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Navboxes

Please stop converting navboxes back to the dots and away from the list formatting, per WP:HLIST. --IznoRepeat (talk) 17:19, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, please stop changing the capitalization. That's generally inappropriate for navboxes. --IznoRepeat (talk) 17:01, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

MOS

Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters: "Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization. Most capitalization is for proper names or for acronyms and initialisms. Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is a proper name". Some of your recent edits to templates and article ledes may have to be reverted.

Note that unjustified removal of citations, links and sidebars (List of political parties in Venezuela, Anarchism, Fascism, List of ongoing military conflicts) could be construed as vandalism. Please explain your edits, either on talk pages or in edit summaries. Also don't remove red links; sometimes, those serve to indicate that an ambiguity is well-known, and a page needs to be written. --Omnipaedista (talk) 03:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

"Civil War"

I noted that you have renamed the template title (here) about the Colombia civil armed confict to 'Civil War'. Your edit has been reverted. Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is a proper title in such cases. --04:27, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Bold type

Do not bold-face foreign terms as you did here. Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section#Foreign language: "Do not boldface foreign names not normally used in English, or variations included only to show etymology". --Omnipaedista (talk) 04:27, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

merge discussion

You need to state why you believe it should be merged on the talk page of the article you want it merged to.Talk:Before_Watchmen#merge_discussion Dream Focus 22:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Pan-Arabism

Please stop deleting the hatnote from the top of the article. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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Namibia

Hi Charles, I reverted your headline changes in the article Namibia. There certainly could be better headline wording, but your choices did in my opinion not improve the article (e.g., prehistory is normally used for the time before human settlement, South African Namibia is an oxymoron because the South Africans were suppressing the name "Namibia", and under German colonialisation the name "Namibia" did not yet exist).

Please discuss such changes on the talk page first, particularly for top-importance Wikipedia articles. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 03:59, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

North Korea

The state ideology of North Korea is Juche, the ideology of the Workers' Party of Korea is Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism. --TIAYN (talk) 20:43, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

STOP MOVING ARTICLES

And [1] is about your VERY misguided efforts. --Niemti (talk) 03:04, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Recent moves

Can you please explain why are you performing controversial moves without seeking consensus? A threat at the Administrator's noticeboard about you has been opened. I suggest you to please elaborate about such actions there. Thanks. — ṞṈ 03:05, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Moves without consensus, discussion, or explanation

Please stop moving pages without any sort of prior discussion, or even explanation, as to why. You recently moved 1991 uprisings in Iraq without any sort of discussion, and it appears to be something you've been doing elsewhere. Please stop this. In this case, go to the talk page of the article, and start a discussion, and only move it if you find consensus for the move. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 15:25, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Militaries by Country

There are two sections on the Militaries by Country list. One is for countries and the other is for territores. So please leave it alone! tom991

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World Uygur Youth Congress

Hi Charles,

I revert to World Uygur Youth Congress, which is the organization which has been officially designated. We can not presume that World Uygur Congress is designated as well (or find a good reference that both names refer to the same group, not a subgroup). See http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/xw/t56257.htm Nicolas1981 (talk) 04:12, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Some references URL unreachable

Hi Charles,

Thanks for your contributions to List of designated terrorist organizations! Unfortunately, two of the references you cited seem to not exist anymore: http://www.cdi.org http://www.guardiacivil.org/terrorismo/grupos/lista.jsp

If you could find where these pages have been moved that would be great! Meanwhile I had to revert.

Keep up the great work! Nicolas1981 (talk) 02:38, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Iraqi insurgency

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Constant moves of historical and war articles by a single user with no consensus regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

I notice you moved Iraqi insurgency (post-U.S. withdrawal) to a new name without ANY FORM of discussion or consensus on the subject. You should go to the talk page of the article, start a discussion, and only move it if you find consensus for the move. I see from the messages above and your edit history that you are doing this a lot, so as a precaution I am adding your user name to the Administrator's noticeboard pending possible actions against the account. Skycycle (talk) 15:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Please respond to the above at WP:ANI#Constant moves of historical and war articles by a single user with no consensus. Failure to respond could result in sanctions, including loss of editing privileges. KillerChihuahua 22:56, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. Consider yourself under a self-imposed ban from moving articles. I suggest in the future you be more responsive to other editors' concerns; it should not take an ANI thread and an admin telling you that you risk losing editing privileges for you to respond to others. Try to work more with your fellow editors, respect their concerns, and discuss disagreements with them. KillerChihuahua 00:11, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Benin

Please justify re-adding Benin to the infobox on the talk page, I justified removing it. --Golbez (talk) 01:33, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Single-party state

Similar issues as with a previous article above:

Please stop deleting the hatnote from the top of the article. Thank you.

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ANI notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Appalling POV merging by Emmette Hernandez Coleman of Flag of WS/Flag of the SADR. Thank you. —Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 07:39, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Sahrawi_Arab_Democratic_Republic#Move?

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For editing Donghak Peasant Revolution, although not being a bot or AWB. Seonoo of Kim (ANSWER IN MY T.A.L.K. P.A.G.E!!!!!!!!!) 07:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Categorizing articles into Category:Political parties in South Africa

Hi Charles, I see you've added a bunch of articles to Category:Political parties in South Africa that are already members of Category:Defunct political parties in South Africa. The thing is, the "defunct" category is a subcategory of the main category, so articles in the "defunct" category shouldn't also be included in the main category. This is explained at Wikipedia:Categorization#Categorizing pages, which says, "In addition, each categorized page should be placed in all of the most specific categories to which it logically belongs. This means that if a page belongs to a subcategory of C (or a subcategory of a subcategory of C, and so on) then it is not normally placed directly into C." Regards - htonl (talk) 17:20, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello, same with sub-categories of Category:Political parties in Egypt. Articles that are already members of Category:Coalitions of parties in Egypt, Category:Communist parties in Egypt‎ Category:Defunct political parties in Egypt‎, Category:Islamic parties in Egypt‎, or Category:Liberal parties in Egypt‎ should not additionally be directly included in the main category. Could you please revert your own edits to restore the old order. Thank you. Kind regards --RJFF (talk) 17:29, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello Charles,

it has been explained to you more than once: please do not add higher level categories to an article, if the page is already in a sub-category of this category. If it is in the sub-category, it is automatically also in the superordinated category. Thank you. --RJFF (talk) 09:54, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I have undone some of your edits, but I do not have the time to undo all of them. Could you please undo yourself? (Tunisian, Bulgarian and Iraqi parties) Thanks. --RJFF (talk) 09:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Again! Why are you doing this? Can you please stop? --RJFF (talk) 18:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Hatnotes

Please do not move hatnotes under maintenance templates. Per WP:Hatnote#Placement:

Hatnotes are placed at the very top of the article, before any other items such as images, navigational templates and maintenance templates (like the "cleanup", "unreferenced", and "POV" templates). Text-only browsers and screen readers present the page sequentially. If a reader has reached the wrong page, they typically want to know that first.

Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:38, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Use of derviative works templates

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TemplateData is here

Hey Charles Essie

I'm sending you this because you've made quite a few edits to the template namespace in the past couple of months. If I've got this wrong, or if I haven't but you're not interested in my request, don't worry; this is the only notice I'm sending out on the subject :).

So, as you know (or should know - we sent out a centralnotice and several watchlist notices) we're planning to deploy the VisualEditor on Monday, 1 July, as the default editor. For those of us who prefer markup editing, fear not; we'll still be able to use the markup editor, which isn't going anywhere.

What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.

The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:01, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Massacres in Afghanistan

I see that you added a bunch of items to the category "Category:Massacres in Afghanistan."

Massacres are an intentional or indiscriminate killing of a group of people who should not have been targeted. Accidents and fog-of-war incidents are not massacres. The sinking of the Titanic was not a massacre, no matter how much negligence one might want to attribute to it. Neither was the 2007 Shinwar shooting. These various incidents had all been investigated. Bad things happen in war, which is why legitimate armies wear uniforms, and why legitimate critics were supposed to demand that insurgents distinguish themselves from civilians.

This has been discussed before, and it was eventually decided to create a separate category for these other incidents. That's why we have the cat for "Category:Civilian casualties in the War in Afghanistan (2001–present)."

I realize that some people like to make moral judgments, and call a tragedy a "massacre" because it feels wrong when you don't look at the entire picture. But, if you'll notice, the same people who claim to care about these things had been unwilling to demand insurgents follow the laws of war. Had they cared enough to have done that, many of these very incidents would never have happened.

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I'm not sure I entirely understand your grievance, could you please explain it to me. Charles Essie (talk) 17:25, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:2011_Kurdish_protests_in_Iraq

Hi Charles! It would be very helpful if you could drop by Talk:2011_Kurdish_protests_in_Iraq#merge and give your input. Thanks! ~ Zirguezi 19:15, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Charles. Just thank you for creating Category:People of the Iranian Revolution. Cheers.Farhikht (talk) 09:01, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Arab nationalists category

Hey Charles, just want to inform you that I've been removing the category "Arab nationalists" from various articles, including that of Gamal Abdel Nasser, because it's redundant. Articles that already have cats such as "Arab nationalist blank" or "blank Arab nationalists" don't require the additional inclusion of the parent category, which is "Arab nationalists." With Nasser, because we already have "Arab nationalist heads of state", "Arab nationalist thinkers" and "Egyptian Arab nationalists," adding the parent cat would just be overkill. --Al Ameer (talk) 00:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

"Rebel groups in Lebanon"

What is your rationale for putting practically all Lebanese civil war militias into this category? What does it have to do with "rebellion"? Militias are not "rebels" by definition. FunkMonk (talk) 17:08, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

They were rebel groups because they did answer to the government and they fighting for their own vision of what the Lebanese state should be. Charles Essie (talk) 17:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

But they did not fight the state (since there practically wasn't one), they fought each other. I have requested a rename, no sources I have ever encountered label these militias as "rebel groups". FunkMonk (talk) 17:36, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

You're entitled to remove them from the category, and maybe create a new category for the militias, but I would request keeping a separate rebel group category. Charles Essie (talk) 17:41, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

But that's the point, there's nothing that could be put in that category. Apart from maybe Fatah al-Islam, but they were never labelled a rebel group by anyone, and they were not even Lebanese mostly. FunkMonk (talk) 17:44, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, fine, do whatever you want, I don't care anymore. Charles Essie (talk) 21:13, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

What we want or care about is irrelevant, it is all about what's accurate and supported by sources. FunkMonk (talk) 21:24, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

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That link was already pointed to the disambiguation page, I just changed the spelling a little bit. Charles Essie (talk) 14:41, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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Edits on LGBT rights articles

Hi Charles, I notice you have made maintenance edits on LGBT rights articles, adding categories (which is good) and removing blank lines. I don't really see why you are removing these lines, since it does not make any visual difference, while having such blank lines in the source code increases readability of the code. Now the references, templates and categories right after each other, which is less readable. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 17:46, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

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I made no such link, excuse me, but where are getting information? Charles Essie (talk) 16:35, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

please help

i see you edited the Zhi Xian Party, i wonder if the party is banned and if so it must be said in the article, i found this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/hengshao/2013/12/17/bizarre-china-report-the-grand-wedding-power-play-smog-inspired-creativity/ founders of a brand political new party filed a lawsuit against the beijing ministry of civil affairs last week after the ministry suprisingly declared zhixian-or supreme consittution party, violated existing laws by carrying out activities as an ungregistred social organisation........founders of the zhiaxian party were clearly displeased with their party a political enitity being labeled as a mere "social organisation" in a bold power play zhixian party issued a formal announcement rescinding the ministry attemlpt to outlaw the party. chinese constution olny prohibits opposition to the ccp one one the founders said but not the establishment of new political parties which manifestly is a downright diffrent matter......Not hard to guess what the official response would be, but let’s quote the spokesman for the mysterious United Front Work Department of the CCP Central Committee, at a Q&A session in 2011: “The Communist Party of China and eight democratic parties essentially represent all social classes and groups. The multiparty cooperation system has a broad coverage. Therefore there is no need to establish new political parties.” does this mean that the party is banned? and if so it must be said in the article, can you please help me? Ionchari (talk) 08:50, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Merge proposal on Egyptian Revolution of 2013

Greetings, were you proposing to merge the revolution article "into" or "from" the 2 others? Because i checked the tag in all 3 articles and all say "into", which sounds a bit weird. Can you please check back? Thanks. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 22:30, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done Charles Essie (talk) 22:33, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 23:30, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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I commented there, also on your question on the Russian revolution. 83.83.1.229 (talk) 22:52, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

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How did you find my English? Is sufficiently intelligible ? Thank you

A little imprecise definition. Laws and the state power always work so, in almost all countries. So, <Putinism> is something else than only <for friends - everything, for enemies - the law>. The lema <Putinism>, but also its positive position moments. So, for example, for himself Mr. Pesident Putin, as a real man expects nothing other than described here <Putinism>.Pinochet22 (talk) 09:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

August 2014

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Nomination for deletion of Template:The Sarah Connor Chronicles

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Pirate Party of Berlin

Hello! I undid your recent category change to the Pirate Party of Berlin page in which you changed the category from "Political parties in Germany to "Libertarian parties in Germany". The Pirate Party Germany characterizes itself (according to their website) as "social-liberal-progressive". Do you have anything that states explicitly that the party aligns itself with libertarianism (used here, as in the category, in the American sense of the term)? Interestingly, the only other party in the category is the Party of Reason, a small-government/free market party.