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Your most recent statement that the [[Murder of Anni Dewani]] must have been arranged by a particular living person who was tried and acquitted on those charges is a violation of [[WP:BLP|the biographies of living persons policy]]. Be aware that sanctions are available for violations of the policy on biographies of living persons (even if the mention is in an article that is primarily about a dead person). [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 17:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Your most recent statement that the [[Murder of Anni Dewani]] must have been arranged by a particular living person who was tried and acquitted on those charges is a violation of [[WP:BLP|the biographies of living persons policy]]. Be aware that sanctions are available for violations of the policy on biographies of living persons (even if the mention is in an article that is primarily about a dead person). [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 17:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


Robert said don't hesitate to contact me, but I'm not sure how. If I just reply here, does Robert see it? Well, I'll take my chances that he does:
:Robert said don't hesitate to contact me, but I'm not sure how. If I just reply here, does Robert see it? Well, I'll take my chances that he does:


1. I didn't exact say it "must have". Nevertheless, I won't quibble with your basic interpretation.
:1. I didn't exact say it "must have". Nevertheless, I won't quibble with your basic interpretation.
:2. I was only answering a question put to me by an editor much more experienced than me. Perhaps he was baiting me, since he knew full :well what my answer would be before he asked. Or perhaps even very experienced editors arent' familiar with this policy.

:3. I've now read your comments on "BLP" on the "Murder of Anni Dewani" talk page and see the rule. If I had read it previously, I :still would have been confused. Because, to me, with the reference to "legal status", it reads as if to say something like: you can't :say someone was found guilty in court, if they weren't found guilty in court. Further, I would have assumed that just referred to the ARTICLE, not the "talk page". And I'm kind of surprised that there is this sort of censoring of opinion and free speech. Nevertheless, in the meantime: Your Football, Your Rules.
2. I was only answering a question put to me by an editor much more experienced than I. Perhaps he was baiting me, since he knew full well what my answer would be before he asked. Or perhaps even very experienced editors arent' familiar with this policy.
:4. Is there anything further I need to do about this matter. [[User:Lane99|Lane99]] ([[User talk:Lane99#top|talk]]) 17:57, 25 August :2015 (UTC)

3. I've now read your comments on "BLP" on the "Murder of Anni Dewani" talk page and see the rule. If I had read it previously, I still would have been confused. Because, to me, with the reference to "legal status", it reads as if to say something like: you can't say someone was found guilty in court, if they weren't found guilty in court.

Further, I would have assumed that just referred to the ARTICLE, not the "talk page". And I'm kind of surprised that there is this sort of censoring of opinion and free speech. Nevertheless, in the meantime: Your Football, Your Rules.

4. Is there anything further I need to do about this matter. [[User:Lane99|Lane99]] ([[User talk:Lane99#top|talk]]) 17:57, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

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Lane99 (talk) 05:50, 1 September 2013 (UTC)Welcome![reply]

Hello, Lane99, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay.

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This said I could type this "helpme" on this(?) page, and someone will answer. I noticed the Debra Milke article was, to say the least, not neutral. I have tried to make some edits to it to make it moreso, but I don't know anything about formatting pages here, and I expect I haven't done a proper job of that. (when I figure out how to get the tilde (which is in blue on my keyboard) to type out, I will sign my name properly)lane99

Hi lane99, welcome to Wikipedia. Your edits to Debra Milke definitely improved the article, and I don't see any formatting issues. Also, at the bottom of the edit window on this page, above the edit summary field, there should be a little thing that says Sign your posts on talk pages, followed by four tildes. Click the four tildes, and it should insert a signature. Hope this helps! Howicus (talk) 02:24, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Howicus. Got it.Lane99 (talk) 05:51, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

August 2015

Information icon Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a loss of editing privileges. Thank you. MusikAnimal talk 19:28, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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August 2015

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Template:Z33 Robert McClenon (talk) 17:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your most recent statement that the Murder of Anni Dewani must have been arranged by a particular living person who was tried and acquitted on those charges is a violation of the biographies of living persons policy. Be aware that sanctions are available for violations of the policy on biographies of living persons (even if the mention is in an article that is primarily about a dead person). Robert McClenon (talk) 17:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Robert said don't hesitate to contact me, but I'm not sure how. If I just reply here, does Robert see it? Well, I'll take my chances that he does:
1. I didn't exact say it "must have". Nevertheless, I won't quibble with your basic interpretation.
2. I was only answering a question put to me by an editor much more experienced than me. Perhaps he was baiting me, since he knew full :well what my answer would be before he asked. Or perhaps even very experienced editors arent' familiar with this policy.
3. I've now read your comments on "BLP" on the "Murder of Anni Dewani" talk page and see the rule. If I had read it previously, I :still would have been confused. Because, to me, with the reference to "legal status", it reads as if to say something like: you can't :say someone was found guilty in court, if they weren't found guilty in court. Further, I would have assumed that just referred to the ARTICLE, not the "talk page". And I'm kind of surprised that there is this sort of censoring of opinion and free speech. Nevertheless, in the meantime: Your Football, Your Rules.
4. Is there anything further I need to do about this matter. Lane99 (talk) 17:57, 25 August :2015 (UTC)