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DYK for Eric Sievers

On 8 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eric Sievers, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Eric Sievers helped the San Diego Chargers set an NFL record for receptions by tight ends on a team? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eric Sievers. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Eric Sievers), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

WaggersTALK 00:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Citogenesis- you replying to my topic 'Overzealous editing to have article in the news section of the main page'

Thank you for relying to the topic 'Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 110#Overzealous editing to have article in the news section of the main page'

When Louis Gossett Jr died I forgot to put a project of his named Backstairs at the White House in the lede. I didn't pick up on it right away, but at one point I did notice most obituaries weren't mentioning it.

Your reply was an eye opener. Yes I did notice things like that while the user didn't lie, the person would put a completely false citation to confirm a project.

This is something I had to correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Louis_Gossett_Jr.&diff=prev&oldid=1220827473 The citation did not mention that specific project.

Louis Gossett Jr. was a wonderful artist/actor and much of his later work was overlooked. I just think the user wanted to highlight, but there are many strange edits.

Filmman3000 (talk) 05:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Filmman3000: Thanks for the message. I'm sure sometimes it's an honest mistake, while other times it appears to just be leaving a citation to give the appearance that WP:ITNQUALITY is met. Regards. —Bagumba (talk) 15:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba I think the user wanted Gossett to be in the WP:ITNQUALITY, and wanted the media to pick up on his later work.

But the user didn't do it right, if I can't pick up on something I leave it blank.

I am looking at the user's page and history, it appears the user has a history of rushing to pages about the dearly departed to have them in the news section. I am looking at the M. Emmet Walsh page and there is similar pattern of having several citation for one sentence, but I don't know if that user used random citations to put forward forgotten projects. Filmman3000 (talk) 03:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

@Filmman3000: If you believe it is a consistent issue with a user, consider addressing it directly with them per Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, ideally with some diffs of the edits in question. If that doesn't lead anywhere, perhaps tagging such pages and commenting at WP:ITNC would provide them an incentive to improve, resulting in more timely postings of nominated items.—Bagumba (talk) 06:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes I will address the user directly at one point Filmman3000 (talk) 04:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Sponsor names

What you are saying over there makes a lot of sense to me, and you are articulating it better than I could have. Since it started at WikiProject Baseball, but the topic is really larger in scope than that, what's the procedure for starting a request for input on defining some sort of policy regarding this? I know you noticed the topic I started at WT:SPORTS, so should I start a new, more formal request for discussion there? I've never attempted anything like this, so I'm looking for guidance from more experienced people. Thanks.Fred Zepelin (talk) 20:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

@Fred Zepelin: I've never campaigned for a new guideline, though I may have boldly tweaked a few or started a talk discussion. Often, some are against guidelines being too prescriptive, and this would be a very niche area. This is not always followed, but WP:PROPOSAL says:

Most commonly, a new policy or guideline documents existing practices, rather than proposing a change to what experienced editors already choose to do.

You might just want to see if an agreement can be reached in baseball that you're satisfied with. Then you can boldly expand it to other projects incrementally, and iteratively discuss if objections come up. That might be more collaborative, and avoid people resisting simply because they feel its been shoved down their throat. That said, there is no single recipe for this. Good luck, and feel free to contact me any time. —Bagumba (talk) 03:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I do feel like keeping it just to baseball articles is a weird line to draw - like, the article where the other editor objected was the Japan Series, and he moved a discussion to the baseball talk page. I would've done it at Sports, where I started the other topic you replied to. I'll try reading some more policy pages to figure it out. Thanks for the help. Fred Zepelin (talk) 03:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

@Fred Zepelin: Sometimes too many cooks in the kitchen can spoil the stew too. But it can help to expand the audience sometimes. Best. —Bagumba (talk) 04:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

User creating the same article over and over again

Hi. This user has created Rangimarie Dougall-Mita multiple times since 2023, with the page either being deleted or moved to draft space (most recent one here). Each time they have created the article, it has been of the same quality: one line lead with an infobox and no sources. Talk page notices don't appear to be having any effect. Is there a way to stop a specific page from being created? Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

WP:SALTing the title is an option, but it's somewhat excessive if its just an issue with one account. There also a partial block, blocking an account from all edits on a page(s). Being that it's been a year since the last one, I'd say wait and assume they get the message this time. Let me know if that isnt the case. —Bagumba (talk) 18:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

New Max Arosev sock

That Eoek account is a new sock of Max Arosev. They made some minor edits, but their significant edits are the same as the ones added by the last sock, Xkpsy. JimKaatFan (talk) 20:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)