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:Agreed. The fact that the Chinese adapted their word for distilled spirits to include grape wine (''jiu''), suggests that grape wine is a relatively recent concept in China compared to Europe. And I wouldn't consider about.com to be a reliable source. It has some reliable writers, but pretty much anyone can become a writer for about.com; it's more or less user-generated content. ~[[User:Amatulic|Amatulić]] <small>([[User talk:Amatulic#top|talk]])</small> 05:14, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
:Agreed. The fact that the Chinese adapted their word for distilled spirits to include grape wine (''jiu''), suggests that grape wine is a relatively recent concept in China compared to Europe. And I wouldn't consider about.com to be a reliable source. It has some reliable writers, but pretty much anyone can become a writer for about.com; it's more or less user-generated content. ~[[User:Amatulic|Amatulić]] <small>([[User talk:Amatulic#top|talk]])</small> 05:14, 25 June 2016 (UTC)


Exactly. It's funny how the Wikipedia page for Tea makes clear that tea should be from tea leaves (ie genus Camellia..), and that a "tea" made with other leaves, fruit, flowers is just an "infusion" but somehow alcohol made from things other than grapes can be called wine. As stated above, this claim of "wine" in China is simply because some people would like an easy, direct, non-nuanced translation for the Chinese word "jiu" (酒). But this word certainly means alcoholic drink. Wine is putaojiu. So... why should there be mention of "a similar alcoholic drink" from China in the "History" section of this article? [[User:Spettro9|Spettro9]] ([[User talk:Spettro9|talk]]) 09:03, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Exactly. It's funny how the Wikipedia page for Tea makes clear that tea should be from tea leaves (ie genus Camellia..), and that a "tea" made with other leaves, fruit, flowers is just an "infusion" but somehow alcohol made from things other grapes can be called wine. As stated above, this claim of "wine" in China is simply because some people would like an easy, direct, non-nuanced translation for the Chinese word "jiu" (酒). But this word certainly means alcoholic drink. Wine is putaojiu. So... why should there be mention of "a similar alcoholic drink" from China in the "History" section of this article? [[User:Spettro9|Spettro9]] ([[User talk:Spettro9|talk]]) 09:03, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


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