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::Per [[MOS:BIO]], the full title gets used in the lede sentence. Thereafter, we use his surname. Most of your edit changed the titles of newspaper articles used as references, and broke the link to the Scots Wikipedia. |
::Per [[MOS:BIO]], the full title gets used in the lede sentence. Thereafter, we use his surname. Most of your edit changed the titles of newspaper articles used as references, and broke the link to the Scots Wikipedia. |
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::The title of this article should be the name by which Field is best known. Undoubtedly, he is best known with the title.- |
::The title of this article should be the name by which Field is best known. Undoubtedly, he is best known with the title.-<font face="cursive" color="#808080">[[User talk:gadfium|gadfium]]</font> 05:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC) |
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==Samoan Community comments== |
==Samoan Community comments== |
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As it is, this is unsourced opinion and inappropriate because essentially it is editorial-type comment. But perhaps this should be discussed here and some compromise achieved, with, say, some quotes on both sides of the issue. Not all Samoan leaders support Philip Field and this should probably be reflected in the entry, if indeed any of it is appropriate. I have reproduced the comments in full here so there can be a proper discussion. [[User:Kiwimw|Kiwimw]] 18:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC) |
As it is, this is unsourced opinion and inappropriate because essentially it is editorial-type comment. But perhaps this should be discussed here and some compromise achieved, with, say, some quotes on both sides of the issue. Not all Samoan leaders support Philip Field and this should probably be reflected in the entry, if indeed any of it is appropriate. I have reproduced the comments in full here so there can be a proper discussion. [[User:Kiwimw|Kiwimw]] 18:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:I agree this should not be in the article. Appropriate and sourced quotes could be used instead.- |
:I agree this should not be in the article. Appropriate and sourced quotes could be used instead.-<font face="cursive" color="#808080">[[User talk:gadfium|gadfium]]</font> 18:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC) |
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The angle taken in editing out the text I wrote suggests that just because some Samoan leaders do not support Taito, that therefore the article is not a credible piece of writing or opinion that is worth displaying. Like your discussion on whether the matai name Taito should be used or not, there will not be uniform agreement on issues such as these. The importance of displaying this article / text is to show that public opinion will always be based on peoples perception and their analyses of a situation. And factual material while useful and contributes to knowledge would be of limited use especially in what would be an important change in the thinking of, in this particular case, the Samoan community. The fact that Maori have shown interest politically in Taito to join them is not just a passing phase. It will develop. I say put the text back please. [[User:Fatugalelei|Fatugalelei]] 01:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)01:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC) |
The angle taken in editing out the text I wrote suggests that just because some Samoan leaders do not support Taito, that therefore the article is not a credible piece of writing or opinion that is worth displaying. Like your discussion on whether the matai name Taito should be used or not, there will not be uniform agreement on issues such as these. The importance of displaying this article / text is to show that public opinion will always be based on peoples perception and their analyses of a situation. And factual material while useful and contributes to knowledge would be of limited use especially in what would be an important change in the thinking of, in this particular case, the Samoan community. The fact that Maori have shown interest politically in Taito to join them is not just a passing phase. It will develop. I say put the text back please. [[User:Fatugalelei|Fatugalelei]] 01:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)01:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:The material is not suitable for Wikipedia because it is an opinion. We try not to include opinions in our articles unless we are quoting someone, with a reference, and then we also look to provide a balancing quote.- |
:The material is not suitable for Wikipedia because it is an opinion. We try not to include opinions in our articles unless we are quoting someone, with a reference, and then we also look to provide a balancing quote.-<font face="cursive" color="#808080">[[User talk:gadfium|gadfium]]</font> 02:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC) |
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==Status of the Pacific Party== |
==Status of the Pacific Party== |