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I'm TheOverflow. I'd rather not be red.

Notification of discussion

A few months ago, you participated in a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Did you know about Gibraltar-related DYKs on the Main Page. I am proposing that the temporary restrictions on such DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012, should be lifted and have set out a case for doing so at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Gibraltar-related DYKs. If you have a view on this, please comment at that page. Prioryman (talk) 21:48, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou for the notification. I have responded there. TheOverflow (talk) 00:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Lifting the Gibraltar DYK restrictions

A couple of months ago, you opposed a proposal to lift the restrictions on Gibraltar-related DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012. Could you possibly clarify (1) under what conditions you would support a lifting of the restrictions, and (2) when you think it would be appropriate to lift the restrictions? Prioryman (talk) 20:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

(1) After it is confirmed that Gibraltarpedia funding is concluded, and all obligations of those engaged by the Government of Gibraltar as a result of that engagement have been met. (2) Twelve months after (1). The year is arbitrary, and I could possibly be convinced of a shorter time, but I think it is prudent to clearly seperate any and all publicity (including simply raising the profile of Gibraltar on Wikipedia) from whatever funding might have given rise to it (and yes, I know there wasn't any actual 'paid editing'). Thank you for your interest. TheOverflow (talk) 00:41, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. Prioryman (talk) 22:39, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the question and the recent corrections on some Gib articles (shows we have similar aims). Your question though needs a bit of unpicking. I see your conditions above and these don't have much logic to them. Not that they have to of course - this recently has had little to do with logic. Some have argued that you need to create a Witch hunt (ok its an anology) for Gibraltar just because the drama types (protectors of the wiki)? have gathered with pitchforks. I understand that the wiki community does this and no one is clever enough to stop it. I would argue however that you may start to have "witch trials" and "new arbitrary and prejudicial laws" because the community demands it. However you don't end the witch trials a year after the death of the last witch! You end the witch trials when you realise that you have created arbitrary and baseless laws that target a group unfairly. The community at this point removes the rules not principally because they unfairly discriminate again a group, but because the community realise that having unfair and arbitrary rules reflects badly on themselves. </think>

I'm a bit optimistic that such a debate has just started at DYK talk - which is great (given its poor start). Victuallers (talk) 08:50, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

As I said, the year is arbitrary, and as I said, I could be convinced of a shorter time. In order to begin convincing me, could you tell me whether your contractual relationship with the Government of Gibraltar over? TheOverflow (talk) 07:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh but I would argue that a "shorter time" is just as arbitrary as a seven generation curse on anyone who has ever visited Iberia. I can understand that you can have irrational rules but its plain crazy to modify them as it implies that they had some logic associated with them. I'm hoping that this conversation is seeing you start on that route, but irrespective, thanks for the discussion. Victuallers (talk)

July 2013

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