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Per [[MOS:CHINESE]], you should also add the Pinyin romanization, if you add other romanizations. Adding Pe̍h-ōe-jī and only Pe̍h-ōe-jī is undue and suggests some close connection between it and the subject of the article. [[User:Intforce|intforce]] ([[User talk:Intforce|talk]]) 14:46, 18 December 2022 (UTC) |
Per [[MOS:CHINESE]], you should also add the Pinyin romanization, if you add other romanizations. Adding Pe̍h-ōe-jī and only Pe̍h-ōe-jī is undue and suggests some close connection between it and the subject of the article. [[User:Intforce|intforce]] ([[User talk:Intforce|talk]]) 14:46, 18 December 2022 (UTC) |
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: I've also raised the issue [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Taiwan#Addition_of_Pe̍h-ōe-jī|here]]. Feel free to continue the discussion there. [[User:Intforce|intforce]] ([[User talk:Intforce|talk]]) 15:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC) |
Revision as of 15:03, 18 December 2022
Edit on People's Action Party page
Hi, Jen KRT, I've undid an edit you made on the PAP page as there was no edit summary given and I couldn't see what the point of the edit was. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 18:16, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
Edits on Singapore pages
Hi Jen KRT, some of your recent edits on the pages of people in Singapore are being reverted as I think some editors feel that they add a number of Chinese names that are not relevant to those Singaporean people. Before you make further additions, I think it would be good to discuss them on the talk pages of the respective articles to see if a consensus can be reached. Cheers, Dawkin Verbier (talk) 07:59, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- To whom it may concern, the purpose of inserting Pe̍h-ōe-jī (Hokkien Romanisation) and sometimes Jyutping (Cantonese Romanisation) into Chinese-Singaporean people's names because it simply doesn't make sense to have Mandarin Pinyin of their names.
- Just think it in another similar scenario, we do not change French name "Jean" into "John". Correspondingly, we cannot force Tokyo to be named in Mandarin "Dōng Jīng".
- Prior to the Speak Mandarin Campaign launched by Singaporean government, Chinese-Singaporeans speak Hokkien, Cantonese, Teochew, Hainanese, Hakka, and other Southern Chinese languages. Since Hokkien people comprise the most among Chinese-Singaporean community, it was a lingua franca among the community. Thus, simply forcing Mandarin pinyin into their names do not justify at all.
- Similarly, those Singaporean places with Chinese names, actually can be read in Southern Chinese languages. Thus, it is also reasonable that we provide Hokkien, Cantonese pronunciations for Singaporean places too.
- If you are still not convinced that Southern Chinese languages are essential to the community, please refer to this website by "Speak Hokkien Campaign" for more insights. https://www.speakhokkien.org/about-us
- Should I cause any inconveniences, I apologise for my unintentional acts. Jen KRT (talk) 08:34, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
Adding Pe̍h-ōe-jī without adding Pinyin
Per MOS:CHINESE, you should also add the Pinyin romanization, if you add other romanizations. Adding Pe̍h-ōe-jī and only Pe̍h-ōe-jī is undue and suggests some close connection between it and the subject of the article. intforce (talk) 14:46, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- I've also raised the issue here. Feel free to continue the discussion there. intforce (talk) 15:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC)