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Hi. You rejected my article because you believed it sounded more like an advertisement than an article. I disagree, and unfortunately you have given no facts in support of your opinion. This is, in itself, a violation of first principles of Wikipedia. So, here are my facts. First, let's look at the article. Why does it seem like advertising? There is only factual information here---it has information attesting to the importance of the Festival (an essential qualification for Wikipedia articles), about the origins of the festival, and some brief information about the fifteen-year history of the festival, including its leadership and the highlights of their contributions, as well as mentions some of the more significant productions. In no way does it advertise upcoming seasons. That is exactly the sort of information that I would write (on a different scale) if I were preparing an article on any theatre company. Second, while I find it distasteful to cite my credentials as point of debate, it seems necessary in this case, because you have effectively suggested that I do not know how to write an article about a theatre company. I don't know upon what basis you have made this judgement, because you simply deleted my work with that sneer about advertising and without offering a single helpful comment. But the fact is that I certainly do know what an article about a theatre company needs. I am a full professor at Queen's University, I have a PhD in Drama and have edited a great number of encyclopedia articles and written contributions to various journals. So, please tell me about the factual basis upon which you have made your decision and perhaps you would also be so good as to explain what your credentials are to make this judgement. [[User:Craig Walker|Craig Walker]] ([[User talk:Craig Walker|talk]]) 18:25, 25 December 2017 (UTC) |
Hi. You rejected my article because you believed it sounded more like an advertisement than an article. I disagree, and unfortunately you have given no facts in support of your opinion. This is, in itself, a violation of first principles of Wikipedia, regarding the emphasis of evidence over opinion. So, here are my facts. First, let's look at the article. Why does it seem like advertising? There is only factual information here---it has information attesting to the importance of the Festival (an essential qualification for Wikipedia articles), about the origins of the festival, and some brief information about the fifteen-year history of the festival, including its leadership and the highlights of their contributions, as well as mentions some of the more significant productions. In no way does it advertise upcoming seasons. That is exactly the sort of information that I would write (on a different scale) if I were preparing an article on any theatre company. Second, while I find it distasteful to cite my credentials as point of debate, it seems necessary in this case, because you have effectively suggested that I do not know how to write an article about a theatre company. I don't know upon what basis you have made this judgement, because you simply deleted my work with that sneer about advertising and without offering a single helpful comment. But the fact is that I certainly do know what an article about a theatre company needs. I am a full professor at Queen's University, I have a PhD in Drama and have edited a great number of encyclopedia articles and written contributions to various journals. So, please tell me about the factual basis upon which you have made your decision and perhaps you would also be so good as to explain what your credentials are to make this judgement. [[User:Craig Walker|Craig Walker]] ([[User talk:Craig Walker|talk]]) 18:25, 25 December 2017 (UTC) |
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Q on reference source language
07:53:55, 14 November 2017 review of submission by FriendlyB
Dear Thereodislong,
thank you for reviewing the draft "Dr. Petry Textile Auxiliaries".
For the sources, I cited independent sources, such as - http://www.genios.de/fachzeitschriften/artikel/MTB/20080617/umweltschutz-und-nachhaltigkeit-in-/060817061.html - https://www.biooekonomie-bw.de/de/fachbeitrag/aktuell/insektenchitin-macht-textilherstellung-nachhaltiger/
In order to have more evidence, I added information from further independent sources and references: - https://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/companies/6311207Z:GR-textilchemie-dr-petry-gmbh - https://www.bluesign.com/industry/chemical-suppliers/references/textilchemie-dr-petry
Thank you in advance for re-reviewing.
Thanks for your help!
Thanks for your assistance with Draft:InnoCare. I have included
The following Wikipedia contributor may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view.
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and noted it on your user page that I work for that company. They're not paying me to create this page, I just think it would cool to have a Wikipedia page. Let me know if there's anything else you can suggest to improve my draft. I appreciate your help!
05:44:48, 23 November 2017 review of submission by Lizzybunker
- Lizzybunker (talk · contribs)
I've added the appropriate citations!
Request for approved article creation
Hello, sir I love to created an article in Wikipedia, and also editing article. So please allow me for iam created articles please allow me sir, Thank You.
And iam sorry I am not editing again Ashika Bhatia OK, Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dolphin (Dolphin) (talk • contribs) 18:09, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Invacio
Hi Theroadislong I've edited the text - please let me know if it's better this way I appreciate your feedback!
00:53:26, 27 November 2017 review of submission by Cmolaro
I added more 3rd party sources that are verifiable and are independent, professional sources (not personal blogs or sites). I now have 15 citations.
Please let me know what else you think is required to have it accepted?
12:54:53, 27 November 2017 review of submission by Llewol
08:40:08, 28 November 2017 review of submission by Salt&pepper12345
Hi there, thank very much for your care and consideration to to help build this page. I can understand why the review was rejected, as i hadn't cited enough sources on the first draft. I was wondering if you'd mind having a read over the latest draft and checking if it is better now thank you. SP
13:22:45, 4 December 2017 review of submission by 79.106.95.85
- 79.106.95.85 (talk · contribs)
15:12:16, 4 December 2017 review of submission by Mikausch
I do not agree in the estimations on the weak reliability of the sources of the article on Vincotech. Here are the main sources:
1. "Electronics World" ist one of the leading British technical magazines in electronics and RF engineering. There ist a Wikipedia article about: Electronic World 2. "channel e Magazin für Elektronik" is the leading German online magazine on electronics: http://www.channel-e.de 3. The next source is an official announcement of Siemens, one of the biggest companies on electronics, on Vincotech: http://www.dgap.de/dgap/News/adhoc/ad-hocservice-siemens-deutschenglisch/?newsID=7740 4. The Tyco Announcement on Vincotech was published in http://www.all-electronics.de, the online Portal of the leading central european publishing house for publications in electronics markets. It is part of Süddeutscher Verlag, which has already an article in the english Wikipedia: Süddeutscher Verlag 5. The accouncement of "The Gores Group" was directly published bei The Gores Group: http://www.gores.com/wp-content/themes/gores2/news/news_pr_20110105.pdf. The Gores Group has also an article in Wikipedia.
All these sources are independend and reliable. And Vincotech today is one of the global leaders in its market (with about 140 mio € revenues). The "Electronics World" (see above) about Vincotech: "Vincotech ... resolutely moved up the ladder to become a market leader."
- please read WP:REFB for help with formatting references. Theroadislong (talk) 19:22, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. My mistake. Corrections were done. (Mikausch) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikausch (talk • contribs) 09:09, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
COI Editing Question
Hello - I received a message from you yesterday outlining COI issues on Westminster College (Missouri). I was unaware of the rule about COI editing. If I add a disclosure to my user page, can the edits I submitted be reinstated, either in part or in full? The content was informational, and while I understand that I may be unduly influenced by my relationship with the institution, the edits I made did bring the entry up to date on several points (especially the list of College presidents and updates to the athletics and academics sections).
If the edits cannot be restored, I will request independent editing, as outlined in your message.
Thank you. Anna Comfort (talk) 17:01, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
- When you have a conflict of interest you can request edits on the talk page of the article and an uninvolved editor can assess the merits and add or decline them accordingly. Theroadislong (talk) 17:03, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Seasons Greetings
Greetings Theroadislong,
For all I know you might be an AI.
A souped up "Eliza" [[1]] anyway, I really want to understand the concept of "Notability", what pleases me the most is how it breaks down so nicely into "Not ability". I just want this done. Hell, even github puts up with us!
Kindest Regards,
Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flintiii (talk • contribs) 21:11, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
- Your comments are rather cryptic but your draft has 4 references two are to your own website, one is a blog with an message, the other is to Github, which says "VisualBash is a modest and seriously tongue-in-cheek bash programmiung framework." none of these even begin to establish notability I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 00:21, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Description verses promotion.
Greetings Theroadislong,
I want to quote this back to you, wish I knew the special characters to put your quote in a pretty box:
"I'm afraid that Wikipedia is not the place to promote your software. We only summarize what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject."
I am not at all interested in promotion. I am interested in validation of the Visual Bash concept. Any idea how to help me get into programming structure?
Regards,
Paul Flintiii (talk) 16:52, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not at all clear what you are asking... "validation of the Visual Bash concept"? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent say about a subject. You would need to provide detailed references showing the subject has received significant coverage, in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. You also have a conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 17:03, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
21:10:13, 6 December 2017 review of submission by Innocent Cuty
Dear Theroadislong
Hope you are fine and doing good.
I am requesting for a review again as the major comment for rejection/decline of this article was its Reference section or having less references. Now, the draft has been updated, and more than 20 solid references have been employed, with more historical details, and best possible bibliographic support in the light of the available literature. This single page article is now having over 25 appropriate references, and are strengthened with new data.
Your anticipation in this regard will be highly appreciated.
Sincere Regards
Request on 21:17:14, 6 December 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Innocent Cuty
Dear Reviewer
Hope you are fine and doing good.
I am requesting for a re-review after justifying the major comment on this article, which was on its Reference section for having less references. Now, the draft has been updated, and more than 20 solid references have been employed, with more historical details, and best possible bibliographic support in the light of the available literature. This single page article is now having over 25 appropriate references, and are strengthened with new data.
Your anticipation in this regard will be highly appreciated.
Sincere Regards
Innocent Cuty (talk) 21:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
The objected references (facebook blogs) were updated with new ones, thank you very much for the prompt response and suggestion
Dear Theroadislong
Thank you very much for your prompt response.
The objected references (facebook) has been udpated with the departmental URLS (links to the webpages). I think, these were the most up to dated and regularly updating references. Moreover, the last paragraph was deleted, because the book describing the paragraph and the mentioned material is in press (which is written by Dr. Ikram), and once the book got published, the three to four lines paragraph will be inserted again.
I do hope, that the draft will get approved now and will get online, as after coming across other such articles, this one seems to be far better than those.
Your prompt and positive anticipation in this regard will be highly appreciated.
Thanking you in anticipation
Sincere Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Innocent Cuty (talk • contribs) 21:41, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
The objected references (facebook) has been udpated with the departmental URLS (links to the webpages). Thank you for the Prompt response and providing support to make this draft better.
Dear Theroadislong
Thank you very much for your prompt response.
The objected references (facebook) has been udpated with the departmental URLS (links to the webpages). I think, these were the most up to dated and regularly updating references. Moreover, the last paragraph was deleted, because the book describing the paragraph and the mentioned material is in press (which is written by Dr. Ikram), and once the book got published, the three to four lines paragraph will be inserted again.
I do hope, that the draft will get approved now and will get online, as after coming across other such articles, this one seems to be far better than those.
Your prompt and positive anticipation in this regard will be highly appreciated.
Thanking you in anticipation
Sincere Regards
01:00:41, 7 December 2017 review of submission by Dean.villaruz
I'm very confused as to what you mean by making the first few sentences of the page tell us how she is "notable". That is all the information that we found on her on the internet. I'm concerned because we're doing this page for a school project. She is notable for helping pioneer the role of women in petroleum geology. As well having been an active member of AAPG (American Association of Petroleum Geologists) for 56 years.
- You are not as confused as you think, because you managed to do what was required, the draft now just needs to use inline references so that each fact is supported by a source, you can read WP:REFB for help with that, I have copy edited the content a little and it could do with some links to other wikipedia articles, but it's nearly there. Theroadislong (talk) 08:15, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
issue resolved
hi i resolved those issues, added references — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbeckerton94 (talk • contribs) 10:28, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Hey, hoping there's enough references to remove the {{notability}} tag from Puddle pirate now? Bogger (talk) 10:57, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Done thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 11:19, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your review!
Dear Admin,
Thanks for reviewing my first article, I'm a fine artist and want to publish the articles on the subject on my knowledge, to start with I thought to write about my school where I learned the fine arts. And as per your review that got some adv content and can you help me to direct to modify it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coloringindia (talk • contribs) 08:14, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
- I am not an admin I am an editor just like you. Your draft Draft:Pencil And Chai reads rather like an advert praising your school, rather than an encyclopaedia article. We just need the dry facts as supported by reliable sources. You also have a conflict of interest because you are attending the school. Theroadislong (talk) 09:43, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Ok, let me see that perspective and let me clarify "I'm a passed out student not Studying there currently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coloringindia (talk • contribs) 05:52, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Hey!
Just to clarify I am not being paid to edit this article.
Thanks
Alice — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alicewoods (talk • contribs) 16:14, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Draft:Anthony Logan.
I have updated my page. Please can you re-review? Thanks
Alice — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alicewoods (talk • contribs) 17:17, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Inquiring
Hi Theroadislong Yesterday you'd rejected the translation of my article saying that it's only for English articles.All I did that I'd translated it to the Arabic language to enrich the Arabic content in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ameerof (talk • contribs) 09:34, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but this is the English Language Wikipedia; we can only accept articles written in the English Language you are welcome to add it to the Arabic Wikipedia page. Theroadislong (talk) 10:34, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thanks for approving my very first Wikipedia article so quickly! So empowering!
SaturdayLibrarian (talk) 18:38, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for your excellent first article Jennie Scott Scheuber. Theroadislong (talk) 18:41, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Paul Manners - Draft Article
Adjusted draft article as advised and emphasized notability for Britain's Got Talent. Also he is in the upcoming feature film Dead Ringer alongside other famous stars.
Here's a video of him on Getty Images walking the red carpet to Rise Of The Footsoldier film this year.
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/paul-manners-at-cineworld-leicester-square-on-october-26-news-footage/867298332 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.192.202 (talk) 19:20, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
If IMDB is not a reliable source then what is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirkingsleeey (talk • contribs) 06:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Your sources include...IMDb, Youtube, Instagram and blogs none of which are considered reliable sources (please read the link) for help. Theroadislong (talk) 08:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
09:52:10, 11 December 2017 review of submission by ایرج تقلیدی
- ایرج تقلیدی (talk · contribs)
I missed reference part in new page created.
I create this page for Mr Mohammad Ebrahimi, He is a Iranian DJ and music producer and worked since 1998 and her Podcast series name is DeepBox, but because his genres its not in official news online, but it have Thousands of audiences.
http://www.artsportal.ir/?s=Djmd
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent say about a subject. You would need to provide detailed references showing the subject has received significant coverage, in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. Theroadislong (talk) 11:07, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
FYI re Draft:TonyShang and Draft:Gualtiero Galmanini
Before you waste your time reviewing either one, see this SPI. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Nuclear Shot Youtube Source
Just to let you know, this is the official Particle Studios channel, which are the original developers. I added them in the developers. Any patch notes or information I can find by the developers is very vague.
Hi there - do you review the resubmission for my Buck Mason wiki page? I'm surprised how quickly my previous drafts were denied but how long this has taken for review. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerldmrk1 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Jenny Brekhus
Theroadislong,
I respectfully disagree with your decision to reject my article on notability grounds once again. Another editor rejected it based on insufficient citations which means that they felt like they could not reject it based on insufficient notability, once I had taken steps to show the subject's notability.
If you wish for me to put more effort into proving the notability of Reno city council member Jenny Brekhus, I will do so. She is a long-serving and prominent member of the Reno city council. Reno is a large and growing city and the largest city in Nevada outside Clark County.Politically speaking, Reno is the largest city in both Northern Nevada and Washoe County, and Washoe is a swing county, in a key swing state. Councilmember Brekhus made national headlines this summer by publicly calling for President Trump to not come to Reno. I would rather see it that wikipedia approve her article without needing to out her as a fierce critic of the President in a politically volatile place like Reno. However, if wikipedia continues to refuse to publish the article, I will make her Trump criticism part of the article and add several more citations.
If you feel that Councilmember Brekhus is not notable enough to have a wikipedia page, I would Staunchly disagree with you. Her fellow council member David Bobzien has a wikipedia article. The Mayor of Reno, who is a member of the council, has a wikipedia article and was recently profiled by Politico as one of America's most interesting mayors. Reno is a notable city with a notable council, and Jenny Brekhus is a notable member of that council. I would strongly encourage you to reconsider your rejection of this article on notability grounds.
Sfsofnv — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfsofnv (talk • contribs) 01:01, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- If you read my comment on the decline I say that "a number of the external links could be used as sources instead which would help with notability" The sources you have used do NOT establish notability they are not independent. The fact that other poor articles exist is not a good reason to create another sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 08:54, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Sfsofnv: The article on David Bobzien is VERY poor quality, it has only four references none of which mention him and it should probably be deleted.Theroadislong (talk) 20:50, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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Article you reviewed
Hi,
You reviewed an article I posted and raised a few questions about sources.
I have now provided some independent sources that are not written by the journalist that refer to him and to his work.
Would that be sufficient?
Kind regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asda3991 (talk • contribs) 23:24, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
04:29:33, 13 December 2017 review of submission by Innocent Cuty
Dear Theroadislong
As per your suggestion, some up to date and concrete references have been inserted to the text, the readability has been improved. Therefore, I seek your guidance in this regard as well as requesting for its re-review.
Thanking you in anticipation
Sincerely yours
- the tone is still inappropriate, I'll let another reviewer have a look. Theroadislong (talk) 09:29, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
how to make it right?
Hi,
thank you for your feedback on the page i'm trying to make (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:MyMachine) As I'm trying to get it right, what is/are the phrase(s) that makes it read differently than for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_For_All
thank you for clarifying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Woolf (talk • contribs) 16:45, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- The problem is that both the articles your draft and the Teach For All article are both written like adverts, I have tagged that one now. Articles need to be written in a neutral tone refereing to independent sources. Sentences like "Through the choice of not incorporating a substantive framework nor a competition element into the model, MyMachine stimulates the empowerment of all students involved who are invited to be entrepreneurial in bringing the ideas to life is not encyclopaedic but pure marketing speak, we just need the dry facts. Theroadislong (talk) 16:51, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback. Working on it now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Woolf (talk • contribs) 17:56, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Rationale for Rejecting Gilson (Company) page?
Theroadislong,
Earlier today, you rejected the draft I wrote for Gilson Inc., saying that it reads too much like an advertisement.
I am wondering if you could give me examples of what specific areas read too much like an advertisement, so I can fix those problem areas and resubmit?
When I wrote the draft, I kept Wikipedia's guidelines regarding neutrality in mind. I modeled the page very closely after Eppendorf's, which does not have any flags indicating problems with the page. My intention was not to write an advertisement for Gilson, but to share the story of a company that developed and manufacturers a research tool that is used by virtually every laboratory scientist in the world who works with liquids.
Any guidance on how to revise this page to meet Wikipedia's guidelines would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, Ben — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cglife.bmarcus (talk • contribs) 20:31, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- The article is mostly sourced from their own website, Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about it in reliable places. If you could find more independent references it would be an improvement. Theroadislong (talk) 20:44, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I've seen the message you left on my draft page. Don't worry, the work is still in progress. We are working on the sections in these days. Thank you :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martina.straffi99 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
21:38:13, 14 December 2017 review of submission by JazCuev
Hello! Thank you for the feedback. Can you help me with this? What does my article need exactly in order for it to be approved?
- The links in the grey box at the top of your draft Draft:Lil Toenail tell you all you need to know. Your draft has no references at all, Wikipedia articles are constructed using independent sources. In order to demonstrate notability, you need to provide references to articles written about Lil_Toenail in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books, etc. 21:42, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
07:43:09, 15 December 2017 review of submission by Kgkg90
Request on 10:24:12, 15 December 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by RohitRaiWef
- RohitRaiWef (talk · contribs)
Hi, Theroadislong - Could you please guide me for what reason my article submission rejected and what are the improvement checklist or else advice what to remove from my article in order to get published without any obstacle.
RohitRaiWef (talk) 10:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- Have you read the comments on your draft? Draft:Women Economic Forum it explains there why I rejected the article, it reads like an advert and it has an enormously long un-encyclopaedic list of participants. Theroadislong (talk) 12:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi Theroadislong. After some clean up and expansion, I'm going to WP:IAR, move this into article space, and let it take its chances. I'd give it better than a 50/50 chance of not being taken to AfD and at least a 50/50 chance of surviving if it were to be. This is mainly because of the under-served subject matter and the fact that her composition has been recorded on a notable label, its score has been re-published in modern times, it's still being played in concerts, and apparently was also broadcast on the BBC. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:02, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- Yep...go for it, no objections from this end, I just wasn't entirely confident enough to accept. Cheers. Theroadislong (talk) 15:17, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. We'll see what happens to it here in the Wacky World of Wikipedia. Hopefully, it will be OK. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:39, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Article Walterschied
I have worked on this page correcting citations per format, researched to add additional sources, used credible sources as the Wall Street Journal, Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, Jet and Deadline Hollywood. The individual of which this article is based is far more significant than many others that Wikipedia has approved pages about. I have written articles for Variety, Editorial for Los Angles Times and contributed on a three part piece in the Arts and Entertainment Section of the NY Times along with being a contributing editor for Ebony Magazine. I am unsure as to why I am running into so many issues with Wikipedia. As a active supporter and donate to Wilkipedia I am a little dishearten at this point. Could you please provide any tips that would be of assistance. I have thoroughly read all of Wikipedia's support pages and am following the advice provided therein. Thank you for your anticipated reply. I have more article I would like to contribute but want to get over this first hurdle first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonreillythr (talk • contribs) 18:51, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- Have you read WP:REFB? Despite repeated requests your references are still incorrectly formatted and some are not references at all. We need publisher details of books and magazines included in the citations, but more problematic is that Scott Walterschied doesn't appear to pass the general notability guidelines.Theroadislong (talk) 19:07, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Request on 20:18:11, 15 December 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Ljugador
I just added all the references to Thomas W. Valente's article in WORD and plan to cut/paste in here. The Endnote references are formatted "[1]", not superscript. Will that be a problem? Ljugador (talk) 20:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Ljugador (talk) 20:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- It's not clear to me what you are proposing but I'm fairly sure it won't work, please read WP:REFB for help with formatting sources. Theroadislong (talk) 20:31, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
22:39:19, 15 December 2017 review of submission by Ktonmedia
Can you tell me why the reference wasn't adequate enough?
Ktonmedia (talk) 22:39, 15 December 2017 (UTC)Kris
- Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in multiple published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. A single reference is not sufficient to establish notability. Theroadislong (talk) 22:43, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Draft:Charter_rights - done.
Can you pleas delete this draft? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.143.98.143 (talk) 23:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Draft: David DeMarli
Hi there,
My entry for the draft page 'David DeMarli' was rejected. Can you please specify each category and entry that was not in-keeping with the Wiki methodology?
I am happy to then either find 'secondary' source material (or) delete the questionable section - But I must be made aware which section is questionable and why.
Hope this helps with the speedy publication of this page.
Regards, D Mitchell — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ Mitchell (talk • contribs) 17:53, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
- The draft has one reference which doesn't mention him, we require multiple in-depth coverage about him in sources independent of the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 08:33, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
A note
Me thinks that this ought to be accepted and have main-spaced on re-submission! Can you clarify a bit?Winged BladesGodric 06:47, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Which article are you talking about? Theroadislong (talk) 08:34, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for your helpful annotations, I appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:CA:4F1E:701:78D4:9524:4A38:6A92 (talk) 10:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Dear Thereodislong,
Thank you for reviewing my draft Draft:Bancroft (TV Series). As may be quite obvious this is my first attempt at creating an entry. I have added some sources for the article and would much appreciate a re-review. Many thanks in advance.
DHWorth (talk) 11:51, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Draft for Shehab Khan
Hi Theroadislong,
The alterations you suggested for the page have been made and sources have been changed so they are not written by the subject.
There are currently 10 sources - 9 of which are written by different authors and refer to the subject directly. These include articles from national media organisations and posts from universities.
In your opinion do you think that would suffice?
Best wishes, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asda3991 (talk • contribs) 13:17, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Welcome
Thank you for your help! Looking forward to improving the article and Wikipedia. Your username says it all... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Encyclopediaeditor456 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Draft:Bancroft (TV Series)
Dear Thereodislong,
Thank you for reviewing my draft Draft:Bancroft (TV Series). As may be quite obvious this is my first attempt at creating an entry. I have added some sources for the article and would much appreciate a re-review. Many thanks in advance.
DHWorth (talk) 14:04, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
The International Pediatric Ophthalmology and Strabismus Council
Hi, I drafted the page The International Pediatric Ophthalmology and Strabismus Council and I've tried rephrasing the contest as much as I can from a neutral POV and language. Is there a specific section of the draft that you believe violates the copyright clause? The main IPOSC website is also public domain. I am not sure how to continue from here. Please advise. Eyecare10 (talk) 15:16, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- My concerns were that it was written like an advert, when you have a conflict of interest or even when you don't, forget everything you know about them. It's best to search for newspaper or magazine articles or internet content that discuss the subject, not their own website. Basically Wikipedia has no interest in what the organisation wants to say about itself, (ie. it's goals and aims) but only what independent reliable sources have to say about it. Theroadislong (talk) 16:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
20:01:32, 18 December 2017 review of submission by Trainerguy
- Trainerguy (talk · contribs)
The feedback notes that the article is written more as advertisement, and references the fact that they should be written in a neutral tone with third party reference. I'd like to make this article comply, and I certainly don't want it sounding like ad copy, so I'd be interested in feedback about why it was declined.
Just about every point in the article includes a reference to a third party news site verifying the content, and the few that aren't referenced didn't seem that significant. As well, I was trying to write it in such a way that it was consistent with other articles about software companies, so I'd love feedback on the points that come across as biased, salesy, or inappropriate. Can you point me to specific sections that are examples of unacceptable style or unverified content?
I'd like to resubmit it with changes that make it suitable, so any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
- Sorry but the whole article reads like it was written by somebody who works there. Theroadislong (talk) 20:06, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
references are genuine
Given links/reference are genuine and supports the facts mentioned in the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.2.236.196 (talk) 09:11, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
thanks and request for immediate assistance
Hi Theoroadislong,
Thank you for your feedback on my first draft. I am completely aware that autobiographies are discouraged by Wikipedia but this is to certify this all the information provided by me was factually correct.
After my recent contribution as an Actor on an Indian Television Channel, it has been brought to my notice that audience has started looking me up on google(thus, in turn, wikipedia) and I, would not appreciate them coming across wrong information about me. It is therefore only apt that the such traffic meets with right and correct information as it is going to change their perception of me or my show, 'Woh Apna Sa' which airs regularly on ZeeTv(India).
I would therefor like the editors, such as yourself to assist me converting this draft into a successful article and help me present right information about myself.Bhavyasachdeva08 (talk) 10:07, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. There are plenty of social-networking sites like Facebook where you can do that, Wikipedia is different - a project to build an encyclopedia. This is explained at Wikipedia is not about YOU and Wikipedia:Autobiography. Theroadislong (talk) 10:14, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
I wish to delete my comments so they are NOT in the public domain
Many thanks & best wishes! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MJSC123 (talk • contribs) 10:37, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- It will need a LOT more reliable sources first, the sources you have included do not demonstrate that the subject meets our guidelines for notability. Normally, this is done by showing that the band has received sustained in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources. Theroadislong (talk) 10:47, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Help on draft validation Camilo Ricordi
Hi Theroadislong, thanks for your tip on how to make more interesting / valid my first page about Camilo Ricordi. I have added some changes there and just wanted to drop you a line to see if is ok now or still need some improvements from my side. Thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaraGWik (talk • contribs) 14:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- Please read WP:REFB for help with formatting the references which are bare url at the moment.Theroadislong (talk) 15:20, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Request on 16:22:37, 19 December 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Kooligan123
- Kooligan123 (talk · contribs)
Hi, thanks for the advice, just a beginner and trying to get my head around all this. Does an entry and cataloging at the British Library count as 'notable'? Thank you!
Kooligan123 (talk) 16:22, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- It helps, but what we really need is to demonstrate that the subject meets our guidelines for notability. Normally, this is done by showing that the magazine has received sustained in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources. So a listing in British Library is not sufficient on it's own. Theroadislong (talk) 16:25, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Will Erwin Headache Research Foundation References
I have added two newspaper mentions of the Will Erwin Headache Research Foundation.
Also, I wanted to point out that the Will Erwin Headache Research Foundation and the Will Erwin Headache Research Center are not the same thing. The center is run by Memorial Hermann, and is named after Will Erwin who took his life.
This article is about the foundation. I hope that isn't too confusing.
--Longstation (talk) 18:56, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Draft for Shehab Khan altered
Hi,
You left a comment on my article saying that The Sun and Facebook were not considered reliable sources.
These have now been removed.
Is the draft now acceptable?
Kind regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asda3991 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick review of my article
We'll strive to become more notable and try again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cramshorn (talk • contribs) 20:42, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
20:42:34, 19 December 2017 review of submission by PrajwalMohan
- PrajwalMohan (talk · contribs)
I have added references as requested — Preceding unsigned comment added by PrajwalMohan (talk • contribs) 20:42, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Notice
I'd like you to know, I just need a stub, and a Wikipedia user-created group written by that user doesn't have any sources. Please approve it. GermanGamer77 21:13, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Camillo Ricordi Article
Good evening:
I'am writing to enquire about the activitation of my article on Camillo Ricordi. I think that I correctly made the changes you requested. Can you let me know if it is ok? What more can I do to get this approved?
Please let me know so that I can fix whatever you need.
Thank you! SaraGWik (talk) 23:06, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
- Your draft has three references the first is to a paper he wrote, (a primary source) the second is a Wikipedia article (Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference) the third is to Youtube which is not a reliable source. In order to demonstrate notability, you need to provide references to articles written about Camillo Ricordi in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books, etc. Theroadislong (talk) 09:32, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
In-depth coverage
What do you mean by in-depth coverage? Martinc1994 (talk) 08:19, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
- The links to follow are in the grey box at the top of your draft article. In order to demonstrate notability, you need to provide references to articles written about Danielle Judovits in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books, etc. The two sources you have used, are user generated content and not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 09:27, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks
Hii theroadislong! thank you for alerting me to my mistake. i really appreciate it and ive fixed it now :). i hope u dont mind me asking..... im new to wikipedia. is the draft now acceptable? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shallnotbenamed (talk • contribs) 10:27, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
12:44:31, 22 December 2017 review of submission by Georginablue25
Hi Theroadislong,
Do you have any specific recommendations on how I can improve this article to have it approved?
Thanks
- There are helpful links in the grey box of the decline at Draft:Spaceslide. We need multiple in-depth coverage in independent sources. The current sources come no where near establishing notability. Theroadislong (talk) 12:49, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Paul Jean Daverio
Hello and many thanks for looking into my article! I have an obvious problem with grasping what you mean when you say that seven articles are by himself: he is a researcher and I am naming the texts he has published about his research, both in the art history field and the, more relevant, medical field where he is very notorious in transgender circles and named in a number of chat forums to be one of the world's top surgeons if you need a new penis (sorry, that is his specialty but it is quite necessary, isn't it, whether you lost it by accident -burns etc.- or never had one). So how can I prove that? In the German speaking world (I have put him already on German wikipedia) I had less problems as there are also articles which speak about his approach, very respectful, to anybody who feels he is in the wrong body, but how to quote those in the English wikipedia? Is it useful at all? Many thanks again for your help!!! Drakegreune (talk) 13:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
- I think the English Wikipedia may be stricter in it's following of guidelines. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about it, in reliable places, so his own works do not establish his notability only others reporting on them can do that. Theroadislong (talk) 13:35, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
18:13:37, 22 December 2017 review of submission by Wikilover2604
Hi, thanks for taking the time out to review Buchalter. I followed the exact pattern of Goldberg Segalla who is a close competitor of the company and whose page has been there for a while. Is that incorrect? Law360 which is a major publication for legal news has covered Buchalter frequently. In California, it is one of the top 10 law firms. So notability (hopefully) should not be an issue. It is to do with how I have written it perhaps. I will definitely rework this. But any suggestions that you can give me? I am relatively new here so trying to learn Wikilover2604 (talk) 18:13, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
- You have not chosen a good article on which to base yours, Goldberg Segalla was full of promotional links and written in list format, please see [WP:Other stuff exists]]. Such is the disdain that when you are being paid to edit the bar will be set much higher too. Theroadislong (talk) 18:22, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Cornshed sisters draft
Hi! I drafted a page which was declined for publication. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on why and how to fix it. The page was clearly of interest - this is a band with two albums, that has appeared on a film soundtrack and on the BBC, whose members are present or former members of well-known bands - so I can't see the issue. But I'd appreciate a bit of guidance to resolve it. Thanks. JamesLance (talk) 03:01, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- Your draft contains a number of Wikipedia references, these need to be replaced, (Wikipedia is not a reliable source) also Twitter. Allmusic and Youtube are not reliable sources either, see WP:BAND for the notability guidelines for bands. Theroadislong (talk) 08:02, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Arishfa khan
hey this is chiranjiv i want to create an article about mys sister she is an actress her name is arishfa khan so can you help me to write an articlejivarshu 19:24, 23 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiranjiv138 (talk • contribs)
- I'm afraid your sister doesn't appear to pass the Wikipedia guidelines for inclusion. Theroadislong (talk) 20:13, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
23:49:06, 23 December 2017 review of submission by Pearl ally
- Pearl ally (talk · contribs)
The submission's referencing was improved as advised, and I added a few more. More information on his teachings and publications were added. The page exists in 3 other Wikipedia:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Russell
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Russell
https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Russell
In-depth coverage
I added RPG Site. Is that a reliable source?
In-depth coverage
I added RPG Site. Is that a reliable source? Martinc1994 (talk) 07:19, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Compulsive Hoarding
Hi Theroadislong I have just tried to correct and update my url in the last 30 mins from cityclearances.com to averyassociates.co.uk but I see you may have thought it was not a legitimate correction, would you kindly take another look and reconsider the action I appreciate your assistance in this matter jeffreyavery53 Jeffreyavery53 (talk) 14:49, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- It looked like spam to me i.e..promoting your own website. Theroadislong (talk) 14:52, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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St Lawrence Shakespeare Festival
Hi. You rejected my article because you believed it sounded more like an advertisement than an article. I disagree, and unfortunately you have given no facts in support of your opinion. This is, in itself, a violation of first principles of Wikipedia, regarding the emphasis of evidence over opinion. So, here are my facts. First, let's look at the article. Why does it seem like advertising? There is only factual information here---it has information attesting to the importance of the Festival (an essential qualification for Wikipedia articles), about the origins of the festival, and some brief information about the fifteen-year history of the festival, including its leadership and the highlights of their contributions, as well as mentions some of the more significant productions. In no way does it advertise upcoming seasons. That is exactly the sort of information that I would write (on a different scale) if I were preparing an article on any theatre company. Second, while I find it distasteful to cite my credentials as point of debate, it seems necessary in this case, because you have effectively suggested that I do not know how to write an article about a theatre company. I don't know upon what basis you have made this judgement, because you simply deleted my work with that sneer about advertising and without offering a single helpful comment. But the fact is that I certainly do know what an article about a theatre company needs. I am a full professor at Queen's University, I have a PhD in Drama and have edited a great number of encyclopedia articles and written contributions to various journals. So, please tell me about the factual basis upon which you have made your decision and perhaps you would also be so good as to explain what your credentials are to make this judgement. Craig Walker (talk) 18:25, 25 December 2017 (UTC)