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re: user_talk:petiatil#Ambisinister

Thanks for looking out, I didn't check first, but the article should really be tagged CSD-A7 as it really isn't remarkable.... Petiatil ^»Talk 14:04, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't have wasted my time setting up an AfD for this useless article if I had thought it qualified for A7, but unfortunately it doesn't, as it is not about a person, an animal, an organization, or web content. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

• Also, I noticed the duration of your wikipedia account. 5+ years, I'm going 6+ and it's amazing how much it's grown... Petiatil ^»Talk 14:05, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and I see you're a Grognard Extraordinaire, and not far short of 5000 edits. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for AfD-ing this. I'm not logged in at present in an attempt to persuade myself to get on with a lot of Real Life pressing needs, but I keep stub-sorting and then getting led off into controversies like this one! 85.211.13.188 (talk) 14:07, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, in that case, to have encouraged you. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, from my experience, if you go for long periods without contributing anything -- wikipedia will still be there with open arms when you come back.... Heck, I've had rollback for a few years and I fire up huggle every now and again and do some rollback'n... It's kinda a hobby. If i try to explain to one of my friends "what i do on wikipedia" - it's hard. Petiatil ^»Talk 14:09, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Do note i have been known to go 6+ months without an edit. Petiatil ^»Talk 14:10, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I wish I could do that. Unfortunately I'm far too deeply hooked. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, you're "preachin' to the choir.." - haha, cheers Petiatil ^»Talk 14:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Check this out..

This comment someone just left... its kind of funny - diff Petiatil ^»Talk 14:24, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

• this diff is a better illustration of the comment... oops Petiatil ^»Talk 14:26, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

This is a persistent vandal/troll. The post to your page was pure trolling. The best thing to do with this person is remove their comments and make no response, per WP:DON'T FEED THE TROLLS. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:45, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thanks for cleaning up after me (sorta) and being a fellow tenured wikipedian or as you put it... a "Grognard Extraordinaire" -- Thanks... Petiatil »Talk 14:22, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

User:Chansep2009

Chansep2009 has blanked his talk page again,[1] despite previous warnings with reference to WP:BLANKING.[2] I've reverted but expect to see it happen again. I'm more than a little suspicious that Chansep2009 is actually the same person as User:Ashleyleggat404 and the appearance of User:TheGoldenHunter7 only solidifies my suspicions. --AussieLegend (talk) 11:10, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I thought that Chansep2009 looked like a sockpuppet, rather than a new user, but I did not know what earlier account to link it to. Following your prompting, I have checked the evidence, and I am in no doubt at all about Ashleyleggat404/Chansep2009, so I have changed Chansep2009's block to indefinite, and revoked talk page access (which I was planning to do anyway if the user blanked the page once more). I have also started a sockpuppet investigation to ask a checkuser to look at TheGoldenHunter7. Your help has been invaluable. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:46, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

Thank you for helping with my autoblock issue today! Andrew Kurish (talk) 01:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Zoo Articles

No one asked you to protect those zoo articles. Zoo articles are NOT to be protected. Could you please expand the protection? A month is TOO LONG so make it a week. We IP's don't like to wait that long. At least you didn't do it to Melbourne Zoo, Taronga Zoo, Wellington Zoo, Whipsnade Zoo, and London Zoo. Please expand the protection. I'm not being rude. 58.7.128.239 (talk) 07:49, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

We IP's a very sorry for what we've done. We've only been adding in animals. Why have you become attached to those articles. Do not Revert any edits of mine. Say you will exapnd the protection of the zoo articles to a week. Month TOO LONG. 58.7.128.239 (talk) 07:59, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

CloudSafe

James, there are thousands of reasons why anyone on WikiPedia could delete the CloudSafe page. And there are thousand of reasons why it could be left in my users pace or promoted into main space. Frankly speaking I give up on all this WikiPedia discussions. I spent weeks to justify the entry and we had a lot more coverage than half of the other rightfully listed online storage companies on WikiPedia. So if you or others think it is necessary to delete the page then go ahead. I am not willing to spend another countless hours repeating the same arguments, just to have the next deletion request. I thought there would be more equality and democracy here on WikiPedia but I guess it's the opposite by now. Probably it would have been better to copy what a lot of startups here in Europe did: Contacting Jimmy Wales to get them a reputable entry by a "neutral" respected WikiPedia contributor. Don't quote me :) Roberto Roberto valerio (talk) 09:59, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham...

Why did you protect this article? It was four days since the last edit when you came and did this for no apparent reason. BollyJeff || talk 12:26, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

There is a long-term pattern of disruptive editing on this and other articles, with the disruption restarting after earlier protection has expired, and new sockpuppet accounts being brought into use when others are blocked. Recently the disruption had been taking place on this and another article. If the recent editing problem had been an isolated incident then I wouldn't even have considered protecting the article on the basis of edits which, as you rightly point out, were a few days ago. However, it was not an isolated incident, and when a problem has been continuing over a time period of not a lot less than a year, a gap of a few days is not really very significant. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh, are you talking about the "child actor" additions? BollyJeff || talk 18:54, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:55, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Wyclefj

talkback (wyclefj) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wyclefj (talk • contribs) 18:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Seen. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:44, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

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ANI thread

...where someone has mentioned you in an underlying attack page (subject of thread). Cheers,
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Micky Noise

Mashagkeka (talk) 15:33, 27 October 2011 (UTC)Please be nice and kind and explain me why you want to delete my page,what is not correct and good with page?All is true and facts,Micky Noise deserve to be inside,because he is one of the most famous producer of trance music!He is known all around the world,he has so many albums and famous songs! Thank you! Greetings!

If he is that famous then it should be easy to find significant coverage in independent reliable sources to show that he satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. However, no such evidence is cited in the article, and my (admittedly brief) searches have failed to produce any. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:38, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Catapilla

You say, typically harshly, that you can see no reason for the existence of the Catapilla article. If you don't know that Vertigo is a major label and can't read that the band had albums on it which completely satisfies notability, then I respectfully suggest this is not the kind of article you should be reviewing or in a hurry to churlishly delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mxp3456 (talk • contribs) 18:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

"In a hurry to churlishly delete"? I started a discussion on whether the article should be deleted, to give other people a chance to express their opinions. As an administrator I could have simply deleted it, but I didn't. I could see no evidence of notability, but I am perfectly willing to believe that others may be able to show notability: that is the purpose of a discussion. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:16, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

As an administrator I could have simply deleted it, but I didn't.

That would have been, at the very least, a bit impolite, don't you think? After another administrator had declined the CSD-A7? Catfish Jim and the soapdish 18:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but what I was trying to convey was that if I had been "in a hurry to churlishly delete" the article I could have done so. I was not suggesting that there was any chance I might have done so. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

All I know is that I'm relatively new here and have never encountered a site full of such smartarsery, cleverdickishness and unfriendliness. It seems to be the default setting. Whatever - I'll delete my account and you can all get on with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mxp3456 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, you are certainly right in thinking that there is too much unfriendliness on Wikipedia. There are unfortunately far too many people here who, when they find someone doing something they disagree with, accuse them of things like "smartarsery" and "cleverdickishness". Fortunately, though, they are a minority, and most Wikipedians try to resolve things by civil discussion, and prefer to politely explain why they disagree with someone else, rather than indulging in that kind of childish name calling. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:08, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

I have now withdrawn the deletion nomination, having been persuaded by the other participants in the discussion I initiated. I leave you to judge whether that is the action of someone "In a hurry to churlishly delete" the article, or of someone who thought the subject might not justify an article, and started a discussion in order to decide one way or the other. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:32, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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Seen. Thanks. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:03, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Reliable Source Music

Can you please explain to me properly why the page Reliable Source Music was deleted?

There are several other production music libraries listed on Wikipedia such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Network and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPM_Musichouse I fail to see how these are more relevant than the page I created - if anything mine contained more information thus making it a more useful resource. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonState (talk • contribs) 11:39, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

The article gave no indication of significance of the company. The article went to considerable efforts to show that the company had connections with significant people and organisations, but that does not make the company itself important. Every one of the references in the article either didn't mention the company at all, or was a page on the website of the company itself, or someone connected to it, or a website that anyone can submit content to (namely linkedin or YouTube). The existence of other articles which you think are no better is of little if any relevance: they may be more justifiable for reasons you haven't noticed, or they may be no better at all, and just as deserving of deletion. There are well over three million articles on English Wikipedia, and among them there are, unfortunately, many which shouldn't be there. I notice that one of the articles you mentioned has been tagged by an editor who thinks it may not meet the notability guidelines, in which case it should certainly be deleted, and maybe it will be. However, whether it is deleted or not does not affect whether another article should be deleted: each article must be judged on its own merits. It is perfectly natural for someone new to editing Wikipedia to look at existing articles to see what is acceptable, but unfortunately it is not a reliable guide. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I feel the lack of dispute resolution is extremely unfair, that the page is just deleted without anyway of defending or altering the article to make it compliant with the Wiki Guidelines. To re-submit the entry I see that I have to seek your permission, which I feel is grossly unfair given that viability of the entry is more than likely pragmatic depending upon your knowledge of the subject. If I was to add better referencing and prove the significance of the organisation would the page be allowed to be active? SimonState (talk) 12:45, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I also feel it was unfair to delete this while we was in the middle of editing it. You can't judge conflict of interest and relevance of an unfinished article. We wanted to put up the basic facts so that anyone coming across the article who felt they could expand with reliant information could add it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RSMLibrary (talk • contribs) 11:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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I can't see any message for me there. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:02, 28 October 2011 (UTC)