Talk:Pwn: Difference between revisions

What happened to the derivative words section?

Seriously, it's gone. Why was it removed? Chad Okere dec 24th, 2005

Looks like it was removed by some random IP about a month ago. They also deleted the pronunciation stuff.

I'm not the random unregged user, but that section was crap. Seriously. I have never heard one of those words used online. Pwned and owned are the only variations that aren't highly obscure. 76.180.120.161 (talk) 05:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

WTFPWNED

Can we say something about "wtfpwned"? When I did a search for it, it brough me to this article. However, "wtfpwned" has a somewhat different meaning. When you pwned someone so bad that they didnt even know what happened (i.e. head-spinning pwned), it's called wtfpwned.Game Collector 01:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Trivial pwn mentions?

Is it necessary or even relevant to the needs of an encyclopedia to create a list of each and every mention of the word "pwn" in television and film? It seems very trivial to me, and only invites more of the same.

Corn pwned?

Possibly we should think about explaining the pwnage hierarchy, which has been verified as such: -pwn: explained

-uber pwn: to pwn extensively. Intentional pwnage by definition.

-corn pwn: Intentional, premeditated uberpwnage that may only occur once a year in the life of a gamer (although not specific to gaming-specific examples). Etymology stems from the colonial-era dish Corn Pone, and the humiliation the Native American tribes felt when they realized it was disgusting in texture and flavor. Thus, Corn Pone has not been eaten since 1701.

The distribution is decided by the Formed Aggregate Gamer Society to be: in all cases of Pwnage, 70% normal pwnage, 26% uberpwnage, and 3.9% corn pwnage. However there is one final term:

uber corn pwn: To corn pwn so definitively that merely observing the act of pwnage renders the viewer corn pwned him or herself. Hardly ever used do to unrealistic connotations; there have only been four cases of ubercornpwnage in recorded history since Pliny the Younger, and thus the term is in extreme danger of exiting the lexicon.

What do we think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.42.104 (talk) 01:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

pwn3d

shouldn't it be pronounced "pwenned" not "pwinned" cuz the 3 is an e in l33tspeak —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.128.34 (talk) 01:41, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Possible alternate etymology (and meaning) of pwn

This past summer, a co-worker of mine in his early twenties sent me his email address which used the word ‘pwned’. I asked him about how he came up with the name. He told me that ‘pwn’ was a gaming term and that it was used to indicate going beyond owning someone or something. He said that the spelling was determined by (intentionally) using the letter ‘p’ since it was the next letter in the alphabet after ‘o’.

Other than this statement I have no other support for this source. I am not even certain it can be verified.

Rod Lockwood (talk) 17:24, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. It can't be sourced. So why bring it up? I don't see why everyone seems to feel the need to repeat the same things over and over again. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:48, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

The best explanation to date:

This term actually comes from a game created hundreds of years ago, even before computers were invented. This game was called, 'chess'. The object of the game was to put the other player in checkmate, meaning, he was unable to move his king anywhere that he would not be threatened by another piece. Also in this game, you have 8 pieces at the front of your army called 'pawns', these were the least useful of all pieces, but that is not to mean they were worthless. If you could defeat the other player by using your pawn to apply check, that was called, and is still called pawned.

Now, back in the early 80's, before warcraft, counterstrike or even the INTERNET, there were ways you could contact other PC's by using a modem. These were called BBS's and allowed you to connect to individual computers acting as severs where games would be so that people could play other people they did not know. Now, when I used to play these games as well as many other people 22+, they used to use and coined the phrase, 'pwned'. Which was slang for pawned. It eventually was taken from just chess and used in other text based games to taunt the loser of a match. It is now commonly wide spread across the world, although the children do not understand its true meaning.

Saying it came from anywhere else is stating you're a poser for the fact you have no knowledge of gaming history and like to think you do so you make things up. Thanks.

Joe pawned/pwned Goerge along with his queen and knight.--Chess Player 20:30, 3 March 2008 (PST)

External Link not up to date

Link 4 should be this: http://www.lssu.edu/whats_new/articles.php?articleid=1188 The current list is not the one the article should point to. 12.218.153.85 (talk) 07:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

What the hell is this:

"It can also be used, especially by non-gamers, in the context of getting "pwned" by The Man."

'The Man'? Does this make any sense?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.161.170.255 (talk) 02:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Origin

the origins of the word pwn come from a warcraft map/scenario that was created

it was a spelling error in an automated message that popped up whenever you lost a match

e.g if you are the orcs and you are beaten by the elves

the message will say " you were pwned by the elves"

its called google people.

learn to use it

S02178 (talk) 01:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC) s02178

Perhaps before calling other Wikipedians "idiots" you should think a little more about what you're going to write, and if you do write something, provide refs. Furthermore, I remember playing Starcraft and people using it then, which predated Warcraft so I think you had best check your sources. -- Librarianofages (talk) 01:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Lol ok. you tell me to provide references and attack me with a claim that starcraft used it before warcraft, yet you dont have any references yourself. and i would provide some but i am at work and i have limited web accessS02178 (talk) 01:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC) s02178

Check out Leet#Owned_and_Pwned: Fully details with reference where Pwned and as an extention pwn came from. You'll find that by the time the map in WC3 used it, it was merely one of the words in 1337. -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 04:34, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was possible that the word came from Phrack World News. Why is it's origin as a typo given as known fact? Is it actually known? Carlo (talk) 15:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid you're very wrong. The word "Pwn" began back before Warcraft was even around. It was originally a Starsiege Tribes message forum typo.

Rumor of the Creation

One thing that i have seen come up from tmie to time is that some people believe that the word pwned originated from the Warcraft III game Defence of the Ancients when the creator misspelled "owned".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajin71506 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 

pwn is pronounced pawn —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadowpeach03 (talk • contribs) 01:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

pwn is pronounced pawn, jesse krislov. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadowpeach03 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciacion by comparison to welsh words

It seems to me that the article's reference to obscure welsh words is out of place. I find the idea of 'w' as a vowel in an english word fascinating and its worthy of note in the article. But common sense tells me that if the 'pwnd' shares no etimological background with those obscure welsh words, then they would have nothing to do with its pronunciation.

perhaps there is a better place in the article for the factoid that there are few other words in English that use w as a vowel, where this fact is not confused with the arguments about pronunciation.

Headybrew (talk) 23:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Owned

All the P in this word represents is a mouth with a tongue sticking out to further taught the owned. :-) ;-p. Mostly in text form, and spoken like "owned." Majorly owned. Now you get it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickyflip (talk • contribs) 18:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation "pone" is common amongst who?

The article states "pone", "pawn", and "pownt" are pronunciations used by newbie gamers, hackers, etc. What the hell? Nearly everyone I've ever discussed this word with has pronounced it "pone"; and even if the word likely derived from a typo of "owned", the 'p' should still be taken into consideration. The sentence in the article beginning with "The alternate pronunciation..." should be taken out completely, or modified to account for the fact that most gamers do say "pone". I'm lead to think a cast member from Pure Pwnage typed out that entire section.

Chrome89 (talk) 23:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Robot chicken pronounces this word poon (the 'welsh' way) see http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=d920516b180819d626000a96913a7109 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.196.53 (talk) 09:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Pwn = Poon

The urban dictionary has THEE BEST definition of pwn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Archervixen (talk • contribs) 23:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)