Talk:MLS Cup 2010: Difference between revisions

Stop saying this is for the season champion.

This is the finals for the PLAYOFFS. P-L-A-Y-O-F-F-S. The regular season winner goes to the MLS Supporters' Shield WHICH is awarded by the MLS. Until you realize this, I will continue to change it to its CORRECT state. 72.219.227.230 (talk) 23:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I trust you have a source for this sentiment of yours, because every reference by MLS is that the MLS Cup is the league championship, not the playoff championship. But hey, thanks for confirming that you are not interested in discussing things as required by Wikipedia's guidelines. --Bobblehead ^(rants) 03:59, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

I have never heard the MLS Cup described as the Playoff Championship Trophy and agree that such an unusual description deserves a reference if it's going to be included. JohnInDC (talk) 04:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Agreed that tt is the season championship. The US is not England and the playoffs are not the FA Cup.Cptnono (talk) 07:04, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

The Cup final is the final match of the playoffs, but as far as I've read, it's considered to be the championship match for the season altogether. Unless there's something stating that is not, the current format seems fine to me. Twwalter (talk) 21:50, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, I'd like to add this point of reference from Major League Soccer's website, recapping the match. Below is an excerpt:

"TORONTO – Colorado Rapids, welcome to Major League Soccer royalty. After 15 seasons spent watching other league
original franchises carve their identities with success and silverware, Denver’s team is finally a league champion."[Source]

Further discussion here. JohnInDC (talk) 13:15, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Event section

I added an event section saying this is part of the MLS Playoffs. Please do not say it is part of the regular season. Twwalter (talk) 19:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Please stop trying to make the assertion that it is a separate competition. It has been explained to you by multiple editors and this is becoming tiresome. Anyways, it is an event unto itself so this isn't needed. Cptnono (talk) 21:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment: Why wouldn't we say the MLS Cup Final is part of the MLS Cup Playoffs? Quidster4040 (talk) 15:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, it is. It's their culmination. But the playoffs and final MLS Cup match are the way in which MLS determines its champion for the year. As with virtually all other major league sports in the US, the regular season is just an extended winnowing period for the championship run. There aren't separate "playoff" (i.e, "cup") and regular season champions. Just the one. It's sort of stupid, in that the team with the best regular season record (and thus presumably the "best" team) can fall out of this championship run early in the process and have no championship to show for its performance, but that's the way it works here. In MLS that team is awarded the Supporters' Shield in recognition of their regular season performance, but it's just a trophy, not a championship. The problem with the edit described above is the implication that the winner of the MLS Cup is "just" the playoff champion, or that the Cup is some kind of special, playoff-only championship. JohnInDC (talk) 16:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

So in that case, should the event say "2010 MLS season"? Or is it better just not adding an event section? 72.219.227.230 (talk) 15:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think a seven month season can really be described as an "event". I'd leave it out altogether. JohnInDC (talk) 15:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, understood. Gotta love MLS' mockery of other leagues. Oh well, just depends on the fans perspective. 72.219.227.230 (talk) 02:47, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Flags?

I know for other cup finals they have flags of the province or state the team hails from. Do you think we could try that? Add a Texas flag for FCD and a Colorado flag above the Rapids? Minor thought. Quidster4040 (talk) 15:55, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

State flags isn't how MLS denotes its teams. At most they have the US or Canadian flag and I've never seen them use the flags in association with the team names. At most they have the flag on the sleeve of their jerseys. --Bobblehead ^(rants) 17:57, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

So, in that aspect, it'd would be redundant. Quidster4040 (talk) 02:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)