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    September 9

    Death at the Condor Club -

    CONDOR CLUB - My understanding is that James and Theresa were raised to the ceiling where James Ferrozzo died. Not that the piano fell on them. 2001:5B0:47C1:6C28:4DE4:9D9:47D8:9976 (talk) 00:14, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    According to the article Condor Club, you are correct. RudolfRed (talk) 00:40, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    COI specifics

    I have someone in mind who I'd like to write an article about, and I believe I have enough sources to start - however, before I put a bunch of work into research & figuring out if they're actually notable, I need some guidance. The person in question works at the same small organization I do. I'm not their boss or employee, our departments have a completely different hierarchy. We sometimes interact but only for administrative/logistical reasons. Do I need to declare a COI for the organization, or just the person? Should I really just not bother? If someone is able to chat with me privately (email?) about this, I'd be OK with giving more detail. I just want to know beforehand how much anonymity I need to be willing to give up if I want this to be my first article. Thanks! Wineguard (talk) 01:09, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Wineguard, I'm not sure if a COI declaration is necessary, but I do believe that at this point writing about the subject would be giving up a decent bit of anonymity regardless due to your message here. If you are really concerned about it I would recommend choosing another topic :/
    You've done some nice work on the project in the past, keep it up and happy editing! Justiyaya 08:14, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Justiyaya, thanks for looking out! That did occur to me (shortly after making the post). I don't mind this being in my edit history - I was/am more concerned about the disclosure front and center on my userpage. :~) Wineguard (talk) 13:31, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Wineguard Full guidance at WP:COI. Having a COI is not a mark of shame, it is usually a simple statement of fact. Editors can add citations to their own published work and even paid editors (the most serious form of COI) may create draft articles using the WP:AfC process. You are relatively inexperienced, so I suggest you use that process irrespective your precise situation. Incidentally, I'd expect the organisation would be more likely to be notable than individuals who work for it but that of course depends on what sources like these have said about either of them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:53, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, there’s probably something really obvious happening here but if there is then I’m clueless to whatever it is!

    Earlier on, I moved To Be Human to To Be Human (Sia song), due to the Sia song not appearing to me to be the primary topic. Soon after moving, I checked the ‘What Links Here’ page for the (now-redirect) To Be Human, and saw around 200 listed wikilinks. Checking again, the majority of these seem to now be listed under the What Links Here page for To Be Human (Sia song)see here. What’s curious is that some spot-checks reveal that no edits have been made to them since the page move. What’s even more curious is that, when I was spot checking, I couldn’t even find the wikilinks that apparently existed on the pages they apparently existed on.

    Does anyone smarter than me have an idea of what might be going on here? Let me know if you need any more information.

    Best, user:A smart kittenmeow 04:29, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi A smart kitten, The To Be Human was linked from three templates (see [1] for a way to find templates that link to a particular page) that are link to the song and one or more of them are WP:TRANSCLUDE-ed on probably about 200 pages (and links in transcluded templates are included in incoming link counts): Template:Sia singles, Template:DC Extended Universe, and Template:Labrinth and an editor (Another Believer) updated the links. Navigation templates are useful to update quickly after page moves so the automatic non-linking inside those templates if you're on the page in question works. Skynxnex (talk) 04:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Skynxnex Ah, thank you so much! I’ll remember to check templates in future. As I expected, it was something obvious that I hadn’t thought about
    Thanks again, user:A smart kittenmeow 05:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Age being calculated wrongly

    I spotted an inconsistency on the page Dave Ramsey. The infobox contains {{Birth date and age|1960|9|3}}, and this renders as "Born September 3, 1960 (age 62)". It is now 9 September 2023, and when I went to school that would give his age as 63, not 62. Am I missing something? Gronk Oz (talk) 07:05, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Gronk Oz, I believe that the calculation had not updated itself for the last few days. I did a null edit and the age now shows as 63. TSventon (talk) 07:58, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
     Fixed @TSventon: Thanks for that! Do you know if this is a common bug?--Gronk Oz (talk) 10:16, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gronk Oz:, I don't think it is really a bug, wikipedia stores cached copies of articles on its servers, so what you see will sometimes be out of date. I don't know how often cached copies are updated. TSventon (talk) 11:17, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @TSventon: Thanks again.--Gronk Oz (talk) 13:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Table formatting issue

    I added a new column in the table list of coagulation factors, then a small empty column appeared at the right end of the table. How do I get rid of this empty column?

    Table
    Coagulation factors and related substances
    Number Name(s) Function Associated genetic disorders Type of molecule Source Pathway(s)
    Factor I Fibrinogen Forms fibrin threads in blood clots Congenital afibrinogenemia, Familial renal amyloidosis Plasma protein Liver Common pathway; converted into fibrin
    Factor II Prothrombin Its active form (IIa) activates platelets, factors I, V, VII, VIII, XI, XIII, protein C Prothrombin G20210A, Thrombophilia Plasma protein Liver* Common pathway; converted into thrombin
    Factor III
    • Tissue factor
    • tissue thromboplastin
    Co-factor of factor VIIa, which was formerly known as factor III Lipoprotein mixture Damaged cells and platelets Extrinsic
    Factor IV
    • Calcium
    • Calcium ions
    • Ca2+ ions
    Required for coagulation factors to bind to phospholipids, which were formerly known as factor IV Inorganic ions in plasma Diet, platelets, bone matrix Entire process of coagulation
    Factor V
    • Proaccelerin
    • labile factor
    • Ac-globulin
    Co-factor of factor X with which it forms the prothrombinase complex Activated protein C resistance Plasma protein Liver, platelets Extrinsic and intrinsic
    Factor VI Unassigned – old name of factor Va Not used Not used Not used
    Factor VII
    • Proconvertin
    • Serum prothrombin conversion accelerator (SPCA)
    • stable factor
    Activates factors IX, X; increases rate of catalytic conversion of prothrombin into thrombin Congenital factor VII deficiency Plasma protein Liver * Extrinsic
    Factor VIII
    • Antihemophilic factor A
    • Antihemophilic factor (AHF)
    • Antihemophilic globulin (AHG)
    Co-factor of factor IX with which it forms the tenase complex Hemophilia A Plasma protein factor Platelets and endothelial cells Intrinsic
    Factor IX
    • Antihemophilic factor B
    • Christmas factor
    • plasma thromboplastin component (PTC)
    Activates factor X, forms tenase complex with factor VIII Hemophilia B Plasma protein Liver* Intrinsic
    Factor X
    • Stuart-Prower factor
    • Stuart factor
    Activates factor II, forms prothrombinase complex with factor V Congenital Factor X deficiency Protein Liver* Extrinsic and intrinsic
    Factor XI
    • Plasma thromboplastin antecedent (PTA)
    • Antihemophilic factor C
    Activates factor IX Hemophilia C Plasma protein Liver Intrinsic
    Factor XII Hageman factor Activates XI, VII, prekallikrein and plasminogen Hereditary angioedema type III Plasma protein Liver Intrinsic; initiates clotting in vitro; also activates plasmin
    Factor XIII Fibrin-stabilizing factor Crosslinks fibrin threads Congenital factor XIIIa/b deficiency Plasma protein Liver, platelets Common pathway; stabilizes fibrin; slows down fibrinolysis
    Vitamin K Essential factor to the hepatic gamma-glutamyl carboxylase that adds a carboxyl group to glutamic acid residues on factors II, VII, IX and X, as well as Protein S, Protein C and Protein Z Vitamin K deficiency Phytyl-substituted naphthoquinone derivative Gut microbiota
    (e.g. E. coli),
    dietary sources
    Extrinsic
    von Willebrand factor Binds to VIII, mediates platelet adhesion von Willebrand disease Blood vessels' endothelia,
    bone marrow
    Prekallikrein Fletcher factor Activates XII and prekallikrein; cleaves HMWK Prekallikrein/Fletcher factor deficiency
    Kallikrein Activates plasminogen
    High-molecular-weight kininogen
    • Fitzgerald factor
    • HMWK
    Supports reciprocal activation of factors XII, XI, and prekallikrein Kininogen deficiency
    Fibronectin Mediates cell adhesion Glomerulopathy with fibronectin deposits
    Antithrombin III Inhibits factors IIa, Xa, IXa, XIa, and XIIa Antithrombin III deficiency
    Heparin cofactor II Inhibits factor IIa, cofactor for heparin and dermatan sulfate ("minor antithrombin") Heparin cofactor II deficiency
    Protein C Inactivates factors Va and VIIIa Protein C deficiency
    Protein S Cofactor for activated protein C (APC, inactive when bound to C4b-binding protein Protein S deficiency
    Protein Z Mediates thrombin adhesion to phospholipids and stimulates degradation of factor X by ZPI Protein Z deficiency
    Protein Z-related protease inhibitor ZPI Degrades factors X (in presence of protein Z) and XI (independently
    Plasminogen Converts to plasmin, lyses fibrin and other proteins Plasminogen deficiency type I (ligneous conjunctivitis)
    α2-Antiplasmin Inhibits plasmin Antiplasmin deficiency
    α2-Macroglobulin Inhibits plasmin, kallikrein, and thrombin
    Tissue plasminogen activator tPA or TPA Activates plasminogen Familial hyperfibrinolysis and thrombophilia
    Urokinase Activates plasminogen Quebec platelet disorder
    Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 PAI-1 Inactivates tPA and urokinase (endothelial PAI Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 deficiency
    Plasminogen activator inhibitor-2 PAI-2 Inactivates tPA and urokinase Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 deficiency
    Cancer procoagulant Pathological activator of factor X; linked to thrombosis in cancer
    * Vitamin K is required

    CrafterNova [ TALK ] [ CONT ] 11:44, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    @CrafterNova: Extra columns are caused by too many cells in one or more rows. Some browsers will reveal the extra cells by only having horizontal lines there in the extra column. In Firefox I saw it in the article for Factor VI and von Willebrand factor. I have removed those cells.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! Really appreciated — CrafterNova [ TALK ] [ CONT ] 11:58, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    You edited the above table after my fix of the article. The wrong table I mentioned can be seen at [3] In long tables with such extra columns I sometimes widen the extra column in a preview by adding a cell with content in order to make it easier to spot the horizontal lines. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:08, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Edits

    what happens when the edit is opinion and not fact ? Curiousalways1 (talk) 15:43, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    That depends. Unsourced opinions will be removed. But an overview of opinions about a specific subject is - when reliably, independently sourced and relevant to the subject - is usually acceptable. Exception are opinions without serious backing (fringe opinions). The Banner talk 15:50, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Inspector General

     – Added section header. GoingBatty (talk) 18:33, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    What was the position or title of the Inspector General prior to 1976? Muffin4Purr (talk) 18:08, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    @Muffin4Purr: That depends on which country's inspector general you're referring to. See the article Inspector general for more information. GoingBatty (talk) 18:32, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing on the old theme

    I have a browser extension that redirects all Wikipedia links to the old theme, but I have to turn it off if I want to edit a page. If I edit with the redirector on, everything I have edited is lost when I click Submit. It would be nice if I could edit a page without turning off the redirector. 93.139.206.146 (talk) 18:45, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    You can create an account, go into Special:Preferences, and switch back to the old theme.
    If you do not want to, we don't know what extension you are using and have no way to control it. You may want to contact the developers. Sungodtemple (talkcontribs) 19:18, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia may want to let users choose the old theme like Yahoo Mail, Reddit and other well-designed sites do. 93.139.206.146 (talk) 19:44, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    You can- with an account. 331dot (talk) 19:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Registered users have around 100 settings at Special:Preferences, including three other skins than the new and the old. They can also install around 700 scripts at Wikipedia:User scripts/List and many which aren't listed there. They can make or copy their own scripts to run in their account and make their own CSS to style numerous things. Without an account, choices must be stored in a specific browser on a specific device. Wikipedia allows that for a few things but nearly everything is stored in accounts so they are remembered wherever you are logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:35, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Access list of images I've opened at Commons during the last few hours

    I've spent the entire night browsing Commons for photos of specific lamp post shapes and designs, and by the end, I may have had close to a three-digit amount of tabs open, and just when I wanted to save the photos to my HDD in order to sift and sort through them, Firefox crashed. Of course, I'd been lucky enough that I'd done all of this in a private window, so I can't recover it from my Firefox history and not even from my cached DNS.

    So, I'm asking, is there a way for some mod, admin, or other tech person at Wikipedia to give me the list of URL requests by my IP (found in my signature below) at Commons within c. the last 6 hours? They should all point to this level, not the actual JPGs. 2003:DA:CF39:B803:8420:2CCC:8EC6:5B2 (talk) 23:55, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Pending an answer by someone technically qualified, I have read several previous answers to similar requests, which stated that Wikipedia does not keep any records of who (either IP users or users with accounts) looks at what in it, only of what edits they make, so on Wikipedia this is not technically possible.
    Moreover, Wikimedia Commons is a separate (though allied) entity to Wikipedia, so you would have to ask there, but I'm confident that the same would be true of that site.
    This is broadly in accordance with widely recognised ethical principles of Librarianship, which prohibit librarians from revealing details of a client's reading and borrowing to third parties. Short version: you might not want an overbearing government to be able to find out what you're reading. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.194.81.165 (talk) 08:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    September 10

    ABBA

    ABBA 2603:6011:4C03:A04F:BD57:29BD:4255:C233 (talk) 03:46, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi there! Do you have a question about the ABBA article or anything about Wikipedia? GoingBatty (talk) 03:55, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    My Wikipedia page disappeared

    I had a Wikipedia page for a long time when suddenly my page was taken by a drag queen using my name. Since changed the spelling to a different version but if I search Venus De Light it still takes me to the drag queens page. I've been Venus De Light since 1979 and it is Federally Trademarked. I have starred in Shows around the world including the Las Vegas strip. HBOS's Real Sex 5, Playboys Girls of Rock Rock, former publisher of Cheri magazine and I don't want to put my entire CV here but you get the point. What happened to my page? 71.38.119.28 (talk) 07:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    are you sure this is wikipedia? there are no logs of any page named venus de light. ltbdl (talk) 07:21, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    When I search for that page I don't get redirected anywhere. That being said, looking at the deletion log, I don't see any entries for an article with that name. Broadening the search to all public logs, there are still no results so I don't see any evidence that an article with that name ever existed. (bojo)(they/them)(talk) 07:21, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    See Venus D-Lite. An IP editor, presumably the same person who started this topic, tried to change it to be about Venus De Light back in 2019. Squeakachu (talk) 07:59, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The versions mentioning Venus De Light instead of Venus D-Lite were all by 71.38.79.228 and lasted for a total of 42 minutes before the page was protected due to persistent disruptive editing by the IP on 12 June 2019.[4] An article called Venus D-Lite should be about Venus D-Lite and not somebody called Venus De Light. New suggested articles can be submitted at Wikipedia:Articles for creation but it's hard to satisfy our criteria and it's strongly discouraged to write a Wikipedia:Autobiography. If an article about Venus De Light was accepted then the top of Venus D-Lite could add a link called a hatnote for readers who were looking for Venus De Light. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:02, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    This [5] is the best source I could find, not enough for WP:N. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:56, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    If a user is constantly targeting a topic and trying to remove and ask for money late by contacting seperatly, how should we report them in wiki.

    If a user is constantly targeting a topic and trying to remove and ask for money late by contacting seperatly, how should we report them in wiki.? Cheeku009 (talk) 08:08, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Cheeku009. This is a known scam. Please read Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Scam warning. What is the specific arricle or draft? What is the username? Cullen328 (talk) 08:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    dareshmohan is the user. 2406:B400:B4:3F7A:3DB4:CEE7:F9EE:EA09 (talk) 16:13, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Courtesy ping: DareshMohan Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:38, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cheeku009 Please see Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Scam warning 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:15, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Cheeku009, please be aware that User:DareshMohan has 45,000 edits over two years and has never been blocked. The most plausible explanation is that a scammer is impersonating that editor. Cullen328 (talk) 17:24, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Graphs

    I may be a bit lazy in asking instead of searching for it, but is the issue with the graphs closer to being sorted, or have they been abandoned indefinitely? ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 16:31, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 207#Are all the graphs still busted or what? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:59, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Contacting the police in Thailand

    I want to contact the Crime Suppression Division of The Royal Thai Police in Thailand Kagher (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    This isn't a general help desk, this is for asking Wikipedia questions. I suggest you use your preferred search engine to locate contact information for the Thai authorities. 331dot (talk) 19:19, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding Robert Eckels to South Texas College of Law Houston

    How do I add Robert Eckels as a Notable Alumni of South Texas College of Law Houston? He does not have a Wikipedia page, but he has a page on conservapedia, plus his career is noted in several mainstream publications. He is a former State Representative of the Texas House of Representatives, and is a former County Judge of Harris County, Texas. Lowerportcaddo2023 (talk) 19:42, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    There first needs to be a Wikipedia article(the preferred term, not the broader "page") about him before he can be added to any lists. If he was a state representative he would meet WP:NPOLITICIAN so as long as you have sources to summarize it shouldn't be too hard to create an article. 331dot (talk) 19:48, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Very helpful. Lowerportcaddo2023 (talk) 02:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Lowerportcaddo2023: While Wikipedia does have criteria for inclusion called "notability", having an article on Conservapedia (or any other wiki) does not matter here. For more information about creating an article here, see Help:Your first article. GoingBatty (talk) 02:14, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Very helpful. I’ll check out GoingBatty. Lowerportcaddo2023 (talk) 02:53, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I've started the barest of stubs on Eckels. Apparently Conservapedia doesn't allow access to the source code for their articles, so I wasn't able to mine the sources. That's okay, since a lot of those sources are not of a quality useful for a Wikipedia article. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    September 11

    About discussion in request article/s move

    Can the requester involve in the discussion he/she requested? ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 01:12, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    @98tigerius: if you're asking about whether the requester can respond to those in the discussion, then yes. ltbdl (talk) 03:14, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ltbdl then how about respond whether to support or to oppose or be nuetral or etc. in the discussion? ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 03:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @98tigerius: huh? ltbdl (talk) 04:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    It is assumed that the initiator of any request supports the request: if they change their mind, they will usually withdraw the request.
    Since most things on Wikipedia are not votes, it makes no difference whether the requester explicitly registers a "support" or not. What matters is the arguments from Wikipedia policy, and the requester is free to expound these just as much as anybody else. ColinFine (talk) 10:18, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Film still from 1914

    Hello. Is it possible to include a screenshot from a 1914 film in the body of an article? Thank you BJCHK (talk) 02:18, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    @BJCHK: Generally yes. If the film was shown in the US prior to 1927, its copyright has expired and it is in the public domain. Caveats: if the still includes elements taht were added later such as frames, etc. then it is theoretically possible that those elements are still protected by copyright, so you would need to crop them. I know of no actual example of this. -Arch dude (talk) 02:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That's great! Thank you @Arch dude
    BJCHK (talk) 02:36, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Refs 1 and 2 are not correctly done. Please fix if you have the time. I cannot. Thanks you115.70.23.77 (talk) 02:35, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi there! The issue is that |website= is not a valid parameter for {{cite book}}. If you want to reference the printed version of the Australian Dictionary of Biography, then use {{cite book}} without the |website=. If you want to reference the web site, then use {{cite web}} with |website=. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:39, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello again! An informative and helpful result is I think even simpler to obtain than what GoingBatty suggests. Simply change website= to via= (and preferably name the website that immediately follows this "="; don't just supply its domain name). -- Hoary (talk) 02:44, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That is not a good solution. |via= has a specific meaning (see the template documentation). Do not abuse cs1|2 parameters to merely make error messages go away. A better fix in this case is:
    {{Cite Australian Dictionary of Biography |author=Brian Buckley |title=Lynch, Sir Phillip Reginald (1933–1984) |url=https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/lynch-sir-phillip-reginald-14391}}
    Brian Buckley. "Lynch, Sir Phillip Reginald (1933–1984)". Australian Dictionary of Biography. Canberra: National Centre of Biography, Australian National University. ISBN 978-0-522-84459-7. ISSN 1833-7538. OCLC 70677943.
    Trappist the monk (talk) 03:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Ouch! I plead guilty to insufficient study of Template:Cite book. And insufficient sleep. After markup-stripping: Name of the content deliverer (if different from publisher). "Content deliverer" is a new term to me. (I was about to dismiss it as an obscure synonym for "website", but I suppose that material can still be available via ftp, DVD, etc.) But defined in any way that I can think of, here it's not different from the publisher. I did already know that it had to be different, but sleepily/hurriedly managed not to notice that here they're the same. Template:Cite Australian Dictionary of Biography is new to me. It got me looking for more. And more there is. -- Hoary (talk) 03:48, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Citing chapters

    I'm citing a rather large tome split between four volumes and was wondering if there were any good ways to cite individual chapters. I've tried Template:Harvc, which unfortunately requires each chapter to have its own author. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 07:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    You might do better to cite the book once, and then use short form referencing in the text. Use {{sfn|Krisgabwoosh|2023|loc=chapter 1}} as the format. For example, this sentence occurs in chapter 2.[1] Another thought taken from chapter 4.[2] But finishing with chapter 2 again.[1] If you want to see a fully worked example of SFN, see Frindsbury as an example.

    References

    1. ^ a b Krisgabwoosh 2023, chapter 2.
    2. ^ Krisgabwoosh 2023, chapter 4.
    Citations


    @Krisgabwoosh: If you are adding these citations to an article that is not already using {{sfn}}, it might be better to use {{rp}}. Others may differ, but I feel that {{rp}} is more consistent with the simple referencing style used in most articles, and we are not in general supposed to do a mass change of the existing referencing style in an article. -Arch dude (talk) 18:17, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Please I want to update my information

    Name job age Uduak Meriweather (talk) 08:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Uduak Meriweather Wikipedia isn't a place to post your resume or personal information. That's what social media is for. There doesn't seem to be an article about you here to update, unless it is under a different title. 331dot (talk) 08:57, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Forgot user name

    how to find out my user name and register email id ? 103.146.229.51 (talk) 09:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    I would suggest that you examine the edit history of some article you may recall having edited to see if you recognize your username. However, if you forgot your username and password, you will need to just create a new account. You can then add your email address in your account preferences. 331dot (talk) 09:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Where have the recent archives gone?

    Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see any Help Desk archives for September 2023 where they're supposed to be. I wanted to remind myself of an old thread but now am having problems finding it. Is scsbot broken? Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Very strange - they exist (for instance Help desk/Archives/2023 September 6), but Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives doesn't show them all, and shows some as red links (but clicking the link still takes me to the archive). 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:00, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Michael D. Turnbull I've purged Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives and now everything that is meant to be there seems to be actually there. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:37, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I also purged, don't know who was first. I have added added {{Purge}}.[6] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, all. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Einstein and Eddington

    Some years ago I edited the entry for the film "Einstein and Eddington" as I was concerned that the film contained some serious scientific and historical errors. I inserted a section pointing out these errors and referenced each of my points. Recently I've discovered that this whole section has been deleted. Given the importance of the scientific discovery dramatised in this film I think readers should be aware of the egregious errors that are made. How do I reinstate the section I wrote and how can I be informed if such a thing happens again Reginaldgeorge (talk) 16:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Reginaldgeorge It looks like it was removed in 2020 with this edit. No reason was provided. I would suggest discussing this on Talk:Einstein and Eddington. As for notification, it is up to you to monitor any articles you are interested in. You can add it to your watchlist(click on the star tab at the top and when it turns dark, you succeeded). 331dot (talk) 16:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Bear in mind that Einstein and Eddington is a dramatization rather than a documentary. In any dramatization historical "errors" are perfectly normal and to be expected. The references you provided were very vague, which may be why your contribution was removed. Be sure to cite everything and include relevant page numbers so that your points can be verified. Shantavira|feed me 16:38, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Reginaldgeorge: Unless your references specifically mentioned the movie, your contribution was original research (WP:OR), and OR is not permitted in Wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 17:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Having looked at the diff that 331dot linked to, it seems to me that your edit was original research. You weren't summarizing what reliable sources had said about the film, but synthesizing from the various sources you mentioned and what was in the film. That is not how Wikipedia works. ColinFine (talk) 17:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]


    September 12

    Recent Changes Highlighting

    The highlighting that I use in the filter box of the recent changes page has recently just stopped working as of late and I can't get it to work at all. I have tried changing my prefs and everything. Any ideas? Seawolf35 (talk) 01:39, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    @seawolf35: which filters are you highlighting? ltbdl (talk) 11:07, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I am highlighting the edits that hit as bad faith or likely have problems. Seawolf35 (talk) 12:08, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I am experiencing the same issue. It started yesterday or the day before. The first set of changes are visible, but the list doesn't update when "Live Updates" are turned on. I have to "hand-refresh" the page to get a new set of changes. I use the filters
    • Likely Have Problems
    • Human (not bot)
    • Page edits
    • Page creations

    Joyous! Noise! 13:38, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    @Seawolf35 I suspect that this is something to do with a change mentioned in the current Tech News. I quote:
    • ORES, the revision evaluation service, is now using a new open-source infrastructure on all wikis except for English Wikipedia and Wikidata. These two will follow this week. If you notice any unusual results from the Recent Changes filters that are related to ORES (for example, "Contribution quality predictions" and "User intent predictions"), please report them. [7]
    Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:59, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    help

    i need help 2601:640:C900:42C0:1086:F6DB:88E7:D4A5 (talk) 06:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello IP address, can you describe what you need help with? 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 07:10, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't make edits

    Every time I make edits to the page, the changes get reverted to the older version. 114.143.207.2 (talk) 07:10, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Example:[8] Here you remove a bunch of references, and make the text into an advertisment. Don't do that on Wikipedia, if you want to write commercials, use social media. See also WP:COI. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:26, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Visual editor isn't working anywhere

    Last month, I scrambled my password due to extreme mental health/competence concerns. After my symptoms mostly went away, I created a new account using the same scripts. However, the script installer doesn't seem to show up anywhere, and I can't find the visual editor button where I usually found it. Any ideas why? I use Monobook btw. Scorpions1325 (talk) 10:49, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    @Scorpions1325: Welcome back! Wikipedia:Script Installer says it is no longer maintained, and recommends that you use User:Enterprisey/script-installer instead. If that's what you're having problems with, I suggest you contact User:Enterprisey. In your Preferences > Editing, have you confirmed that the "Enable the visual editor" box is checked? Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:31, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]