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Username walks the line of [[WP:UAA]]. Editor appears to be slowly turning the article into an advert for the college. Warned about COI, continued editing with no communication. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C5:50E8:EE01:7DCA:43EC:BDAF:A739|2A00:23C5:50E8:EE01:7DCA:43EC:BDAF:A739]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C5:50E8:EE01:7DCA:43EC:BDAF:A739|talk]]) 16:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
:I've soft blocked the username - it's not specific to an individual, student worker is a role. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] ([[User talk:Secretlondon|talk]]) 12:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
== User:Dssep ==
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:Please read the talk page on the page, everything is laid out there. [[User:BlairThimper73|BlairThimper73]] ([[User talk:BlairThimper73|talk]]) 16:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
::<small>([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=What_You_Wish_For&diff=prev&oldid=1230571118 AFC reviewer] and involved editor)</small> @[[User:BlairThimper73|BlairThimper73]] despite being warned for [[WP:COI|your interest]], you kept asking proof of COI, while I placed the COI tag with proof. All the time you never tried to [[WP:LISTEN|
:::I'm sorry but I don't see any COI. What is COI on the page as it stands currently? There is none. The page has almost zero contribution from me now, and what I did initially contribute was just inforamtion. But like I have said, the COI will stand because you want it to. This is not my problem, it is a public resource, not a private forum for your opinion. [[User:BlairThimper73|BlairThimper73]] ([[User talk:BlairThimper73|talk]]) 00:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:BlairThimper73|BlairThimper73]] this is Wikipedia, not your film. Your above statement is [[WP:CIR|inability to understand what is being said]] and against [[WP:CIVIL|good behaviour]]. You seem to be a [[WP:SPA|single purpose account]] to create or edit your films only. [[User:Twinkle1990|Twinkle1990]] ([[User talk:Twinkle1990|talk]]) 14:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
== Emmanuel Samba Zumakpeh ==
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Editor adding unsourced material to this BLP. Editor commented on my Talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tacyarg&diff=prev&oldid=1231428355 ... I am currently in touch with him ... ] Editor has continued to edit the article despite CoI warning. [[User:Tacyarg|Tacyarg]] ([[User talk:Tacyarg|talk]]) 16:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
== Vitaliy Khomutynnik ==
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[[Vitaliy Khomutynnik]]'s article has attracted COI/UPEs in the past to white wash his biography and they were blocked for violations. Now, a user with just 298 edits (User:Jenes) has whitewashed the article again from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vitaliy_Khomutynnik&oldid=1148713052 this] to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vitaliy_Khomutynnik&oldid=1165193284 this]. One of the sock even [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:KaterynaS&oldid=1149110408 disclosed the payment status]. Can we investigate/revert this obvious sock? More eyes the better. [[Special:Contributions/86.97.145.183|86.97.145.183]] ([[User talk:86.97.145.183|talk]]) 21:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
== Draft:Centre for Voters Initiative & Action (CVIA) ==
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This is a blatent COI article, and this user has already been banned from editing an article created on him. <span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px blue; font-family:Papyrus color:#3399ff">[[User:OnlyNano|OnlyNano]]<sup>[[User_talk:OnlyNano|talk]]</sup></span> 21:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
== [[Marco Camisani Calzolari]] ==
One of the creators of this new BLP (which I tagged while [[WP:NPP|patrolling]]) has helpfully declared that they are a [[WP:PAY|paid]] editor. Am I right in assuming that such an article should be moved to [[WP:AFC]]? thanks. [[User:Aszx5000|Aszx5000]] ([[User talk:Aszx5000|talk]]) 08:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
== [https://www.entrepreneur.com/en-in/technology/the-hidden-world-of-wikipedia-page-creation-services/476484 The Hidden World of Wikipedia Page Creation Services] ==
''"This is where Maximatic Media's expertise comes into play, crafting pages that not only go live but remain intact against the scrutiny of Wikipedia's dedicated community of editors and administrators."''
For the interested. Sadly, the writer never asked about if they follow [[WP:PAID]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 12:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:I'd go even further and say it's downright malpractice to write a whole article about undisclosed paid editing and not mention that it is banned. Maximatic Media doesn't disclose their username [https://maximaticmedia.com/wikipedia-publishing-service/ where they advertise their services] and therefore are violating [[Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#Disclosures to clients]]. But [[WP:RSP#Entrepreneur]] tells me that this is a self-published content mill, so it's probably no use trying to get it corrected. – [[User:Joe Roe|Joe]] <small>([[User talk:Joe Roe|talk]])</small> 12:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::Well you know, there's that ''delicate balance'' between doing stuff they can get paid for and other stuff. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 12:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::I don't know if this outfit 'Maximatic Media' is already on our radar. It's not on [[WP:PAIDLIST]] and I couldn't find any previous discussion of it, but they might just have changed their name. [https://maximaticmedia.com/a-newbie-friendly-guide-to-creating-and-self-publishing-your-own-wikipedia-page/ A Newbie-Friendly Guide to Creating and Self-Publishing Your Own Wikipedia Page] claims they are "a somewhat renown [sic] Wikipedia editor" and implies they have access to an account that's "been around for 7+ years and has made 3,000+ edits across various existing pages alongside the 300+ pages they've created and published themselves". Of course, they all say that, but the actually-quite-good knowledge of our policies and how to circumvent them on display in that article suggests it might not be total bullshit this time. – [[User:Joe Roe|Joe]] <small>([[User talk:Joe Roe|talk]])</small> 13:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
See [https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/culture/how-maximatic-media-is-redefining-music-pr-an-inside-look-into-the-boutique-pr-firm-38879/ this super-gross ''Rolling Stone'' UK piece] with a tiny disclaimer at the bottom "Stream Publishing not involved in this content" i.e. it's churnalism under their name. Of course, [[User:Bri/What's wrong with undisclosed paid editing#SEO, reputation management and Wikipedia|reputation management]] is Maximatic's business; their Wikipedia page creation service is listed under the wonderful sub-heading "Mastering Online Reputation Management". ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Bri|Bri]]</span> ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 17:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:So band spam? [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] ([[User talk:Secretlondon|talk]]) 17:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
== Yousuf Bhailok ==
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To quote edit summaries {{tq|I am his assistant. I have updated more about him}} and {{tq|This is the real version for yousuf Bhailok. I am his election campaign manager}}, both left while turning the article into a hagiography. [[Special:Contributions/81.187.192.168|81.187.192.168]] ([[User talk:81.187.192.168|talk]]) 18:06, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:The slur by association in that article is terrible and certainly was correctly removed. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] ([[User talk:Secretlondon|talk]]) 18:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::IE the controversy section which is all about someone else. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] ([[User talk:Secretlondon|talk]]) 18:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Agreed. I hesitated to remove it entirely due to it being sourced (people get ''weird'' when an IP removes sourced information, even when it's as terrible as that para was) and am happy that it now has been. The hagiography that replaced the entire article a few edits earlier is now something to watch for in case it returns, in my opinion. [[Special:Contributions/81.187.192.168|81.187.192.168]] ([[User talk:81.187.192.168|talk]]) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Okay. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] ([[User talk:Secretlondon|talk]]) 18:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
== Marathon Asset Management ==
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This user has been adding advertising (or at least very spammy Title Case Industry Jargon) to this article. No communication; reversal is met with instant reversion. Coming here to avoid 3RR issues. [[Special:Contributions/81.187.192.168|81.187.192.168]] ([[User talk:81.187.192.168|talk]]) 20:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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David W. Bates
- David W. Bates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- DWB Executive Assistant (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Warned this editor about their obvious conflict of interest and paid editing. They continued to edit the article in question, so here we are. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 13:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I work at Brigham and Women's Hospital and am David Bates's Executive Assistant, so updating his profile is within my normal job purview. I have updated factual information only that was provided to me by Dr. Bates, with proof available. DWB Executive Assistant (talk) 14:01, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Read Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Then make the necessary declaration on your talk page. And then read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Wikipedia does not host 'profiles', it is an encyclopaedia. All content has to be neutrally written, and based on published reliable sources. If you wish to boost Bates' career, you will need to find somewhere else to do so. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have read what you suggested, thank you. And excuse me for using the wrong word, profile. My aim here was simply to provide updated information. DWB Executive Assistant (talk) 14:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have not been directly or indirectly paid to update this entry. DWB Executive Assistant (talk) 14:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Just an hour ago you wrote "
I work at Brigham and Women's Hospital and am David Bates's Executive Assistant, so updating his profile is within my normal job purview
". What has changed in that hour? 81.187.192.168 (talk) 15:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)- Nothing has changed. Can you please tell me how to go about getting updated, factual, verifiable information posted? The information listed was incorrect, so I was only updating it. And I don't know who to "make the necessary declaration on [my] talk page." I am new to this and the attacks are not kind. DWB Executive Assistant (talk) 15:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @DWB Executive Assistant: See this page. By “the affected talk page” it means the “Talk” tab at the top of the article.
- Also, please make sure that your changes can be verified with sources if possible.
- Thanks! Rusty talk contribs 15:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- It seems that the template already has been added on the talk page. Rusty talk contribs 15:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- A quick question: does the use of the username 'DWB Executive Assistant' breach WP:USERNAME?
- (Specifically the part of that policy that states 'that usernames are not allowed on Wikipedia if they [...] only describe a particular role, title, position [...].)
- The user states above that they are literally 'David [W.] Bates's Executive Assistant'. Axad12 (talk) 20:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to shut this account down! Had I known it violated a policy, I obviously would not have used it, but I'm so glad you asked the question! DWB Executive Assistant (talk) 20:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I’d persevere if I was you. At this point all you need to do is familiarise yourself with a few Wikipedia policies (particularly those quoted earlier in this thread), then track down some sources that comply with WP:RS that provide evidence to support the various edits you were trying to make, and then request the changes on the talk page for your boss’ article. Assuming the requested edits are factually correct, not promotional, and can be verified by independent sources then the changes will probably be agreed and your boss will be happy. Plus, you’ll be being paid for editing Wikipedia, while everyone else will be doing it for free. So, as I say, I’d persevere... Axad12 (talk) 21:52, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to shut this account down! Had I known it violated a policy, I obviously would not have used it, but I'm so glad you asked the question! DWB Executive Assistant (talk) 20:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- It seems that the template already has been added on the talk page. Rusty talk contribs 15:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing has changed. Can you please tell me how to go about getting updated, factual, verifiable information posted? The information listed was incorrect, so I was only updating it. And I don't know who to "make the necessary declaration on [my] talk page." I am new to this and the attacks are not kind. DWB Executive Assistant (talk) 15:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Just an hour ago you wrote "
- I have not been directly or indirectly paid to update this entry. DWB Executive Assistant (talk) 14:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have read what you suggested, thank you. And excuse me for using the wrong word, profile. My aim here was simply to provide updated information. DWB Executive Assistant (talk) 14:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Read Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Then make the necessary declaration on your talk page. And then read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Wikipedia does not host 'profiles', it is an encyclopaedia. All content has to be neutrally written, and based on published reliable sources. If you wish to boost Bates' career, you will need to find somewhere else to do so. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
AvePoint
- AvePoint (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- 38.105.223.146 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Hi all! Sorry if this is weird; I've dabbled in Wikipedia editing off and on over the years, but I haven't looked at it for a while, so I'm honestly a little shaky on Wiki markup currently. My main user account is Taciturasa (talk · contribs), although it is currently inactive.
Essentially, I'm here to confirm that this IP belongs to the internal company VPN for AvePoint, and it appears to have provided a large amount of the edits to the AvePoint Wikipedia page (funnily, I just found this out after I poured coffee on my keyboard and almost made an accidental nonsense edit to the page for Adwaita (design language) while trying to clean it up).
I'm disclosing this because I've noticed before that the page kinda reeked of WP:PROMO and WP:COIEDIT. I really appreciate and align myself with Wikipedia's wish for a neutral PoV, and I think the evidence within the special contributions for this IP paint a pretty clear picture.
I think AvePoint as an entity could quite possibly qualify for notability, but it's pretty clear, both with it being known edits have come internally from CoI editors, as well as the advertisement-reading current status of the page, that it may need to be cleared of most of the information within it so it can be written more accurately.
Hope this helps! I'm not sure there's really any reason to notify other editors, since I don't know of the history of the page, but I know for sure this IP is involved, and I am currently this IP, but will certainly do what's needed (on my main account, if needed) to make good on that if you need it.
Will try to respond if there's any questions. Thank you! 38.105.223.146 (talk) 22:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Alexander Smolensky
- Alexander Smolensky (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- 176.204.194.190 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 2001:4bb8:129:749f:b47c:1aa9:5534:ed5c (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 217.196.82.140 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I'm here not knowing where else to go for the best, and in the spirit of WP:DOLT.
These IPs have slowly spent the day removing information from this Russian enemy of Putin. The first edit tried to quote our article Right to be forgotten, which is why I'm mentioning DOLT: they didn't make a legal threat, but I can see why they would want this person, and their location information, removing. This isn't the way to go about it, and I have no idea if we would even consider granting the removal of sourced information in this way, but that's all way above my pay grade and having better editors than I look into this seems a good idea.
I'm only going to inform the IPv4 editors of this thread, as anything else is just me chasing my tale. YMMV, of course. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 18:04, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Pedestrian69
Pedestrian69 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Almost all of this user's contributions through their entire history here have involved promoting Arie and Elise Trouw, including by adding Elise to multiple lists of "Notable" people.
Most recently, the user created the Arie Trouw article for a second time after it was deleted previously, and the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arie_Trouw&oldid=1229987095) was an embarrassing fluff piece that primarily cited Arie's personal website, claimed that him having a musician for a daughter "adds a unique aspect to his public persona", and included meaningless marketing fluff about his work "aiming to integrate physical and digital worlds through blockchain technology". Re-deletion is currently proposed - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Arie_Trouw_(2nd_nomination).
I do not know precisely who this user is, but in my opinion it is obvious from their behaviour alone that they have some personal connection to the Trouw family and are editing for the purpose of promoting Arie and Elise, not for the purpose of improving Wikipedia.
Users have, on multiple occasions, raised COI concerns on the user's talk page. The user has never engaged with those discussions.
I'm not sure what appropriate next steps are, but given that engaging via Talk page has failed repeatedly over multiple years, I figured I should bring this to this Noticeboard for others to discuss. ExplodingCabbage (talk) 20:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- I just blocked Pedestrian69 for continuing to edit on his apparently conflicted topic past the UPE warning without giving a notice either way. Hopefully this will at least get their attention - David Gerard (talk) 08:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Cassandrajoymusic
- Missy Mazzoli (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Cassandrajoymusic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
The following diff comment is what brought my attention to this, theres no reason other than a WP:COI to put that as the edit reason.
The user username leads me to beleive its a company possibly paid for by the person the article is about. TagKnife (talk) 23:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
TrueBlueBabe
- Cherdonna Shinatra (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- TrueBlueBabe (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
The user self identified as the person the page is about in this diff and continues to attempt to remove the content as out-of-date TagKnife (talk) 01:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Jim Sikora
- Jim Sikora (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Blottski (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
This user was warned of COI editing on 3/7/2024 and recently edited the article for Jim Sikora. They have almost exclusively edited the article for Jim Sikora and you can see on their 10/26/2019 edit that they have made edits to the article at Sikora's request. Vegantics (talk) 14:31, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Miguel A. Martínez
- Miguel A. Martínez (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Autodesplanifica (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
User Autodesplanifica contributions is a single purpose account which created a promotional account for a borderline notable academic. Back in April, I deleted the puff and queried whether there was a COI, which seems blatant to me. The user replied that there was not and accused me of vandalism (also by email). Over the weekend they returned to add more uncited promotional material and added a photo. I'd be grateful if somebody could take a look, thanks. Mujinga (talk) 17:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm thanks to @Melcous for querying a few things. I'm not convinced by Autodesplanifica's answer "I just like his work, which I find notable" since Miguel A. Martínez's website links to his twitter which is ... Autodesplan. What a coincidence! Mujinga (talk) 13:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
This is a BLP on a Swiss prodigy for which there is an article on the German Wikipedia, Maximilian Janisch. An English Wikipedia account, Maximilian Janisch (talk · contribs), uploaded a translated version of the German article to Maximilian Janisch, which I tagged for COI. The account owner has openly identified themselves as the BLP subject on their talk page. On the article talk page, they have proposed a 7-day discussion period after which they will remove the COI notice. I have brought it here as I don't think many editors will see the English article. I do notice that a similar named account has edited the German article. Aszx5000 (talk) 10:26, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- For the record I will put some more background information here:
- The article was tagged by User:Aszx5000 within WP:NPP, after it was created through translation of the German article by me.
- I have added a COI box to my user page and the article talk page (in the latter I provide evidence that I am the subject of the article).
- More information and the steps I suggested to alleviate the issue of me being a COI editor can be found at the article talk page.
- --Maximilian Janisch (talk) 10:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Grüezi Maximilian. I don't know how it is on dewiki, but enwiki policy strongly discourages autobiographies like this one. It's good that you disclosed your COI, but you seem to have overlooked the other parts of that guideline: that you should only propose new articles for review via AfC, and once the article is in mainspace you should not edit it directly. You note on the article talk page that
conflict of interest editing is discouraged but not forbidden
, which is true, but "not forbidden" does not mean optional here; it means that you should follow the guideline in most circumstances, even though there are sometimes exceptions. Those exceptions are when it's in Wikipedia's interest to ignore the rule, and that doesn't appear to be the case here. I have nominated the article for deletion and suggest you don't engage with it further. You are welcome to edit other topics. – Joe (talk) 11:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC)- Thank you for the useful information @Joe Roe: While you are right that the path to creation for this article was inappropriate due to mistakes on my part, I have nonetheless argued for why I believe deletion is not the right response over at the article deletion page. I agree that the article creation process is unfortunate but I still believe the decision of whether the article is deleted should be based on the article itself and associated guidelines, not the process through which it was created. In any case I will make sure to be more careful with COI editing in the future and I apologize for this inconvenience caused by me not having proposed the article via WP:AfC. --Maximilian Janisch (talk) 11:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Grüezi Maximilian. I don't know how it is on dewiki, but enwiki policy strongly discourages autobiographies like this one. It's good that you disclosed your COI, but you seem to have overlooked the other parts of that guideline: that you should only propose new articles for review via AfC, and once the article is in mainspace you should not edit it directly. You note on the article talk page that
Debra Fischer
- Debra Fischer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Debrafischer (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Continued editing of an article that shares their username after being warned about a potential COI violation yesterday. Jdcomix (talk) 22:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
University of Rhode Island College of Pharmacy
- University of Rhode Island College of Pharmacy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- URI student worker (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Username walks the line of WP:UAA. Editor appears to be slowly turning the article into an advert for the college. Warned about COI, continued editing with no communication. 2A00:23C5:50E8:EE01:7DCA:43EC:BDAF:A739 (talk) 16:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've soft blocked the username - it's not specific to an individual, student worker is a role. Secretlondon (talk) 12:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
User:Dssep
- Kabhi Main Kabhi Tum (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Dssep (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Could someone please look into the activities of this newbie Dssep? They're bypassing the formal AFC review process by moving drafts into the main NS. Specifically, they have moved drafts such as Draft:Umro Ayyar - A New Beginning (Diff ~1231533766) and Draft:Jaan Say Pyara Juni (Diff ~1231434817). Additionally, they seem to be associated with another new account Hypothetically007 with fewer than 1000 edits, likely acting as a meat puppet to assist in these moves such as Kabhi Main Kabhi Tum (Diff ~1231301770). This page was created by @Dssep. Furthermore, they are removing WP:UPE tags from these pages, which is concerning. I've advised them against this behavior, but they continue to do so. Some of these drafts were created or heavily edited by WP:UPE sock farms, suggesting a strong possibility that @Dssep, may be a paid editor, too. If moving drafts to the main NS without proper review becomes commonplace, it undermines the purpose of WP:AFC. This is not the first instance of such behavior from new accounts, but I felt it is now necessary to report it here. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:44, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- As I Remove the Multiple issues template in Kabhi Main Kabhi Tum because the The Express Tribune, Dawn (newspaper), ARY News, Dunya News, Aaj News, The Indian Express and the many more references are Reliable as their articles are also on Wikipedia. None of these are not the Paid websites as they are internationally recognized News Websites. Another thing is that the article is not Paid with no promotional words or the article is written. The article is also notable as The Fahad Mustafa, Hania Aamir, Emmad Irfani, Javed Sheikh, Bushra Ansari are the leading actors on domestic and International level. The series is not yet released so it is a stub article also as i Add the stub template and the article is improving as the new News arrives. Also You mention me here, I'm not a Paid editor. The article is written in Neutral Point of View. Other Administrators can Check the article that it is a Piad Contributions ? If there are any issues discussed on the Article Talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dssep (talk • contribs) 07:51, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector: Despite this report, @Dssep, continues to move drafts to the main NS and engage in page move war. Allan Nonymous draftified the article but then reverted it back. Similarly, they redirecting declined drafts such as Draft:UmroAyyar A New Beginning (Diff 1231670989) and Draft:Umro Ayyar - A New Beginning (Diff 1231671391). This behavior resembles what Nauman335 sock farm typically does. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Dssep is Confirmed to Nauman335. Hypothetically007 is technically Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely) as they are using a proxy, but exhibits a technical signature matching data reported in this case in the past. Since they are very obviously working together, both are blocked indefinitely. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ivanvector, Thanks, but if they were not blocked for socking, would this editing behavior alone be enough to get them blocked? — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Saqib: well, they are blocked for socking, but if you're referring to the behaviour of persistently moving draftified articles back to mainspace, I've been told through a few different approaches that it isn't, for reasons essentially boiling down to encouraging bold editing and assuming good faith. Consensus seems to be that if you draftify an article and the author moves it back without making any improvements, send the article to AFD. And if it's a new editor with an article on one of these Hum TV or Geo TV or ARY Digital television shows, report them in the Nauman335 case, it's nearly 100% at this point. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ivanvector, Thanks, but if they were not blocked for socking, would this editing behavior alone be enough to get them blocked? — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Dssep is Confirmed to Nauman335. Hypothetically007 is technically Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely) as they are using a proxy, but exhibits a technical signature matching data reported in this case in the past. Since they are very obviously working together, both are blocked indefinitely. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector: Despite this report, @Dssep, continues to move drafts to the main NS and engage in page move war. Allan Nonymous draftified the article but then reverted it back. Similarly, they redirecting declined drafts such as Draft:UmroAyyar A New Beginning (Diff 1231670989) and Draft:Umro Ayyar - A New Beginning (Diff 1231671391). This behavior resembles what Nauman335 sock farm typically does. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
What You Wish For
- What You Wish For (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- BlairThimper73 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
User has continued disruptive editing on an article that they have a conflict of interest on, despite being warned multiple times. Jdcomix (talk) 16:19, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please read the talk page on the page, everything is laid out there. BlairThimper73 (talk) 16:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (AFC reviewer and involved editor) @BlairThimper73 despite being warned for your interest, you kept asking proof of COI, while I placed the COI tag with proof. All the time you never tried to understand what is Conflict of Interest. Editor Jdcomix brought the issue here after seeing the page history and the talk page. Twinkle1990 (talk) 14:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I don't see any COI. What is COI on the page as it stands currently? There is none. The page has almost zero contribution from me now, and what I did initially contribute was just inforamtion. But like I have said, the COI will stand because you want it to. This is not my problem, it is a public resource, not a private forum for your opinion. BlairThimper73 (talk) 00:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @BlairThimper73 this is Wikipedia, not your film. Your above statement is inability to understand what is being said and against good behaviour. You seem to be a single purpose account to create or edit your films only. Twinkle1990 (talk) 14:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I don't see any COI. What is COI on the page as it stands currently? There is none. The page has almost zero contribution from me now, and what I did initially contribute was just inforamtion. But like I have said, the COI will stand because you want it to. This is not my problem, it is a public resource, not a private forum for your opinion. BlairThimper73 (talk) 00:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (AFC reviewer and involved editor) @BlairThimper73 despite being warned for your interest, you kept asking proof of COI, while I placed the COI tag with proof. All the time you never tried to understand what is Conflict of Interest. Editor Jdcomix brought the issue here after seeing the page history and the talk page. Twinkle1990 (talk) 14:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Emmanuel Samba Zumakpeh
- Emmanuel Samba Zumakpeh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Josiah Nterful (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Editor adding unsourced material to this BLP. Editor commented on my Talk page ... I am currently in touch with him ... Editor has continued to edit the article despite CoI warning. Tacyarg (talk) 16:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Vitaliy Khomutynnik
- Vitaliy Khomutynnik (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- KaterynaS (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- TemPot Pee (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Dlimali (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Jenes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Vitaliy Khomutynnik's article has attracted COI/UPEs in the past to white wash his biography and they were blocked for violations. Now, a user with just 298 edits (User:Jenes) has whitewashed the article again from this to this. One of the sock even disclosed the payment status. Can we investigate/revert this obvious sock? More eyes the better. 86.97.145.183 (talk) 21:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Draft:Centre for Voters Initiative & Action (CVIA)
- Draft:Centre for Voters Initiative & Action (CVIA) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Samadquraishi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
This is a blatent COI article, and this user has already been banned from editing an article created on him. OnlyNanotalk 21:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
One of the creators of this new BLP (which I tagged while patrolling) has helpfully declared that they are a paid editor. Am I right in assuming that such an article should be moved to WP:AFC? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 08:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
"This is where Maximatic Media's expertise comes into play, crafting pages that not only go live but remain intact against the scrutiny of Wikipedia's dedicated community of editors and administrators."
For the interested. Sadly, the writer never asked about if they follow WP:PAID. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'd go even further and say it's downright malpractice to write a whole article about undisclosed paid editing and not mention that it is banned. Maximatic Media doesn't disclose their username where they advertise their services and therefore are violating Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#Disclosures to clients. But WP:RSP#Entrepreneur tells me that this is a self-published content mill, so it's probably no use trying to get it corrected. – Joe (talk) 12:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well you know, there's that delicate balance between doing stuff they can get paid for and other stuff. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know if this outfit 'Maximatic Media' is already on our radar. It's not on WP:PAIDLIST and I couldn't find any previous discussion of it, but they might just have changed their name. A Newbie-Friendly Guide to Creating and Self-Publishing Your Own Wikipedia Page claims they are "a somewhat renown [sic] Wikipedia editor" and implies they have access to an account that's "been around for 7+ years and has made 3,000+ edits across various existing pages alongside the 300+ pages they've created and published themselves". Of course, they all say that, but the actually-quite-good knowledge of our policies and how to circumvent them on display in that article suggests it might not be total bullshit this time. – Joe (talk) 13:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well you know, there's that delicate balance between doing stuff they can get paid for and other stuff. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
See this super-gross Rolling Stone UK piece with a tiny disclaimer at the bottom "Stream Publishing not involved in this content" i.e. it's churnalism under their name. Of course, reputation management is Maximatic's business; their Wikipedia page creation service is listed under the wonderful sub-heading "Mastering Online Reputation Management". ☆ Bri (talk) 17:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- So band spam? Secretlondon (talk) 17:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Yousuf Bhailok
- Yousuf Bhailok (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Salman00faris (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
To quote edit summaries I am his assistant. I have updated more about him
and This is the real version for yousuf Bhailok. I am his election campaign manager
, both left while turning the article into a hagiography. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 18:06, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- The slur by association in that article is terrible and certainly was correctly removed. Secretlondon (talk) 18:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- IE the controversy section which is all about someone else. Secretlondon (talk) 18:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. I hesitated to remove it entirely due to it being sourced (people get weird when an IP removes sourced information, even when it's as terrible as that para was) and am happy that it now has been. The hagiography that replaced the entire article a few edits earlier is now something to watch for in case it returns, in my opinion. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. Secretlondon (talk) 18:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. I hesitated to remove it entirely due to it being sourced (people get weird when an IP removes sourced information, even when it's as terrible as that para was) and am happy that it now has been. The hagiography that replaced the entire article a few edits earlier is now something to watch for in case it returns, in my opinion. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- IE the controversy section which is all about someone else. Secretlondon (talk) 18:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Marathon Asset Management
- Marathon Asset Management (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- DetroitFinanceAnalyst (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
This user has been adding advertising (or at least very spammy Title Case Industry Jargon) to this article. No communication; reversal is met with instant reversion. Coming here to avoid 3RR issues. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 20:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)