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{{hat|[[User:SashiRolls]] is indefinitely blocked. The first year of the block is an arbitration enforcement action. After the first year, he may appeal to any uninvolved administrator. [[User:GoldenRing|GoldenRing]] ([[User talk:GoldenRing|talk]]) 13:49, 23 June 2017 (UTC)}} |
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::::Okay, you've convinced me. [[User:SashiRolls]] is indeffed, with the first year as an arbitration enforcement action. He can appeal here or at [[WP:AN]] immediately, or to any uninvolved administrator in a year's time. |
::::Okay, you've convinced me. [[User:SashiRolls]] is indeffed, with the first year as an arbitration enforcement action. He can appeal here or at [[WP:AN]] immediately, or to any uninvolved administrator in a year's time. |
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::::I've spent some time digging through the contributions of [[User:Timothyjosephwood]] for evidence of outing around the 19th of December and I sure can't see whatever's supposed to be there. Posting a diff and saying the outing happened "shortly after" that diff is about as useless as just casting aspersions. [[User:GoldenRing|GoldenRing]] ([[User talk:GoldenRing|talk]]) 09:56, 23 June 2017 (UTC) |
::::I've spent some time digging through the contributions of [[User:Timothyjosephwood]] for evidence of outing around the 19th of December and I sure can't see whatever's supposed to be there. Posting a diff and saying the outing happened "shortly after" that diff is about as useless as just casting aspersions. [[User:GoldenRing|GoldenRing]] ([[User talk:GoldenRing|talk]]) 09:56, 23 June 2017 (UTC) |
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FreeatlastChitchat
Blocked for two weeks and User:FreeatlastChitchat/sandbox deleted. GoldenRing (talk) 19:07, 18 June 2017 (UTC) |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning FreeatlastChitchat
Clear violation of topic ban. D4iNa4 (talk) 04:57, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Discussion concerning FreeatlastChitchatStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by FreeatlastChitchatStatement by RhoarkSome refs added to a sandbox page? seriously? Rhoark (talk) 05:27, 18 June 2017 (UTC) Statement by SagecandorHave to agree here with Dennis Brown and GoldenRing. Wouldn't normally think so for sandbox, but after the warning given by Lord Roem, makes sense in this particular case. Suggestion: Unless you want to talk with the user and make an allowance per {{2nd chance}}, to edit within userspace for express purpose of suggested improvements to articles for trial period, perhaps with a mentor or two. Sagecandor (talk) 14:26, 18 June 2017 (UTC) Statement by Seraphim SystemCan someone explain how adding refs to a sandbox page is disruptive? It seems a little unhealthy to file an AE complaint over something like this. Can the editor who filed the complaint explain why he felt it was necessary? Seraphim System (talk) 14:51, 18 June 2017 (UTC) @Dennis Brown: Thanks. Seraphim System (talk) 17:54, 18 June 2017 (UTC) Statement by (username)Result concerning FreeatlastChitchat
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Nableezy
Withdrawn by the submitter, Davidbena. EdJohnston (talk) 02:23, 19 June 2017 (UTC) |
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Request concerning Nableezy
Discussion concerning nableezyStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by nableezyStatement by KingsindianThe "consensus required" provision has been dropped in a more recent ARCA. The normal rules about WP:ONUS and edit-warring etc. still apply. In any case, consensus is usually achieved on the talk page, not at AE. I see no attempt at a talk page discussion. If you feel the earlier phrasing was better, create a section on the talkpage and make your argument there. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 01:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC) Statement by Malik Shabazz(edit conflict) I recommend dismissing this complaint, perhaps with a warning to the complainant. He fails to cite a sanction or remedy he would like enforced, and he doesn't know the difference between a policy and a guideline. I don't see any problem with the diff he cites -- replacing a POV-pushing passive-voice account with one that uses the active voice to place blame where, according to the reliable sources, it belongs. "There was a struggle between X and Y, and a fire erupted" is almost always inferior to "X attacked Y and set fire to his fields" if that's what the sources say. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 01:15, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Statement by SagecandorDiffs of previous relevant sanctions appears blank. Complaint gives one (1) diff. Probably not enough prior steps of dispute resolution taken here yet. Maybe try WP:Third opinion or WP:Request for comment. Sagecandor (talk) 01:34, 19 June 2017 (UTC) Statement by (username)Result concerning nableezy
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SashiRolls
User:SashiRolls is indefinitely blocked. The first year of the block is an arbitration enforcement action. After the first year, he may appeal to any uninvolved administrator. GoldenRing (talk) 13:49, 23 June 2017 (UTC) |
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Request concerning SashiRolls
Summary: Pattern of engaging in personal attacks, WP:Casting aspersions, ad hominem, and (self-admitted) WP:WIKIHOUNDING. [20] [21]
Prior behavior with multiple editors
Discussion concerning SashiRollsStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by SashiRollsI agree that after having been accused of WP:WIKIHOUNDING without evidence, and having noticed that Sage accuses a lot of people of this, I have indeed decided to follow his contributions to the encyclopedia. I would remind Salvidrim! that linking off-wiki is frowned upon based on WP:LINKLOVE. This behavioral guideline contains the root "harass" 26 times and the word "critic" once (as legitimate "critique" contained in a table heading). In no way do I think my behavior at Bibliography of Donald Trump or at Talk:Bibliography of Donald Trump (my first ever intervention on a Trump page unless I'm mistaken) was inappropriate. Wikipedia users who are readers far outnumber Wikipedia contributors. The reader should always be kept in mind. It is therefore important to make readers aware of who the authors of many of the book review entries mentioned on the page are:
I would suggest that administrators kindly but forcefully suggest Sagecandor employ their skills on topics other than US-Russian relations and Donald Trump, as they have already done their work here. As for an I-Ban, if it is two-way, no problem. I'm not looking for conflict with Sagecandor. I want the community to be aware of what they are doing. SashiRolls (talk) 15:10, 22 June 2017 (UTC) There is nothing creepy about sifting through the diffs that are publicly available by design in order to make our readers aware of "on whose authority" our articles have been compiled. There is absolutely nothing personal in the list above. I have not called it creepy that each book review entry took about 10 minutes to prepare and occupied a tiny part of a very long day editing elsewhere. I have not sought to identify anyone working through the Sagecandor account as a RW person. They are obviously very motivated having created all sorts of categories critical of DT (Music, Books, Films, Works, Parodies) as I mentioned on the talk page. An I-Ban has the effect of preventing a reasonably good copy-editor from paring the text down to size a bit, but that's OK. I'm not very interested in Donald Trump. What is creepy: TimothyJosephWood's satirical outing of me in December. (A schoolyard play on my real name + that of my mother) sort of a "we know who you are" type edit". I will be happy to provide evidence to Arbcom should that be necessary, but I think we need to move on. I did not start this AE drama; Prosecutor Sagecandor did. (once again: they have appeared in 17 AE cases now in their 80 days in the project, 7 as special prosecutor.) Though they have been taken to ANI several times, I've never sought to prosecute them. (Though on the page in question Talk:Bibliography of Donald Trump, they are guilty of restoring contested content without consensus, though I gather that rule has been recently overruled.) SashiRolls (talk) 16:39, 22 June 2017 (UTC) What is also creepy: Statements with no evidence from (very) involved editors... such as several below, including Neutrality full diff corresponding to what he added from last year, VM, TJW, Objective 3000 (ps: the case is about my right to assemble publicly available diffs to show our readers who has authored encyclopedic entries and categories of entries, nothing more. If it gets to be a big thing I'll add more evidence of astroturfing). With regard to being here to build an encyclopedia my most recent contribution was a translation to French of an English article I added to English Wikipedia. It involves a trade union in Haiti. There is enough time since the events involved that it is WP:NOTNEWS. The overwhelming emphasis of a lot of editors on news, especially partisan issues, is unfortunate. SashiRolls (talk) 18:21, 22 June 2017 (UTC) Power~enwiki I encourage you to check out the previous cases so you'll be able to determine whether they too were mostly puffery or not. In any case, time has been served for those alleged sins (I was not permitted to appeal the 6-month block, in fact)... I was denied all talk-page access for 6 months, which suggests to me hat Wikipedia prefers that all healthy criticism occur off-wiki. Of course if we prefer having power-users who call themselves contributors but others (like you) as depersonalized "users", well that's the way the psy-ops work these days...
An example of how links to SC's book reviews have been included willy-nilly on pages that are completely unrelated: here is an example of such astro-turfing on Tulsi Gabbard. I gather it was one of a dozen such edits. I mention this because the contributor involved was active in both of the delete discussions above. SashiRolls (talk) 21:20, 22 June 2017 (UTC) Statement by BullRangiferThis is an especially egregious demonstration of NOTHERE. Support sanctions. SashiRolls has no right to suggest another editor change editing areas. Subject experts are welcome here, and if an editor adds good content, without creating disruption, then they are welcome to do so. -- BullRangifer (talk) 15:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Statement by TimothyjosephwoodWell... I'm not going to have any hurt feelings over an indef. The above is just creepy AF, and this is starting to get into actual real life stalking. If there's a compelling reason to keep Sashi around I'm not seeing it... not now... all of 48 hours after their block expired. The time other editors have spent on this exact shit right here outweighs their positive contributions tenfold. TimothyJosephWood 15:22, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Statement by Dennis BrownI did the last block and not technically involved but think it best that other eyes review. For the record, the last block was for 6 months, had a strong consensus at WP:AE, and was done as a NON-Arb Enforcement block. It can be found here. There was some confusion on his talk page about whether it was an AE block or not, but it absolutely was a traditional block, just done at AE because it seemed unnecessary to move the case to a new venue once it has already started. As for the merits herein, I have no comment. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 15:45, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Statement by Capitals00@GoldenRing: Topic ban can be indefinie and also an indefinite AE block can be made too, but this kind of block can be overturned by any admin after 1 year and 1 second, but not before 1 year. Capitals00 (talk) 16:30, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Statement by NeutralityI'll keep this short. I am involved as to SashiRolls. Suffice it to say this user has demonstrated that he or she is not here to build an encyclopedia, has had multiple opportunities to change behavior, and has refused to do so. My comment here is illustrative of what we are looking at here. I support an indefinite ban. Neutralitytalk 17:23, 22 June 2017 (UTC) Statement by Power~enwikiI agree that SashiRolls made several edits out of line immediately after a 6-month ban, and should probably be blocked completely. I disagree strongly with an interaction-ban. I have had disputes with Sagecandor in the past (Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive956#Sagecandor). I find these "Hounding" accusations misguided. Sagecandor has edited or created almost all the Donald Trump-related book pages. An interaction ban is inappropriate due to it being equivalent to a topic-ban, possibly with political implications. Sagecandor's case for an IBAN is full of puffery. He is exceedingly quick to file unnecessary [35] escalations in response to any comments [36] . Sagecandor also recently made a series of trivial edits [37] in quick succession [38], behavior I often take suspiciously. Some of this is Sagecandor's tendency to make bold statements and later word them more cautiously. [39]. This request was appropriate, but the forum may not have been. I am worried that Sagecandor may continue his trend of escalating disagreements more often than is necessary. Power~enwiki (talk) 18:51, 22 June 2017 (UTC) (amended Power~enwiki (talk) 20:15, 22 June 2017 (UTC)) Statement by Volunteer MarekStalking and harassing editors - which is what we definitely have here - isn't just IBAN worthy, it's sufficient for an indef ban, especially since SashiRolls appears to have no intention of stopping. IBAN will just result in more drama as people start to try to Wiki-lawyer it or tiptoe on the edges of it just enough to be irritating but observing "the letter" of it. You can look forward to numerous future WP:AE request if you do just an IBAN. Furthermore, as evidenced by other users' comments, SashiRolls' problematic behavior isn't limited to just their interactions with Sagecandor - it's basically one big WP:NOTHERE which also makes an indef ban more appropriate. Enough.Volunteer Marek (talk) 19:01, 22 June 2017 (UTC) Statement by Objective3000There seems to be a pattern in SashiRoll’s reactions to sanctions, requested and applied. It’s always about other editors. This request is supposed to be about SashiRolls. But, the response was a long list of articles by the filer. Changing Statement by to Defendant’s and using the word prosecutor illustrates SashiRoll’s attitude toward any corrective action. Six months doesn’t seem to have been enough time for an attitude change, even after a ban from their own Talk Page. Objective3000 (talk) 19:56, 22 June 2017 (UTC) Statement by TryptofishIt boggles my mind that we are back here so quickly after the previous block expired. I agree with all the other editors who say that this is in NOTHERE territory, something that I have been seeing since a long time ago with this user. I think that an IBAN will just mean that we will be back here again, very soon. It's not enough. There is no reason that I know of why AE cannot consider an indefinite block, and an enacting administrator could issue it. Please do not kick the can down the road. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:31, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Result concerning SashiRolls
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