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File:Bamboozled OST.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already one piece of non-free media on this article. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Elton John - Elderberry Wine.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 15:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This image came from a booklet page of the album Don't Shoot Me I'm Only the Piano Player: discogs, 45worlds, ebay. None of single releases use the image that also contains lyrics, which are hard to see in very small size. George Ho (talk) 09:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Basic-math-screenshot.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ✗plicit 03:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File should be under the threshold of originality. It is solely composed of simple text. (Oinkers42) (talk) 17:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per a discussion at a previously deleted screen shot, here, I would be hesitant to include this on commons per the discussion of simple graphics and a court case Atari won through Breakout. This can be read here. Not sure if this applies, but something to consider before uploading screenshots, even of simple graphics. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The court case seems to be about calling the video game as a whole copyrightable, not just a screenshot. The DR seems to be about it not being used on-wiki (obviously not a problem here) and the screenshot being not from the actual game (which I am presuming this one is). (Oinkers42) (talk) 17:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but it seems to apply similar logic as we have for it not being within copyright. This is a weird grey area as I've said so I'm not saying its not the case here, Its just sort of a muddy area to be able to upload it here with confidence. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remain as non-free – If a similar screenshot was deleted on Commons, then ineligibility for Commons transfer is assumed. Furthermore, the brown background has shades all over the edges and/or corners, making it original enough for copyright. --George Ho (talk) 18:13, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as is per the uncertainty above. Neocorelight (Talk) 04:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relicense as {{PD-simple}} + {{Esoteric file}}: This screenshot is below c:COM:TOO US, which AFAICT is the country of origin. It is very simple, the shading too. The deletion request on Commons didn't have to do with copyright questions, rather if it was within Common's scope or not, so the fact that it was deleted om Commons shouldn't affect this file's license on Wikipedia at all. Even if it isn't suitable for Commons, its license on Wikipedia should still be correct, that's why we have the {{Esoteric file}} template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonteemil (talk • contribs) 14:40, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+The result of the discussion was: '''Delete'''; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#880">⚡</span>]] 05:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)<!--Template:Ffd top-->
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+Already one piece of non-free media on this article. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''<span style="color:black">v</span>f</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
+:''The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b>  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]).  No further edits should be made to this section.''<!--Template:Ffd bottom--></div>
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+The result of the discussion was: '''Delete'''; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#880">⚡</span>]] 15:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)<!--Template:Ffd top-->
+:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Elton John - Elderberry Wine.jpg">[[:File:Elton John - Elderberry Wine.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Elton John - Elderberry Wine.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2024+June+21%23File%3AElton+John+-+Elderberry+Wine.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} [[File talk:Elton John - Elderberry Wine.jpg|talk]] {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:Elton John - Elderberry Wine.jpg|action=history}} history] {{!}} [[Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Elton John - Elderberry Wine.jpg|links]] {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AElton+John+-+Elderberry+Wine.jpg}} logs])</span>&#x20;– uploaded by [[User talk:Vsco mike#File:Elton John - Elderberry Wine.jpg listed for discussion|Vsco mike]] (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:User talk:Vsco mike|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3AElton+John+-+Elderberry+Wine.jpg&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro&section=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify]</span> {{!}} [[Special:Contributions/Vsco mike|contribs]] {{!}} [[Special:ListFiles/Vsco mike|uploads]] {{!}} [[Special:Log/upload/Vsco mike|upload log]]).&nbsp;
+This image came from a booklet page of the album ''[[Don't Shoot Me I'm Only the Piano Player]]'': [https://www.discogs.com/master/30583-Elton-John-Dont-Shoot-Me-Im-Only-The-Piano-Player discogs], [https://www.45worlds.com/vinyl/album/djlph427 45worlds], [https://www.ebay.com/itm/176434405967 ebay]. None of single releases use the image that also contains lyrics, which are hard to see in very small size. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 09:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
+:''The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b>  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]).  No further edits should be made to this section.''<!--Template:Ffd bottom--></div>
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+The result of the discussion was: '''no consensus'''<!--Template:Ffd top-->. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 03:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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+File should be under [[c:COM:TOO|the threshold of originality]]. It is solely composed of simple text. [[User:(Oinkers42)|(Oinkers42)]] ([[User talk:(Oinkers42)|talk]]) 17:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
+:Per a discussion at a previously deleted screen shot,  [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Basic_Math_Atari_2600_screenshot1a.png here], I would be hesitant to include this on commons per the discussion of simple graphics and a court case Atari won through ''Breakout''. This can be read [https://blogs.loc.gov/copyright/2022/09/find-video-games-in-copyright/#:~:text=As%20copyright%20protection%20for%20video,1987%20to%20protect%20their%20work. here]. Not sure if this applies, but something to consider before uploading screenshots, even of simple graphics. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 17:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
+::The court case seems to be about calling the video game as a whole copyrightable, not just a screenshot. The DR seems to be about it not being used on-wiki (obviously not a problem here) and the screenshot being not from the actual game (which I am presuming this one is). [[User:(Oinkers42)|(Oinkers42)]] ([[User talk:(Oinkers42)|talk]]) 17:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
+:::Sure, but it seems to apply similar logic as we have for it not being within copyright. This is a weird grey area as I've said so I'm not saying its not the case here, Its just sort of a muddy area to be able to upload it here with confidence. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 17:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
+* <b>Remain as non-free</b> – If a similar screenshot was deleted on Commons, then ineligibility for Commons transfer is assumed. Furthermore, the brown background has shades all over the edges and/or corners, making it original enough for copyright. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 18:13, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Keep as is''' per the uncertainty above. [[User:Neocorelight|Neocorelight]] ([[User talk:Neocorelight|Talk]]) 04:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Relicense as {{t|PD-simple}} + {{t|Esoteric file}}''': This screenshot is below [[c:COM:TOO US]], which AFAICT is the country of origin. It is very simple, the shading too. The deletion request on Commons didn't have to do with copyright questions, rather if it was within Common's scope or not, so the fact that it was deleted om Commons shouldn't affect this file's license on Wikipedia at all. Even if it isn't suitable for Commons, its license on Wikipedia should still be correct, that's why we have the {{t|Esoteric file}} template. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jonteemil |Jonteemil ]] ([[User talk:Jonteemil #top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jonteemil |contribs]]) 14:40, 23 June 2024 (UTC)</small>
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