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== Wikipedia is not censored... but == |
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When I first came to this page, in order to check the definition of 'Hentai', I was somewhat surprised to see some of the images it included and immediately 'thought of the children'. I rushed to this talk page to 'say something', but then noted from the top of this talk page that "Wikipedia is not censored". Okay, I'm being too prudish. |
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Next stop: Wikipedia's entry on [[Pornography]], which I expected to be (and was) far more prudish in its approach to the subject matter. I was going to comment on that article's failure to provide clear visual demonstrations (aka the '[[Hentai]] example'), until I followed through from '[[What Wikipedia is not]]' to the guideline on [[Wikipedia:Offensive material]]. |
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This latter article states that (and I quote its entire first paragraph for context purposes, but have not bothered to carry links over - the reader can check them if they so wish): |
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: Wikipedia's encyclopedic mission encompasses the inclusion of material that may offend. Wikipedia is not censored. However, offensive words and offensive images should not be included unless they are treated in an encyclopedic manner. Material that would be considered vulgar or obscene by typical Wikipedia readers should be used if and only if its omission would cause the article to be less informative, relevant, or accurate, and no equally suitable alternative is available. |
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I suggest that some of the pictures in the Hentai article fail this test, and should be removed. Certain other pictures that have been included in the article are more than adequate to provide the reader with a clear understanding of Hentai. To be specific, I propose the removal of: |
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* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hadako-tan.png |
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* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hentai_-_yuuree-redraw.jpg |
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Additionally, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Futanari.png should be considered for removal unless a specific value can be defined that it represents and that will be lost with the loss of the image. |
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While https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tako_to_ama_retouched.jpg may be offensive to some portions of the community, it is presumably of historical interest and thus adds value to the article from that perspective. |
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Can whomever has been involved in managing this particular page please consider this proposal on the basis of Wikipedia's guidelines and in particular the guidance on [[Wikipedia:Offensive material|offensive material]]. If there are no responses in a day or two to this proposal, I will assume that what I am suggesting is uncontroversial and remove all three indicated images. [[User:Ambiguosity|Ambiguosity]] ([[User talk:Ambiguosity|talk]]) 06:39, 6 September 2017 (UTC) |
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Hentai was nominated as a Social sciences and society good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (December 11, 2013). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
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Yaoi and Yuri target-audiences?
How is it that Yaoi is presented as an exclusively female-oriented genre, while Yuri is presented as being aimed at heterosexual women as well as lesbians and straight men? Even if there's some straight women who like the Yuri genre, they're not the intended audience, or not any more than straight men being the audience of Yaoi. In fact, Yaoi attracts men as well as women, and a big part of those men are actually straight and not gay. (see the Wiki article on "Yaoi")
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Wikipedia is not censored... but
When I first came to this page, in order to check the definition of 'Hentai', I was somewhat surprised to see some of the images it included and immediately 'thought of the children'. I rushed to this talk page to 'say something', but then noted from the top of this talk page that "Wikipedia is not censored". Okay, I'm being too prudish.
Next stop: Wikipedia's entry on Pornography, which I expected to be (and was) far more prudish in its approach to the subject matter. I was going to comment on that article's failure to provide clear visual demonstrations (aka the 'Hentai example'), until I followed through from 'What Wikipedia is not' to the guideline on Wikipedia:Offensive material.
This latter article states that (and I quote its entire first paragraph for context purposes, but have not bothered to carry links over - the reader can check them if they so wish):
- Wikipedia's encyclopedic mission encompasses the inclusion of material that may offend. Wikipedia is not censored. However, offensive words and offensive images should not be included unless they are treated in an encyclopedic manner. Material that would be considered vulgar or obscene by typical Wikipedia readers should be used if and only if its omission would cause the article to be less informative, relevant, or accurate, and no equally suitable alternative is available.
I suggest that some of the pictures in the Hentai article fail this test, and should be removed. Certain other pictures that have been included in the article are more than adequate to provide the reader with a clear understanding of Hentai. To be specific, I propose the removal of:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hadako-tan.png
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hentai_-_yuuree-redraw.jpg
Additionally, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Futanari.png should be considered for removal unless a specific value can be defined that it represents and that will be lost with the loss of the image.
While https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tako_to_ama_retouched.jpg may be offensive to some portions of the community, it is presumably of historical interest and thus adds value to the article from that perspective.
Can whomever has been involved in managing this particular page please consider this proposal on the basis of Wikipedia's guidelines and in particular the guidance on offensive material. If there are no responses in a day or two to this proposal, I will assume that what I am suggesting is uncontroversial and remove all three indicated images. Ambiguosity (talk) 06:39, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
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