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== "Zumba®" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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Looks to me as if Zumba is a commercial rip-off of the Brazilian dance Axé [[Special:Contributions/83.83.7.253|83.83.7.253]] ([[User talk:83.83.7.253|talk]]) 20:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect [[:Zumba®]] and has thus listed it [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|for discussion]]. This discussion will occur at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 15#Zumba®]] until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 05:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
:Agree. I just participated in one section yesterday, and I had never heard about it before. Knowing Axe, and all of this stuff, I can say that Zumba is really good! they just put the right package, and the right latin songs and dance into it! [[User:Mlonguin|Mlonguin]] ([[User talk:Mlonguin|talk]]) 23:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


== Mapeh ==
== combine with aerobic exercise ==


Dance is two indoor alternative recreation for those who enjoy the beat of rhythm and movement it is a fantastic and fun form of exercise that gradually raises heart rate that's why dance is very good cardio work out regular participation and dance activity tightness and tones muscle groups and burns more calories [[Special:Contributions/158.62.66.93|158.62.66.93]] ([[User talk:158.62.66.93|talk]]) 05:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
Aside from the type of music, Zumba dancing/exercise does not appear to be significantly different from Jazzercise, cardio-kickboxing, or any of the other instructor lead gym exercise courses.
--[[Special:Contributions/67.112.121.72|67.112.121.72]] ([[User talk:67.112.121.72|talk]]) 06:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

the wiki page looks like an advertisement, should this be deleted? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/91.152.123.110|91.152.123.110]] ([[User talk:91.152.123.110|talk]]) 07:04, 9 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Links aren't sources, article reads like an ad, except that ads are more compelling.

To sum it up: "Article" is shit. In longer form: Please, someone, mark this as advertisement. I actually came here to learn about "Zumba", and what my friends were busy with. And instead I get the kind of crap you feed employees (tripe below that which is fed to customers). I am not in the mood for a revert war, "entrepreneurs", so, please pay someone to write you some richer wikispam, or a least say what I said more kindly.--[[Special:Contributions/68.53.75.242|68.53.75.242]] ([[User talk:68.53.75.242|talk]]) 08:12, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, just wondering? How can almost anything that involves moving oneself's legs or arms be called '''dance'''? IMO, only ridiculous. [[Special:Contributions/82.141.118.38|82.141.118.38]] ([[User talk:82.141.118.38|talk]]) 09:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

LOL, how about you try it first, before you slam it as not being exercise? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.136.32.98|71.136.32.98]] ([[User talk:71.136.32.98|talk]]) 04:09, 17 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Zumba is extraordinarily popular, so it deserves an article. This article has a bit of an advertising vibe though, and I deleted an external reference that really WAS advertising. As someone with a little experience in Latin and international dance, and having just attended my first few meetings of Zumba class, I think it would be great to add more detailed comparison/contrast with dance, and any info on exercise value. I don't have enough data points myself yet to attempt this. [[User:Anaphalis|Anaphalis]] ([[User talk:Anaphalis|talk]]) 23:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

==Vandalism==
Who ever has vandalised this article should know that it is not an option to write his personal opinion as article. That's what Discussion is for. I just reverse the changes, as the previous article doesn't sound to bad to me.[[User:DeepCommons|DeepCommons]] ([[User talk:DeepCommons|talk]]) 12:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

==Past edits==
If you restore text from a previous edit, please check for copyright violations.

Past edits which include the phrase "A Zumba workout mixes body sculpting movements with dance steps derived" are likely copyright violations, as are versions with the phrase "It was founded by Miami-based dancer and choreographer." I say "likely" as the original source may have been released under a Wiki-compatible license, or possibly but not likely, that Wikipedia was the original source. From the looks of things these phrases are probably part of widely-copied marketing copy. [[User:davidwr|davidwr]]/<small><small>([[User_talk:davidwr|talk]])/([[Special:Contributions/Davidwr|contribs]])/([[Special:Emailuser/davidwr|e-mail]])</small></small> 13:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

== Merging in Alberto Perlman ==

[[Alberto Perlman]] is largely known for only one thing and likely doesn't qualify for his own article. Even if he does, the project is better served with content related to him being in this article.

Due to a pending [[WP:AFD]] discussion the merger should not happen until after the discussion is complete and then only if Zumba is kept. [[User:davidwr|davidwr]]/<small><small>([[User_talk:davidwr|talk]])/([[Special:Contributions/Davidwr|contribs]])/([[Special:Emailuser/davidwr|e-mail]])</small></small> 18:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

== Rewrite ==
I rewrote the article and removed the advert tag. The new article addressed those concerns. [[User:Michellecatin|Michellecatin]] ([[User talk:Michellecatin|talk]]) 22:12, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

== Update ==
Updated with current statistics.[[User:Agome028|Agome028]] ([[User talk:Agome028|talk]]) 20:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Removed external link: * [http://www.zumbakeanda.co.uk Zumba Fitness Lincolnshire] since this is not an official Zumba site.[[User:Agome028|Agome028]] ([[User talk:Agome028|talk]]) 11:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Correction ==
Corrected typo [[User:Agome028|Agome028]] ([[User talk:Agome028|talk]]) 21:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

==Rewrite==
Reverted article to previous revisions i had made. Someone went in and made changes causing article to get advert flag. Removed advert flag [[User:Michellecatin|Michellecatin]] ([[User talk:Michellecatin|talk]]) 21:32, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I also kept the copy of the video game mention. [[User:Michellecatin|Michellecatin]] ([[User talk:Michellecatin|talk]]) 21:44, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

== wichtige mitteilung ==

Zumba hiiiie, Zumba hooo - Zumba gehört nach Mexiko. Esleb eichni edermiteu chfreihe itfü rdieölsa rdine <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.73.133.158|88.73.133.158]] ([[User talk:88.73.133.158|talk]]) 13:55, 9 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Zumba aerobics vs Zumba the company ==

I continue to try to add more information about Zumba the company -- which I thought this article was about, but Bhny keeps deleting it.
Should we split the articles in to two? One article about the company, which is doing a lot (merchandise, wii game, etc.) and one about the "dance" <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:John.s.hager|John.s.hager]] ([[User talk:John.s.hager|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/John.s.hager|contribs]]) 21:27, 22 November 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

The first time this stuff was added it was copied and pasted straight from the web site. Now it seems to be copied from other articles. Either way it's not very interesting stuff and is written in a promotional style instead of something suitable for an encyclopedia article. We don't need a whole section to tell us that is sells promotional "tank tops, shoes and flip flops". The Classes section actually duplicated much of the Exercises section, I guess you made a mistake there.[[User:Bhny|Bhny]] ([[User talk:Bhny|talk]]) 21:45, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

OK, I made a new product section and added back some of your info, like not charging a licensing fee. Basically this article has to be pretty dry, if someone wants the full marketing speak they should go to zumba.com [[User:Bhny|Bhny]] ([[User talk:Bhny|talk]]) 22:08, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Also wikipedia doesn't usually include planned products (like the game) only things that are currently released [[User:Bhny|Bhny]] ([[User talk:Bhny|talk]]) 22:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

The article gives no views against the use of Zumba. Zumba is of limited value as far as health benefits are concerned.
There's nothing wrong with making money though of course. However Wikipedia shouldn't advertise. If that is putting my point too strongly then apologies to all who are concerned. [[User:Fletcherbrian|Fletcherbrian]] ([[User talk:Fletcherbrian|talk]]) 10:26, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Are there published articles about the limited benefits? [[User:Bhny|Bhny]] ([[User talk:Bhny|talk]]) 00:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

== Zumba Class Count? ==

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the official website under the About Zumba Classes say six different classes but list seven? It's also in the article (under exercises). Maybe I'm missing somthing? Thanx! [[User:ReelAngelGirl|ReelAngelGirl]] ([[User talk:ReelAngelGirl|talk]]) 22:00, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, changed it [[User:Bhny|Bhny]] ([[User talk:Bhny|talk]]) 22:10, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

== Section ''Prostitution'' ==

I fail to see why isolated cases have been added in a section. I doubt there is an unsually high prevalence of prostitutes among Zumba trainers. The section should be removed. [[User:O.Koslowski|O.Koslowski]] ([[User talk:O.Koslowski|talk]]) 17:17, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
:According to the references I provided (and thousands more in reputable newspapers worldwide), it WAS highly prevalent. In one case, over a hundred men from one small town were charged with being johns, including the former mayor, lawyers, and police. This is very notable not only for the prostitution charges but also for the corruption of high level officials. Zumba has some explaining to do and their silence on the matter is suspicious[[User:Takethemdown|Takethemdown]] ([[User talk:Takethemdown|talk]]) 17:23, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
:: Since when is heavy.com a reliable source? Come back with the reputable newspapers worldwide and perhaps an analysis that shows that these are not isolated incidents but that this is something systemic. [[User:O.Koslowski|O.Koslowski]] ([[User talk:O.Koslowski|talk]]) 17:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
:: If you have any reliable sources which explain that the prevalence of prostitution connected with Zumba is ''significantly'' greater than the prevalence of prostitution in other settings, or even just in other widespread exercise programs, state this clearly in the text. Otherwise I vote to delete this section altogether. A few isolated incidents, even if one of them was a really big deal, aren't enough to justify putting this here as if the connection is intentional. [[User:Psychojosh13|Psychojosh13]] ([[User talk:Psychojosh13|talk]]) 18:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
:::In wikipedia's own page on [[Zumba]] it states that there are 217 employees. The media has revealed serious prostitution charges against these two. That's about 1% of their company roster. Aside from the sex industry itself, I'm not aware of any other business or industry where so many people are hookers or pimps. We need to teach them a lesson and show the world what they're up to.
::::"We need to teach them a lesson and show the world what they're up to." We do? Why? And how will an article that can be edited by just anybody teach them that lesson? But besides that, two people out of 217 is too small a number to make a meaningful inference. If those two people both got fired from the Zumba corporation and moved to some other company with only 100 employees, and continued prostituting on the side, then that new company now has about a ''2%'' rate of employees being prostitutes. Is the new company to blame? [[User:Psychojosh13|Psychojosh13]] ([[User talk:Psychojosh13|talk]]) 15:38, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Also I added more links from even more reputable news sources, some from overseas showing this is big news. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Takethemdown|Takethemdown]] ([[User talk:Takethemdown|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Takethemdown|contribs]]) 18:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Zumba instructors are not Zumba employees. Do the math. 217 employees; 110,000 locations doing Zumba instruction; 12 million people. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|::==( o )]]</small></sup> 19:55, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

a large swath of the population had never heard the term until the scandal broke. like it or not, "zumba" is now being used sarcastically in such expressions as "getting a zumba". while prostitution may rightly have been limited to one small franchise, the entire chain/movement is now tainted by it.

how about an isolated section titled "Allegations in Kennebunk, ME Branch" or the like? that's how other wikis handle similar issues.

or a link to a dedicated wiki of that sort. is one going up? [[Special:Contributions/66.105.218.20|66.105.218.20]] ([[User talk:66.105.218.20|talk]]) 00:54, 27 October 2012 (UTC)


It would at least be something interesting on this boring article [[User:Bhny|Bhny]] ([[User talk:Bhny|talk]]) 23:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

==Beto Perez wikipedia page==
Hi! I thought it would be pertinent to have an actual page for the creator of Zumba, Beto Perez. That is why I've created a stub: [[Beto Perez]]. It's super short and probably still contains formating (and English?) mistakes (sorry about that, I'm new here and English is mot my first language, French is). Do you also think this person should have a wiki page? Maybe not? Then why? If yes, maybe you can help to expand the article. (Probably this conversation should continue in the page concerned, [[Beto Perez]]) Thanks! [[User:MaEve|MaEve]] ([[User talk:MaEve|talk]]) 02:55, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

: There should only be an article about him if he is notable- [[WP:N]] and also that there are reliable sources [[WP:RS]] about him. I've googled Zumba and found nearly everything is a press release. It's hard to find any good sources on this or Perez. Sometimes a person isn't notable outside an organisation so an article about them isn't needed. [[User:Bhny|Bhny]] ([[User talk:Bhny|talk]]) 13:43, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

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Dance is two indoor alternative recreation for those who enjoy the beat of rhythm and movement it is a fantastic and fun form of exercise that gradually raises heart rate that's why dance is very good cardio work out regular participation and dance activity tightness and tones muscle groups and burns more calories 158.62.66.93 (talk) 05:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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