Template talk:WikiProject Biography: Difference between revisions

Migrate living parameter to banner shell

MSGJ Is there anything similar in place for Category:Biography articles without living parameter? -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:04, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Not yet, might be worth exploring though! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:51, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

That category is fairly empty in part because I've been keeping an eye on it and adding the parameter manually. |blp=/|living= exists in Template:WikiProject banner shell at least. I guess if the two templates have and =no that should be flagged as a conflict somewhere. If it's explictly set (i.e. not blank) in the banner but not here, the WikiProject template could inherit it? Not sure about the other way round. I'm also assuming the only WikiProject which cares about it would be Biography. -Kj cheetham (talk) 08:54, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Should we attempt to standardise, either on |living= or |blp=? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:13, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Is there a benefit to that? If so, my feeling is go for |living= simply because what's what this WikiProject has. One is just an alias for the other in the banner shell anyway. https://bambots.brucemyers.com/TemplateParam.php?wiki=enwiki&template=WikiProject+banner+shell wasn't much help trying to check which is more common. -Kj cheetham (talk) 13:24, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I've had a look at the code and thought about it. The {{{living|{{{blp|{{{BLP|}}}}}}}}} parameters are checked 6 times for different purposes. I can replace it with code that checks for the blp parameter in {{WikiProject banner shell}} but it is quite resource-intensive (needs to read and analyse the text on the whole page) so I would not want to do that 6 times on every page. Might have to write a little Lua module to do it once and then call the banner module directly. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:18, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Update. I have simplified the code and remove what seemed to be some unnecessary uses of the |living= parameter. (The "image needed" note displayed an extra warning about getting images of living people, and the "politician work group" was automatically triggered if |activepol=yes and they were also living.) If these changes are not opposed, then we only need to check the page content twice (once for "living" and once for "blp") and I think we can start moving this parameter to the banner shell. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:54, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Maybe as a compromise |activepol=yes could trigger the "politician work group" whether they are living or not? -Kj cheetham (talk) 14:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I have done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

/class

The following code uses the obsolete subtemplate Template:WikiProject Biography/class to populate Category:Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Biography articles. Is this tracking category still needed? If so, I will find a different way of tracking these. If not, can I remove this code?

|note 15={{#switch:{{WikiProject Biography/class|class={{{class|}}}}}|FA|A|GA|B|C|Start|Stub|FL|List={{{class|}}}}}
 |NOTE_15_CAT            = {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Talk||Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Biography articles}}
|note 16={{#ifeq:{{WikiProject Biography/class|class={{{class|}}}}}|Category|{{{class|}}}}}
 |NOTE_16_CAT            = {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Category talk||Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Biography articles}}
|note 17={{#ifeq:{{WikiProject Biography/class|class={{{class|}}}}}|Template|{{{class|}}}}}
 |NOTE_17_CAT            = {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Template talk||Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Biography articles}}

— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

 Removed — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:00, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

@MSGJ: Should the category also be deleted? GoingBatty (talk) 15:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Loosks like that category is still used by note 10, unless people think that is no longer needed — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:09, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested photo text

I recall that the requested photo parameter, when used, used to generate more detailed information about obtaining photos for BLPs. It's much simpler now (although I can't manage to get the revision history to work given all the changes in the area). Was that intentional, or were important details lost as part of the standardization that we should seek to restore? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:07, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

"T:WPBIO" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect T:WPBIO has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 26 § T:WPBIO until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Erroneous NOINDEX

For instance, Talk:Enzo Turco is given __NOINDEX__ (as shown by its placement in Category:Noindexed pages) even though blp=no is specified. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)