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Roethlisberger

Hi there, Mbinebri.

I was just reading the article on Roethlisberger, and I noticed in the information that you added in the section about the most recent sexual assault charges, in the third paragraph, there is something a bit garbled or unfinished. I'm not sure what you intended to say, exactly, so I didn't want to touch it myself; but given the current interest in this story, it is probably worth fixing sooner rather than later. All the best, Craig. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craig Walker (talk • contribs) 13:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my talents as an analyst are failing me. Can you be more specific as to what you feel needs clarification?  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 14:00, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Drew Massey in Milledgeville, GA

I noticed your attempts to keep that vandal from adding the "famous rapper Drew Massey" bit to the Famous People section on the Milledgeville, Georgia article. Notice the user name of the editor is Drewm389. I will tell you that I live in Milledgeville and know of a Drew Massey who lives here as well. I do not know him personally, but I know who he is, and it would not surprise me one bit to know that he's pretending to be a rapper and adding his name to the article in some sort of immature joke. I'm just letting you know that you're right in your assumption that the rapper Drew Massey does not exist. Mellophonius (talk) 01:13, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the confirmation. Yeah, the editor's username was a dead giveaway that this is just silly, yet all too common, promotion... although I obviously would have removed his name regardless of the username. I see from your edit history that you've removed a link to a real estate site. I had to remove that too—from three places in the article. Sheesh!  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 01:51, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I try to keep an eye on the Milledgeville article as well as the Baldwin High School article for the high school there (which I actually created about four years ago). Thanks for taking out that vandalism. Mellophonius (talk) 14:48, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Angels or not

http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/12/top-earning-models-business-entertainment-models.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.212.253.80 (talk) 18:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Scott King (model)

Sorry, i'm italian and i dont speak english, check now Scott's page --Gabriele Deulofleu (talk) 13:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I was about to say welcome to Wikipedia, but judging from your Italian Wiki profile, I should be saying welcome to the English Wikipedia. As for King's article, keep in mind the WP:RS policy: blogs and most things published without editorial oversight aren't appropriate for Wikipedia. I left one of the refs, just so the article has something, but it in no way demonstrates King's notability (all it does is say his name), and I can find nothing online myself, which is problematic.

As for the Supermodel page, you're adding models with articles that do little to prove their notability, let alone their status as among the greatest male models of all time. What look like fan additions and exaggerations will always get reverted.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 21:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Scott King has been one of the first supermodels of years '90, on he does not find information because it has not never made the actor or the singer, but ago the fireman. On Tony Ward, Michael Bergin and the others it finds many more information because they have continued their career in the showbizz --Gabriele Deulofleu (talk) 23:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Supermodels are, by definition, the models that garner the most attention and press. If King did/does have a significant career, sources should be available. Him not becoming an actor or something does not make him an exemption from Wiki policies.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 14:10, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Chanel Iman's page

Hi, Mbinebri. I wanted to talk to you about Chanel Iman's fan page, specifically about information that I improperly sourced or failed to source over the last few weeks. You seem to be pretty good with the whole citation thing, and I was hoping you could help me out. Chanel recently contacted me about inaccurate information on the wikipedia site, most of it obtained from websites that had acquired the inaccurate information themselves from other websites. I would like to know if there is any way I can cite to Chanel directly, or have her publish something online that I can then cite too. Also, her mother has written a book that was published recently that contains some of the information. If I can cite to that, as well, please let me know. Finally, can I add a photo that is obtained from Chanel herself, and not copyrighted by anyone? If so, how would I go about doing this? I can get the photo easily, I just need to know how to post it without having it removed. There is currently no picture and the latest picture was about 3 years old. Please get back to me as soon as you can. Thanks a lot for your help!

Mike (Mikecrenshaw (talk) 05:21, 10 July 2010 (UTC))

You can't cite some directly, because there's no way of verifying it or even knowing whether the info truly comes from that person - and even if it did, it's a tricky issue because the person might not be truthful. For example, wouldn't it be convenient for an actress or model to "correct" some info by shaving a few years off their birth date? The point is that info presented through actual sources is reliable because it has theoretically gone through a fact-checking process to ensure it's correct before being published. You could just have her publish some stats on an official site to correct things like a birth date. Per policy, self-published sources aren't ideal, since they go through no fact-checking, but sometimes personal info is hard to find in other places so such sources are accepted as long as they aren't used to promote the subject. If her mother wrote a book and it's been published by a third party, you can cite it. But again, you have to be careful of promotional intent/content since it would be a book written by a likely biased person.

As for a photo, if Chanel or someone from her camp can provide one free of copyright (which means no magazine scans, advertisements, or candids taken from a site like Getty), there's a process where it can be uploaded with permission from Chanel (or whoever took the photo) via email to a specific account that handles this stuff. Do you have such a photo?  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 21:44, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I apologize for the delay, but I've been exceptionally busy lately. I do have a photo that meets that description, but I don't think it's appropriate for wikipedia. I will have her take another one, however, and make sure she gets permission from the photographer. What constitutes "permission"? Does she need a written letter permitting use, and if so, who does she get that too and what language would the photographer have to use? Also, who should the photo be sent to? Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate it. (Mikecrenshaw (talk) 04:54, 26 July 2010 (UTC))

Oops, now it's me apologizing for the delay. I looked around for the procedure for emailing permission for photo use but I haven't come across it—maybe I'm looking in the wrong place? Either way, you could just upload your photo to your Flickr account under an appropriate license if the person you're getting the photo from doesn't care and get it onto Wikipedia that way. But I'll keep looking for the right instructions unless you don't need me to.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 03:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Category nominated for deletion.

Please be advised that Category:American beauty pageant winners has been nominated for deletion, please see the discussion here. I'd appreciate you refraining from adding the cat to bios until this is sorted out. Cheers. PageantUpdater talk • contribs 00:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Halestorm (album)'s bold period.

How on EARTH did you catch that one? lol I found the edit where it was added and can't for the life of me figure out A) why it was added and B) how nobody caught it when it WAS added. Maybe the editor wanted the period to say "So there!" loud and clear! lol Anyway, good catch and happy editing! ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 23:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Haha, yeah, it was definitely a what-the-fuck moment seeing that. I figured it was the result of an incomplete attempt at removing vandalism or something, but you proved that it was just a random edit - maybe the most random I've seen! At least it wasn't embedded in a longer article, because then it would probably be there for eternity.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 00:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Hayes (actor) advertisement tag

Hi Mbinebri, I see that you have tagged my article as sounding like an advertisement. I also notice you did not even take the time to notify me about it. I was wondering if you could clarify which parts you feel need to be changed. I was following instruction I found here on wikipedia regarding the lead section: wp:mosbio. "5. Why the person is significant." but I do appreciate you taking the time to rewrite it. After viewing several other featured actor articles I do not feel that the lead section of this article was any more advertising than those I have read, Jackie Chan, Eric Bana, Reese Witherspoon, Noël Coward etc.

also my thanks for removing him from the parent cat. I thought I had resolved that already but I guess I missed one.

any help would be much appreciated.
Designsbyd (talk • global contribs • email) 23:54, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:OWN. No article belongs to one editor and unless the article is being nominated for deletion, notification of changes is not required (even then, it's not actually required, only recommended). Yes, the lead requires an explanation of the subject's significance, but that doesn't mean flattery. In the case of many actors or other creative professionals, they become publicly respected enough for their work that certain positive attributes are widely held and can be expressed without bias. With a unique mixed Trinidadian and Venezuelan heritage, distinctively bold facial features, athletic physique, and diverse sports background, Hayes has enjoyed strong and early marketing appeal is simply promotional fluff. As for the advert tag... after enough time on Wikipedia it's easy to tell the difference between a proper encyclopedic article written because the level of coverage demands it and an article written by a conflict of interest editor with a few sources scraped together to justify its existence, and this article is very clearly in the latter category. Writing like "acting gigs started pouring in", "successfully accumulating numerous magazine spreads and billboard ads" (rather than giving specifics), and "The roles give Daniel the opportunity to show the emotional depth and intense quality of his acting ability" is what I'm talking about; numerous external links within the article body, a gallery of professional photos, and a lot of red links for his work certainly don't help either. In fact, after looking the article over again, I don't even know what the subject is notable for and I'm not sure the sources establish it. (Sorry if that all sounded unnecessarily harsh.)  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 16:04, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Leave the other's work ALONE!!!!

Hey... can you PLEASE mind your own business and stop trying to delete other people's pages with your narrow-minded vision of notability? I'm the person who created the Maddison Gabriel page you're trying to have deleted. I don't mind if anybody updates a page I created but I'm getting tired of self-appointed vigilantes who get a thrill from destroying other people's work! GO AWAY FROM MY PAGES, WON'T YOU? Terveetkadet (talk) 19:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Wow, ownership issues, have we?  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 20:52, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I really don't care at all about WP:OWN... I just think destroying other people's work is cheap and lame have absolutely no respect for people who roam around Wikipedia looking for pages to delete Terveetkadet (talk) 00:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC)