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Please use a new section or edit a relevant section. Thank you.

This page will be archived when the table of contents fills up my view. --Kjoonlee 05:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dinosaur pronunciation

Hey Kjoonlee,

What happened? You stopped adding IPA pronunciations to dinosaur articles! Firsfron of Ronchester 22:03, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Civility

We're done talking. Wahkeenah 05:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC) Well, not quite. While I was being distracted by this petty argument, the original user that brought up the subject zapped the flag from the article. So we're arguing over nothing. I apologize for beating this dead horse. Wahkeenah 06:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: RefDeskBot

Template:Emot Thanks for reporting it. Hopefully it'll only happen once a year, though I'll check it carefully tomorrow and take action if the 2007/2008 errors are still occuring. Thanks, and Happy New Year. Martinp23 01:20, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing the page moves there - I've deleted those you listed on my talk page. Thanks again, Martinp23 01:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD Notice

An article that you have been involved in editing, Seven day roguelike, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seven day roguelike. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --Lankybugger 19:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem

Yeah, I usually check to make sure I don't break things after I edit it. To be honest, it was my fault, not yours! Keep up the good work, and have a great day! If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 03:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

67.165.216.16/Primetime

67.165.216.16 is hard-banned user Primetime (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). If you see any edits by that IP or by users who appear to be him please contact me or another admin. All of his contributions should be reverted on sight. -Will Beback · † ·

Mas Oyama

Nice work on adding useful, cited information to the Masutatsu Oyama article. Cla68 04:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for the link and advice about jpegcrop, that was exactly the sort of thing I was looking for.
Skittle has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Korean Language

The page you directed is written in Korean. The Chinese characters there are just Chinese translation of the key words. Koreans don't use Chinese characters any more. If you don't like my wording, you can change it to some softer ones, but don't simply revert other people's edit which actually is more accurate. Migye 16:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see what is your point, but the websites you provided are all in Korean characters. There are 5 Chiense characters in the last one. But they all can be replaced by Korean characters. Migye 16:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop vandalising my talk page. I didn't attack anyone. You're actually worse than ridiculous. Migye 19:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Inline text

I thought thats what I was supposed to do? The links go to relevant pages that back up the info. Zzz345zzZ 01:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Linking to templates

Thanks! You can also do it like this: {{film-screenshot}} ({{[[:Template:film-screenshot|film-screenshot]]}}, which is a little longer, but easy to remember because you also link to categories and images by placing an ":" at the beginning.) Cheers, Skarioffszky 12:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish

I see that you changed the tag on your Korean userpage to sv-1, but everywhere else it's still zero. 68.145.207.92 00:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barbaro

I was just trying to clean up the dead links. As far as look for links that say what I want them to say, I have done nothing of the sort. I was reading through all of the links already reference and came across one with information that was not yet included and then included it. Zzz345zzZ 05:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Tomato and common sense on User talk:Jerry

You seem to have a good point there. Thanks. Jerry 18:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Asian characters

Thanks for your response. I have eight more character symbols I need to define before making them into charms. Do you mind if I post them here for your help in identifying them? Thanks. Nebraska bob 20:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:No-help audio template

Check my talk page. Armando.O^{talk • Ev} 23:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Germanic SVO

I can't recall hearing of a living Germanic language that isn't SVO and I think it's a bit uncalled for to demand a specific citation for it. You should at least try discussing things on talkpages before asserting your doubts in article space.

Peter ^Isotalo 18:07, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Wrong template, no rationale

The images are linked to in the Loudness war article. If you delete my images, then you will need to delete all images of waveforms from that article. WACGuy 00:21, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the popular examples were deleted anyways, so those images are now orphaned and qualify for deletion. Oh well! Spilt milk. WACGuy 06:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be destructive

Kjoonlee, be constructive, not destructive. Stop deleting pictures, tell users how to add Fair use rationale on their pictures. Tell users how to add the correct licenses. Change your attitude...and make more love, not war ;) SmartAndFriendly 23:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

International Phonetic Alphabet FAC

I wanted to ask you a question that is relevant for me before I start making a long-winded analysis of the article: Do you actually intend to edit it so it can become a FA? The article is very good, but in several instances, require adjustments and possibly tricky referencing.

It is not possible to make an article FA without (sometimes very long) efforts, and it's important to understand that before making a nomination. I'm asking because the tone of the nom resembles that of many FP candidacies that have absolutely no chance of going to FP status, and are based on how "nice" the candidate look. Regards. Circeus 19:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, But you are still trying to do this without consensus

You need to get the necessary consensus to reinstate those links, first.
Deleting tags posted by other members, without due process, it's not seen "as an act of good faith".
So, please refrain from removing my tags until we have reached a general consensus at the talk page.
If no apparent consensus is achieved this week, then we'll wait a month,
but you will respect my tags until a conclusion is finally reached. Thank you. Jrod2 07:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your second warning

In addition, adding names that has no other purpose than to mention an engineer's name,
is considered spam. Jrod2 23:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no it isn't. See {{Who}}. Bogus warnings removed once again. --Kjoonlee 04:32, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your Third warning

Your edits to the mastering page are not suitable and your so called attribution, borders the line of the delivered promotion of living people that work in the field. If you start mentioning one ME, then everybody else for one reason or another, will start (Again) putting their names as well. So please, STOP adding that text without seeking consensus and for the last time.Jrod2 10:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed bogus warnings once again. What you fear won't happen, thanks to the Notability guidelines. --Kjoonlee 11:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed again. Please stop harrassing people. --Kjoonlee 16:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have to give you further explanations, however, look at this....

This is what I am trying to avoid at the "Loudness War". If you don't understand it, then ask me. FYI, the audio mastering page was a very vandalized page before I arrived. See it for yourself. These are a few example: SPAM 1 [1] SPAM 2 / VANDALISM 1 [2] Overt Spam [3] [4] February 6, 2006 IP adress 69.249.183.169 initiates the "War of the Mastering Guys" Quakertown, Pennsylvania [5] Pennssilvania [6] URL overt spam by PM Mastering [7] Rampant spam 2006 [8] [9] April 18, 2006 (Look familiar to you?) [10] [11] Rampant [12] July 6, 2006 [13] [14] July 7, 2006 - Suspicious IP [15] July 18, 2007 Slumpmasters w IP [16] [17] July 24, 2007 Spam UK [18] With IP 82.152.193.143 UK [19] July 27, 2007 UK [20] July 29, 2007 "The Way" to Spam [21] August 4, 2007 "Central" 10 days of August battle with Burbank, CA [22] August 13, 2006 66.214.253.155 (Busted) [23] [24] August 13, 2006 More edit wars [25] August 14, 2006 Busted deleted "Central" [26]

As you see every ME, known and unknown wanted to take advantage of the opportunity for free promotion WP can provide. I am going to bust everyone who attempts to spam, disrupt and shamelessly promote themselves through the audio pages, especially the Audio mastering page. Don't block my effort. Others should be doing the same on their respective subject preferences at WP . You should too. Jrod2 16:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AGF. --Kjoonlee 16:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You tell me to assume good faith? You know what? I am glad I got to see the kind of user you really are. Goodbye and yes, 3RR is the word. Jrod2 17:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree with you Kjoon. I also think Jrod2 hinders development. I decided to revert him whenever appropriate and allowable by 3R rule and if you see sneaky vandalism and removal of legitimate links by Jrod2 then please do the same. --Rert2 23:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again

Hello again Kjoonlee...I responded on your commons page about the vector help (thank you again!). On another note, I've been wanting to talk to you about the IPA FAC. I think we're stuck in a stalemate until we can reference the "other phonetic notation" section, although I don't possess any resources that do the job. I left a note on the talkpage of User:Ish ishwar (he's done a lot of referencing and expansion in articles pertaining to phonetic notation systems). Perhaps he'll turn up something, but other than that I don't know what to do. Do you have any ideas? The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 20:31, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your deletion of plot summary in The Deep Range

I just noticed this deletion dated 30 May. Someone had already advised me to read Wikipedia manual of style. When I read the old version again, after going over style manual, I see only the first line & last para need fixing.

I have not yet restored old text. Let me know if you have objection to stuff other than these two paras. I will restore over next few days.

Tinkoo. June 3, 2007.

From Tinkoo

Thanks for help offer. I will use it when appropriate.

Neither reason nor precedence suggests I tolerate comments that are in bad taste on my discussion page. Such comments will be deleted. Please refrain from restoring them.

Deep Range: I will look at it during weekend.

Tinkoo 17:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moving article

Thanks for the instructions, and it would have been more helpful if you could have done the move Instead of putting the situation back to square one,Now the page does not move to the Humraaz 2002 film page, there is no option but to cut and paste, unless you can tell a better way. Haphar 07:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re: roman at International Phonetic Alphabet

Hi, you changed "roman" to "Roman" at the International Phonetic Alphabet article using AWB. The term "roman", when used to describe typefaces, is meant to be in lowercase. It's like italic type vs. Italic languages. I hope this helps.. :) --Kjoonlee 17:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I thought it was supposed to be uppercase :P Thanks for the links, I see the difference now. My bad. xC | ☎ 20:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Korean Language (Interrogative vs. Imperative)

Read what an interrogative is: http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~twpl/TWPL25/Shin_TWPL25.pdf Read what an imperative is: http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-12282.html

가셔 kashe -go!(imperative) (가아라) 가라 kara - go!(imperative) 가세(요) kasei(yo) - go!(imperative) 가십시오 kasibsio - go!(imperative)

하셔 hashe - do!(imperative) (하여라) 해라 haira - do!(imperative) 하세(요) hasei(yo) - do!(imperative) 하십시오 hasibsio - do!(imperative)

Please provide reasons why you have made those changes. Jkrdsr 08:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I think you'd want to look at those links you provided, if they explain what interrogatives and imperatives are. The sentence at the Korean language article was plainly a question, therefore an interrogative. It's just a coincidence that it looks like an imperative. --Kjoonlee 15:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC) I've had a look, and they explain different speech levels. If the paper on interrogatives had been covering the same speech level as “하세요!”, then it would mentioned “하세요?” as an interrogative. If you're still not convinced, remember that “안녕하세요?” is an interrogative greeting that ends with “-세요” but it still isn't an imperative. Thank you. --Kjoonlee 16:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

"If the paper on interrogatives had been covering the same speech level as “하세요!”, then it would mentioned “하세요?” as an interrogative." <--This is just your thinking. “안녕하세요?” is not an interrogative. Remember that it is only because “안녕하세요?”'s formal equivalent is "how are you?"(interrogative) does not make “안녕하세요?” an interrogative in Korean. A Korean interrogative must have a wh-word (누구, 어떻게, 왜, 뭣, etc.).Jkrdsr 17:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

“하세요!” & “하세요?”, in Korean are the same structurally. Their only difference is the ! and the ? which makes the latter a question.Jkrdsr 17:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify your definition of an interrogative and an imperative.Jkrdsr 17:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC) Although they are made of the same phonemes, their syntactic structure couldn't be any more different. Compare 안녕하십시오! vs 안녕하십니까? again.. I'm telling you again, 하세요 is just a coincidence.. Ask at Talk:Korean language if you like.'' --Kjoonlee 18:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For 안녕하세요 to be an interrogative, it must be 왜 안녕하세요?, 어떻게 안녕하세요?, 누구가 안녕하세요?. 안녕하세요? alone is not an interrogative. syntactic structure?....If you are saying that “하세요!” & “하세요?” are the same because they are spelled and therefore sound the same you are truly incorrect. 하세요 with rising tone on 요 make it a question. The difference between “하세요!” & “하세요?” is only tonal. For you to state that it was mere coincidence show your lack of understanding of the Korean language. Language is never a coincidence. Please read the following and reread the previous links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question ...and please provide more than just assumptions in your next response.Jkrdsr 18:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Sounds - Korean doesn't have syllable-final flaps" - Kjoonlee

It is also arguable that writing that final ㄹ as an L or even an R does not avoid representing it as a non-"syllable-final flap".Jkrdsr 08:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edit(s) to Korean language, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. Bendž|Ť 09:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, writing syllable-final ㄹ as [l] makes sense, since syllable-final consonants have the articulators staying in touch until voicing ends, kind of like how unreleased stops work. Keep in mind that [r] is a trill, and [ɾ] is a tap; neither have the articulators staying in full contact with each other. We are dealing with phonetic transcriptions in square brackets, and what I have described are actual speech phenomena; they are consistent. I have trouble parsing what you mean, but we do avoid representing the ㄹ in 알람 as a syllable-final flap by writing it as [l]. --Kjoonlee 16:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

My only argument is that when you say any Korean word that ends or begins with a ㄴ,ㄷ,ㅌ,ㄹ, your tongue must touch the back of your upper front teeth. If you are a native speaker, 랄 for example, the initial and final are the same, obviously. It you compare that with an English L or R, the L is closer to the ㄹ. The tongue of an English R is no where close to the ㄹ.

Re: SVG Logo

Autotracing of multicolored images is not good. You might want to simplify the image before doing that. Please have a look at Image:Wikipedia-logo BW-hires.svg and Image:Wikipedia-logo-simple.svg. Thank you. --Kjoonlee 11:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I used an auto-tracer for multiple colors. Tcrow777 talk 21:19, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Descent 4

Hey, Lee, I was just reading Descent 4, but it looks a bit informal. I'm going to see what I can do about it. -- Alt iris Exeunt 08:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Signpost reverts

So, what's the deal with the slow-simmering edit war on the Signpost page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UninvitedCompany (talk • contribs)

I was going to ask the same. Wouldn't it be easier to explain what is wrong wth the GFDL on the talk page instead of generating a slow war? Circeus 21:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Audio-nolinks

Hi. What do you mean by:

If you don't provide a link to GFDL media, it will be a GFDL violation

Template:Audio-nolinks does provide a link to the GFDL media. You click the link and you are directed to the Image page, where you find the info and help links. This is the same as having the info and help links on the article, except without the clutter.

I know you do not like to have the links removed from the article, but saying it is a GFDL violation is a bit of a stretch. I'm reverting your reversion until you find a sound argument on your favor. There is no Wikipedia policy that says you must provide the info and help links on the article itself. The GFDL does not mention this either. As I was reading your post on Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost, you are also trying to push this extreme measure to images, and most did not agree. Cheers. ☆ CieloEstrellado 02:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Would you say an image thumbnail in an article is misleading because it links to the Image: description page and not the actual image file? The audio icon is absolutely useful to indicate it is an audio link and not an article link. Cheers. ☆ CieloEstrellado 13:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ref desk: snowclones

I would have killed for that page when I was a struggling copy editor at a newspaper. I suggest a redirect from "All your formulaic headlines are belong to us!" iames 18:07, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay

Hi there. I wasn't familiar with Wikipedia back then and I haven't had a chance to reply to your question on saggat. My original posting about Saggat was incorrect and I'm thankful that it was deleted. The hat which the woman in the picture wore is not Saggat and its actual name is Jeonmo(전모). Jeonmo was originally worn by women of every class and profession until Goryo dynasty, but became exclusive to Giseng in Joseon dynasty for reasons I'm not aware. Sorry again.--Klaus314 21:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Korean Name

It seems you do not like the word "clan name". But since we are talking about the difference between ssi and seong, what would you recommend the right English words for these two words? I think "family name" and "clan name" would be good translation, unless you have any better idea. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.24.93.194 (talk) 15:50:34, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

thanx!!

Hey, thanx for helping me with my sig! I thought it had to contain a URL to my user page, but if you say this is okay, that's good enough for me. Let's test it now: TechnoFaye Kane 20:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

foobar

I have again removed the unsourced claim about the fact that it exceeds professional grade equipment - this was tagged for a source for two months and none was presented. If you have a source, re-add the claim, otherwise please leave it out of the article. It is core wikipedia policy that editors must provide sources for content when challenged and ANY editor can remove unsourced material at any time. --Fredrick day 15:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Grey seals and pup

Ha! That's great: Nice work! Adam Cuerden ^talk 17:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response to old question regarding chinese character font

Hey Kjoon, I actually found that font many moons ago on a personal web page. I have no idea where it is anymore, I found it on a computer I no longer own so it's difficult for me to find out. I think I hopped around webpages beginning at omniglot's page about chinese characters, you may want to start by looking there. Best, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 23:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 Ha! That's great: Nice work! [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] <sup>[[User_talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]</sup> 17:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
+== Response to old question regarding chinese character font ==
+Hey Kjoon, I actually found that font many moons ago on a personal web page. I have no idea where it is anymore, I found it on a computer I no longer own so it's difficult for me to find out. I think I hopped around webpages beginning at omniglot's page about chinese characters, you may want to start by looking there. Best, '''[[User:Ikiroid|The ikiroid]] ([[User talk:Ikiroid|talk]]·[[User:Ikiroid/Desk|desk]]·[[User talk:Ikiroid/Help Me Improve|Advise me]])''' 23:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)