portable Edition website, and it also uses the logo, but appears to be a 3rd party build. I've removed the Firefox logo (contained in the TOC) from the other 3rs party build articles, but NOT here, being as it is used on the website. Please could someone check this. This is a Trademark issue that Mozilla are strict about.
In particular: I've removed Firefox logo from non Firefox / Mozilla software page - see Template_talk:Firefox_TOC, image allows use only if "It is non-confusing and non-disparaging;" Image:Firefox_logo_305x150.png) I would say that usage on a non official build is confusing (and I know they don't normally allow it to be included in 3rd party builds). Widefox 00:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- Firefox Portable does use official builds from Mozilla. It is Firefox, but it just doesn't need to be installed (thanks to the launcher) and it's very useful for people with Flash drives. --AlexJohnc3 (talk) 16:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
It also notes on the Firefox Portable page that "Mozilla®, Firefox® and the Firefox logo are registered trademarks of the Mozilla Foundation and are used with permission." Mozilla gave permission for the use of these logos in this package.
Life of Flash Drive
[edit]It says enabling history, cache, etc will redice the life of a flash drive. Do flash drives stop working after you write them so many times? RealG187 16:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
NAND Flash chips have a limited write cycle life but so does every medium available. Flash chips have a typical write life of ~100,000 writes in most cases, and given that nearly ALL flash controllers in USB drives do wear leveling, this is not ever going to impact anyone before the drive itself simply stops working. It would be years before any problems occurred even if you write to the drive constantly. Mrsteveman1 10:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:FirfoxPortableTemp.PNG
[edit]Image:FirfoxPortableTemp.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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Drive life
[edit]Perhaps someone could provide an actual source that explains the implications of running a browser or other app off of a flash drive or other portable device. It would probably be a good idea to use such data in the creation of a section detailing this implications. After all it is the reason the package was created.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 19:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
what licensing got to do with this?
[edit]"(Firefox Portable's ability to delete cookies and the download history on exit is not enabled by default as per a licensing agreement with Mozilla)"
Why did they require that those features be like that? shouldn't there be a citation or somthing? --TiagoTiago (talk) 23:17, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
The settings actually mimic the standard Firefox settings on the desktop by default with the exception of ones that specifically help portable users without impacting functionality too badly. Specifically, disk cache is disabled (it makes Firefox run slower from flash devices), check for default browser is disabled (obvious), etc. As a user you can do additional things like set it to disable cookies or history, but those options are not on by default. And all option changes are reviewed with Mozilla as per our licensing agreement with them. CritterNYC (talk) 05:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Is the licensing agreement terms disclosed somewhere? --151.31.55.237 (talk) 14:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Notability
[edit]I see the notice concerning notability of Firefox Portable. It is notable as it is one of the two flagship applications of the portableapps website, and in fact Portable Firefox is used often in universities (where students use Windows computers that are not their own). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dotancohen (talk • contribs) 18:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Virus
[edit]I went to the download link, avast Antivirus aborted the install since it came bundled with the Virtumonde virus —Preceding unsigned comment added by IlllllllllIlllllllllIff (talk • contribs) 15:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- It's a false positive, it's the way the program is compressed, even if it was a virus or a known issue, this would be original research and can't be used on this article. Antonio López (desu) 01:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Mozilla Firefox 4 which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 01:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Differences in source code?
[edit]Are there any differences in the Firefox source code compared to the official version? The mentioned differences (e.g. no cache) all sound like things which may just be provided by settings in the pre-created profile (and also available in the official version if you want to use those features). The launcher needs some source code, but it could have been designed so that the launcher is a separate program, independent of Firefox. At least under Linux, you can choose to get your profile (complete with the profiles.ini file and other default directories) in a custom directory by changing the value of the $HOME environmental variable, and Firefox Portable's launcher might attempt to do the same thing under Windows (by changing the value of the %APPDATA% environmental variable). (Stefan2 (talk) 13:33, 29 August 2011 (UTC))
Installation
[edit]Hello!
It's not correct to say that this software works without installation. Actually only thing you can download is installation package and there is no way to start this software without installing it first. Also it will not work if you just move installed folder to another machine and run it. --Varnav (talk) 07:09, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
yes & no,,, the "installation package" is built as a self extractor so the user is not required to have or install an archive manager. the "installation package" may be decompressed using an archive manager such as 7-zip if the user chooses to do so. Waptek (talk) 10:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes and it should work if you move the "installed folder" to another computer presuming the computer OS is compatible with the browser. If it doesn't work, either you failed to move or copy the entire directory so are missing essential files, or perhaps the computer you're trying to run it on has restricted access to unapproved programs or something similar. I don't know enough about the specifics of Firefox Portable but in some cases the program may not work if you change the drive path [1]. Nil Einne (talk) 19:34, 26 October 2014 (UTC)