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= June 24 =


= August 21 =
== Icelandic cod per part of fish and chips, recipe is sold in Iceland. ==


==Anniversaries ==
Per the talk page, and my "unsuccessful" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fish_and_chips&oldid=1230026935 attempt] in adding Iceland under "Other countries", I decided to make a "valid point", and make a comment. In quote, "Last year, I took a trip to Iceland and only visited the Southern part of the country. Throughout my time there, I have noticed that restaurants and food trailers do in fact serve fish and chips, per part of the Icelandic cod. However, I highly recommend doing some deep searching for sources to prove this, unless you can spend some time yourself going to the country or do similar search results to find out this reliability. Also consider expanding into looking for more countries that house this recipe." So, I need some justification on this, and I'd like to know how hard it is to find a source for this matter. Mod creator [[User:Mod creator|🏡]] [[User talk:Mod creator|🗨]] [[Special:Contributions/Mod creator|📝]] 03:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)


V kategorii Úmrtí 2024 chybí Paul Spencer - Dario G. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:1028:8390:B1E2:C0C5:E044:7F06:3DE4|2A00:1028:8390:B1E2:C0C5:E044:7F06:3DE4]] ([[User talk:2A00:1028:8390:B1E2:C0C5:E044:7F06:3DE4|talk]]) 10:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
:{{small|I don't understand the use of the preposition ''[[wikt:per#Preposition|per]]'' in "<u>per</u> part" and "<u>per</u> their [[Haddock|Icelandic cod]]". &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 03:42, 24 June 2024 (UTC)}}
::Paul Spencer does not have his own article. He may not be considered individually notable. [[User:Xuxl|Xuxl]] ([[User talk:Xuxl|talk]]) 14:59, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
:I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Personal experience is '''never''' acceptable as a source for information in a Wikipedia article, but if you can find a reliable published source which verfifies your experience, you can of course add a summary of what that source says.
:::Jun 17, 2024 · The dance music producer Paul Spencer, a member of the dance music group [[Dario G]] known for the hits [[Sunchyme]] and [[Carnaval de Paris]], passed away at age 53 [https://www.nme.com/news/music/dario-g-star-paul-spencer-dies-aged-53-3766498] . [[User:Philvoids|Philvoids]] ([[User talk:Philvoids|talk]]) 10:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
:As for how hard it is to find a source: I guess that depends on whether the sources exist and how readily available. Most people start looking for sources by googling. Maybe somebody at [[WT:WikiProject Iceland]] can point you at a source. (The project is "not very active", but the talk page still gets some attention). [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
::::The OP's question is not whether he died (it's clearly the case) but why he doesn't appear under the category "2024 deaths". The reason is that the category is generated from individual articles, and Mr. Spencer does not have one, for whichever reason. [[User:Xuxl|Xuxl]] ([[User talk:Xuxl|talk]]) 15:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
::How about [https://www.funiceland.is/blog/posts/2017/october/fish-and-chips-in-iceland/ this blog] from an Icelandic travel agency or [https://grapevine.is/food-main/2019/05/09/the-only-cod-war-that-matters-reykjavik-fish-n-chips-joints-rated/ this] from Iceland's [self-proclaimed] "biggest, best and most widely read English-language publication"? [[User:AlmostReadytoFly|AlmostReadytoFly]] ([[User talk:AlmostReadytoFly|talk]]) 11:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
:::[[WP:Blogs|Blogs]] are almost never acceptable - only if the blogger is a recognised authority on the topic of the blog. But the Grapevine piece looks OK to me - it's got a byline, and the site has an editor-in-chief, and specifically says that it is not sponsored content. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 22:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC)


= June 25 =
= August 22 =


== "The City from Burma"? ==
== Tripping in my sleep ==


When I was about to fall asleep, I felt as thought I tripped on something despite laying down on my bed. I even felt a hard surface below my feet. What is that? [[User:TrademarkedTWOrantula|<span style="color: darkgreen"><span style="font-family: Georgia">TWOrantula</span></span>]]<sup><small>TM</small></sup> <small>([[User talk:TrademarkedTWOrantula|enter the web]])</small> 15:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
While improving an article about a Burmese restaurant, I came across a source that said this:


:I'm not sure, although it reminds me of [[Exploding head syndrome]].
{{xt|Sherry Dung, who has owned the restaurant with her husband, Kevin Chen, since the two immigrated to The City from Burma more than 20 years ago, said the two of them were “surprised” when they got the news.}}
:Probably a type of [[hypnic jerk]] <small>(but enough about me)</small>. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 15:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
::That's exactly what it is. Unlike other people, I often seek these out, because if I can facilitate a hypnic jerk, it somehow allows me to enter a deeper state of sleep. Obviously, this is not for everyone, as most people are fearful and anxious when it comes to the feeling and try to avoid it. But I think, in my case, it helps me enter into deeper, more restful sleep states. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 20:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
:See also [[Hypnagogia]]. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 15:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)


::And a subset of the above, the [[Night hag]] phenomenon, something I've experienced a few times, where it seems as if something is sitting on your chest and strangling you. Fortunately, I knew about it before experiencing it, so didn't think it was really supernatural once I'd woken, and recognised it immediately on further occurrances.
Is the phrase "The City from Burma" a real thing, or is it just another typo? [[User:TrademarkedTWOrantula|<span style="color: darkgreen"><span style="font-family: Georgia">TWOrantula</span></span>]]<sup><small>TM</small></sup> <small>([[User talk:TrademarkedTWOrantula|enter the web]])</small> 02:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
::I've also repeatly felt as if someone was sitting on the bed next to me, even bouncing up and down on one occasion, the feeling of my air mattress deflating (it hadn't), and cats jumping onto the bed and laying down against me – a regular actual experience in a previous house, but here occuring in a house with none. The mind and body can do funny things! I like to think of them as free entertainment. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.209.45|94.1.209.45]] ([[User talk:94.1.209.45|talk]]) 18:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)


== Electoral College faithless electors law ==
:Here's the direct link to the source if you need it: [https://www.sfexaminer.com/culture/food-and-wine/mandalay-san-francisco-wins-james-beard-americas-classic/article_6ce80d7c-d691-11ee-bd08-f7318214afba.html] [[User:TrademarkedTWOrantula|<span style="color: darkgreen"><span style="font-family: Georgia">TWOrantula</span></span>]]<sup><small>TM</small></sup> <small>([[User talk:TrademarkedTWOrantula|enter the web]])</small> 02:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
::I don't think you're parsing the statement correctly. The source you linked to is the [[San Francisco Examiner]] and so is written from the PoV of [[San Francisco]]. So "The City" is simply their way of referring to San Francisco e.g. [//www.sfexaminer.com/news/health/san-francisco-remains-committed-to-keeping-abortion-freedoms/article_8c105146-2f56-11ef-91c2-0b38b47d8b4d.html] [//www.sfexaminer.com/news/housing/full-house-home-is-on-the-market-again-in-san-francisco/article_3e9dee56-2523-11ef-aef9-0bcddcd8ca7a.html]. The sentence is simply saying that the two people immigrated to San Francisco from Burma more than 20 years ago. It's not referring to a city in Burma/Myanmar. Likewise if a New York or Paris source talks about something being in "The City" they would generally be referring to New York or Paris respectively. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 02:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)


Hello. If you go to the U.S. Electoral College faithless elector page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector), you can see that Texas is also colored light green. The light green stands, for if I am not mistaken, the invalidity of the vote without a possible fine. But it is my understanding that Texas does not (at least not yet) have a law on possible faithless electors, but I could be wrong. Who's right? Thank you very much. [[Special:Contributions/5.94.86.20|5.94.86.20]] ([[User talk:5.94.86.20|talk]]) 15:33, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
:: {{re|TrademarkedTWOrantula}} not a typo. The SF Examiner is using "The City" to mean "San Francisco". They immigrated to San Francisco from Burma. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 02:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
:[https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/analysis/html/HB00087H.htm This Texas state law] was passed on June 18 2023 and made effective immediately. [[Special:Contributions/75.136.148.8|75.136.148.8]] ([[User talk:75.136.148.8|talk]]) 14:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
:::For a good example of the ''SF Examiner''{{'}}s use of "The City", see [https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/the-city/2024-san-francisco-summer-guide-activities-for-families/article_3d8f797a-19f8-11ef-ae90-abe4d3b38c21.html "How families can spend the summer in The City"]. While Steinbeck referred to SF as "the City",<sup>[https://books.google.com/books?id=mqKGH9vGfx4C&pg=PT198&dq=%22the+City%22&hl=en]</sup> the capitalization of "The" is, AFAIK, peculiar to the ''Examiner''. The ''Chronicle'' usually just writes "the city" in lower case. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 08:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)


== Is there any (institutionalized) religion, teaching that a material statue is literally a god, and not only ''represents'' a (spiritual) god? ==
:[https://www.nytimes.com/1975/09/26/archives/i-lost-my-mind-in-san-francisco.html Herb Caen, 1975]: "'The city that was never a town,' said an admiring Will Rogers, to which Rudyard Kipling added, 'and inhabited by perfectly mad people.' [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 03:14, 25 June 2024 (UTC)


:::In Britain, "the City" always means the [[City of London]]. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 20:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
[[User:HOTmag|HOTmag]] ([[User talk:HOTmag|talk]]) 23:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)


:There are too many qualifiers there for this question to have any well-defined answer rather than just a conversation starter:
== [[d:Q115736064|Yann Zopf]], John Scott and Carolina Klint from the World Economic Forum ==
:* institutionalized
Anyone know what citizenship these people have? Google gives nothing--[[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|talk]]) 13:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
:* teaching
:* material
:* statue
:* literally (not representationally)
:* spiritual
:* god
:At its core, your question seems to be interested in the most direct ways that established religious systems have attempted to bridge the material–spiritual divide, right?<span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">[[User:Remsense|<span style="color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>[[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="color:#fff">'''论'''</span>]]</span> 01:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
::I think the [[Statue of Marduk]] would qualify, apart from being over 2000 years in the past. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 03:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
:::In Chinese ''folk'' religion, the [[City God (China)|City God]] is sometimes seen to be the actual statue enshrined in his ''[[yamen]]''. --[[Special:Contributions/49.255.185.235|49.255.185.235]] ([[User talk:49.255.185.235|talk]]) 04:31, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
::::Correct. This is limited to "folk" religion, which I doubt would be considered religion in other countries. It would be considered folklore. It is not limited to cities. In rural areas, it is common to have a statue on the corner of a lot that is considered a "god" that looks over the lot. I seriously doubt anyone truly believes that a little statue is casting magic over the land in exchange for gifts. But, it is common and if you don't do it, you are weird. [[Special:Contributions/75.136.148.8|75.136.148.8]] ([[User talk:75.136.148.8|talk]]) 14:27, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
:Arguable [[Shinto]] does with certain natural objects or phenomena being [[kami]] [[User:EvergreenFir|'''<span style="color:#8b00ff;">Eve</span><span style="color:#6528c2;">rgr</span><span style="color:#3f5184;">een</span><span style="color:#197947;">Fir</span>''']] [[User talk:EvergreenFir|(talk)]] 04:47, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
::[https://www.japan-experience.com/all-about-japan/tokyo/events-festivals/tokorozawa-doll-memorial-celebration Tokorozawa Doll Memorial Celebration]: It describes how a shinto temple offers the [[Ningyo Kuyosai]] ceremony to dispose of used dolls, traditional Japanese or Disney: {{tq|To the left is a makeshift counter and there you can any hand in any doll you want. The dolls will be noted and you will receive a paper slip containing the name of your doll. The soul of the doll thus is transferred to the paper slip which you can place into a wooden box at the pyre. Burning the slip with your doll's name on it will do the same service as ceremonially burning the doll itself.[...] while all the Hello Kitty, Teddy Bear, Snoopy and so on will get unceremoniously dumped into a Tokorozawa city garbage container out of sight. It doesn't matter. By now, the paper slip has taken over the soul of the doll. It will go into the fire and the soul of the doll will thus go to heaven no matter its origin.}}
:: --[[User:Error|Error]] ([[User talk:Error|talk]]) 00:22, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
:::May I ask what doll heaven is like? [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 00:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
::::100% [[Chucky (Child's Play)|Chucky]]-free. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 01:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, likely quite a few. See [[animism]]. For example, the extant Jewish, Christian, and Islamic proscriptions against idols are popularly believed to be based on their reactionary attitudes to pluralistic religious beliefs, in particular, to animist, pagan belief systems, where the idols, symbols, and in many cases plants and even animals take on literal god-like manifestations. You could start by looking at [[Hawaiian religion]] as one of many examples. See [[aumakua]]. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 00:20, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
::Not objecting, but I notice terms like "'''takes on''' physical forms", "spirit '''vehicles'''", and "'''manifest'''". What I mean is, unsurprisingly, no religion seems to have gods that can be destroyed by destroying the god-object. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 03:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
:::"Destroyed for who?", I suppose would be an operative question. In a sense, the "institutionalized" and "materially-contingent" criteria are at odds with one another—the point of corporations (in the broadest sense) is that they're immortal—it doesn't make organizational sense to treat your god–statue the same way once you've got a church to run and a career to build, so to speak. Dunno if that makes sense. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">[[User:Remsense|<span style="color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>[[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="color:#fff">'''论'''</span>]]</span> 04:16, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
The film [[Land of the Pharaohs]] (1955) imagines ancient Egyptian religion where "There's a marvelous moment when the dead are being taken away from battle in their coffins, and someone says, "Let us hear the gods of Egypt speak." The camera pans over to one of the statues of the gods, and it talks. That's it-the statue talks!" - [[Martin Scorsese]] [[User:Philvoids|Philvoids]] ([[User talk:Philvoids|talk]]) 12:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)


:You neglected to mention the film was made by [[Howard Hawks]], one of the greatest film directors of all time, and whose style was light years ahead of its time and is still relevant today. Whenever I see the name Howard Hawks, I imagine myself doing a deep Japanese bow. It's been 47 years since Hawks died and people like myself still revere him, that's how influential he was. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 20:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
:Zopf got his Bachelor's degree from University Lumière Lyon 2 and his Master's from University Jean Moulin Lyon 3,<sup>[https://www.weforum.org/people/yann-zopf/]</sup> so it is quite plausible he is French. [[wikt:Yann|Yann]] is a Breton–French given name, which lends further support to this guess. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 15:24, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
::::<small>The first sentence of the first reference I gave says who directed [[Land of the Pharoahs]]. [[User:Philvoids|Philvoids]] ([[User talk:Philvoids|talk]]) 13:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</small>
:According to his LinkedIn profile, Scott got his Bachelor's degree from the University of Oxford and his Master's from [[Cranfield School of Management]]; he lives in the [[Borough of Guildford|Greater Guildford Area]]. It is a reasonable assumption that he is British. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 15:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{small|Not sure if serious, my dude. I was only joking.}} [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 00:21, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
:The earliest education on Klint's LinkedIn profile is from [[Uppsala University]], and she lives in [[Stockholm County]]. Both the given name and the surname are common in Sweden, so everything points to her being Swedish. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 15:55, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


:This might become an issue if the statue was constructed out of [[sacramental bread]]. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 12:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
::In fact I'm not sure why sacramental bread is not Jesus-shaped, since it is supposed to be literally his body. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 09:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:::I know you're joking of course—I think the different ways denominations understand what transpires in the Eucharist to be a great microcosm of the whole history: maybe I'm too undiscerning, but I feel equally receptive to the Catholic "well-defined Aristotelian mystery", the Lutheran "don't ask us how but we believe him when he says it", to the Orthodox "something definite happens but we're not sure what Greek word to use for it" to the Calvinist "definitely just a metaphor" <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">[[User:Remsense|<span style="color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>[[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="color:#fff">'''论'''</span>]]</span> 09:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:::There's an extended discussion over at [[origin of the Eucharist]], which I find to be well written and informative. But to save you some trouble: nobody anywhere can make sense of the how and why of sacramental bread as it's deemed a mystery. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)


= June 27 =
= August 29 =


== Fresh scents ==
== question about the new anime [[Suicide_Squad_Isekai]] ==


In my part of the world (for the purposes here, that might mean "Ontario", or "Western World", I dunno) there are a limited number of smells/tastes that are considered "fresh" and they have fairly well circumscribed areas where they're employed: [[Mentha|mint]], which is used to freshen breath (toothpaste/gum/candy); [[pine]] scent (we don't really have an appropriate article), which gets used for [[Little Trees|cars]] and [[Pine-Sol|furniture]]; and [[lemon]], which gets used for [[Pledge (brand)|furniture]] and room deodorization. There's a pretty limited number of others in the group: cinnamon sometimes gets used for breath freshening, some formulas use orange oil rather than lemon oil, that kind of thing. But we don't, broadly speaking, make use of pine toothpaste or mint room deodorizers, etc. </br>
I live in Canada and I don't have Hulu or Max. Is there a way I can watch [[Suicide_Squad_Isekai]] when it premieres? Will it be on Crunchyroll, Disneyplus, Crave or some other streaming service in Canada? Thank you! [[Special:Contributions/2001:569:7D9E:700:15F6:5ACD:1BC8:EB22|2001:569:7D9E:700:15F6:5ACD:1BC8:EB22]] ([[User talk:2001:569:7D9E:700:15F6:5ACD:1BC8:EB22|talk]]) 00:41, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Or am I wrong and that's just the way things are near me? Our article on mint says that it was previously used as a room deodorizer, back when dirt floors were more common. I've seen cinnamon toothpaste and breath fresheners, but they're clearly a tiny minority compared to mint - are there parts of the world where that's reversed? Are there places where my list above would be completely inaccurate? [[User:Matt Deres|Matt Deres]] ([[User talk:Matt Deres|talk]]) 14:35, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:Consumer products for [[Air freshener|air freshening]] began to emerge in the late 1800s which coincided with the arrival of the first synthetically produced fragrant [[Aroma compound]]s. Aroma compounds can naturally be found in various [[food]]s, such as fruits and their [[peel (fruit)|peels]], [[wine]], [[spices]], [[floral scent]], [[perfume]]s, [[fragrance oil]]s, and [[essential oil]]s. [[User:Philvoids|Philvoids]] ([[User talk:Philvoids|talk]]) 19:53, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
::"Smell is a social phenomenon, invested with particular meanings and values by different cultures." That's the opening line of [https://epdf.tips/aroma-the-cultural-history-of-smell.html Aroma: The Cultural History of Smell]. I have yet to find the part where it discusses which scents in which part of the world mean "toothpaste" as opposed to "detergent". [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 06:26, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
:::While I don't have a specific answer, one thing to bear in mind is that's it's likely in quite a few places, such products were either imported when they were first introduced, or at least produced by people or companies from what we'd now call the Western world. Some of the places would be colonies of such, and even when they weren't they were often heavily involved in earlier industrialisation. And even when this wasn't the case, it's quite likely they were at least heavily influenced by and relied on stuff from there, e.g. their synthetic aromas. For example, AFAIK, the infamous [[Darlie]] toothpaste generally has mint flavours which I suspect might hark from their early days. It was a bit difficult to find much about the founders in English (it's said to originate in Shanghai from the Niem family [//www.goldthread2.com/identity/origins-colgate-darlie-black-person-toothpaste-explained/article/3089860] but their details are a bit unclear) but from machine translations of the Chinese article [[:zh:DARLIE好來]] it seems the founders were 严柏林 and 严中立 with Niem being a perhaps slightly unusual transliteration of [[Yan (surname 严)]]. The controversial name and marketing itself is enough to show some influence from what's now the Western world, but it seems they and their employees came from [[:zh:中国化学工业社]] (Sinochem) who were possibly one of the early brands of local toothpaste in China (which our Darlie article suggests were mint flavoured). The machine translation of our article on Sinochem suggests they had problems in the early days due to a flood of foreign products. Of course I'm not totally sure whether there was a reason for mint to be associated with such things in what's now the Western world before it happened anyway. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 22:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
::::[[Menthol]] has local anesthetic and counterirritant qualities, that's what's up with that. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 23:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)


= August 31 =
== filming location in Baltimore ==
Here is a screenshot and I would like to know where this street and church can be found in Baltimore. https://s20.directupload.net/images/240623/y9e7ogpl.png Thank you! [[User:Chris06|Chris06]] ([[User talk:Chris06|talk]]) 16:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
:You could try sending it to the YouTuber, GeoWizard. He seems to be an expert at this kind of thing. [[User:Pablothepenguin|Pablothepenguin]] ([[User talk:Pablothepenguin|talk]]) 18:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
::He certainly is an expert, but he's not going to do it just for some random person on the internet. Your best bet is to join a Facebook group about Baltimore and post your query there. The unusual looking building on the right looks like a church tower. I tried reverse image searching for the tower but it didn't come up. A google image search for churches in Baltimore didn't bring anything up either. --[[User:Viennese Waltz|Viennese Waltz]] 09:17, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
:::The commons category [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Churches_in_Baltimore Churches in Baltimore] is vast. I haven't found anything, but I haven't explored every nook and cranny of the category either. --[[User:Wrongfilter|Wrongfilter]] ([[User talk:Wrongfilter|talk]]) 10:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you for your answers! I had already searched the category and found nothing. The picture is from the film Step Up 2 and in both films all the locations are in Baltimore. Therefore I suspect that this street can also be found there. --[[User:Chris06|Chris06]] ([[User talk:Chris06|talk]]) 15:51, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
:[https://www.newlebanonchurch.org New Lebanon Baptist Church] on Milton Ave. at Jefferson St. See [https://www.google.com/maps/place//@39.2967458,-76.5816428,231m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1?entry=ttu]. Looking west down Jefferson Street with high zoom from a distant airborne perspective. Some of the other landmarks you can see are at [[Johns Hopkins University]], more than half a mile away. --[[User:Amble|Amble]] ([[User talk:Amble|talk]]) 18:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you very much, Amble! The cityscape in the background has changed since then. This church is not on commons I think. --[[User:Chris06|Chris06]] ([[User talk:Chris06|talk]]) 06:37, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

== Lion ==

why is the lion the king of the jungle? [[User:Pheffytom|Pheffytom]] ([[User talk:Pheffytom|talk]]) 20:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
:See [[archetype]], but note that care has to be taken in order to distinguish between Plato's view vs Jung's interpretation. This will not be giving a direct explanation but illustrate Jung's description of the phenomenon. The king analogy is built by a collective [[schema]]. That of schema most often does not need or better, deserve an explanation as any individual will have and ''own'' his particular share of the explanation. That's according to his specticific position in the collective. --[[User:Askedonty|Askedonty]] ([[User talk:Askedonty|talk]]) 21:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
:See also [[Cultural depictions of lions]] for the characterization as "king of beasts". The lion hunts mainly on open woodlands and is not found in dense woodlands such as are called "[[jungle]]s", so "king of the jungle" is a bit of a misnomer. (In Indian English, though, the term "jungle" may refer to any uncultivated tract of forest or scrub habitat.) Other animals have also been called "king of the jungle", such as the [[tiger]],<sup>[https://books.google.com/books?id=pgoPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA706&dq=%22king+of+the+jungle%22&hl=en][https://books.google.com/books?id=1S0lAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA184&dq=%22king+of+the+jungle%22&hl=en]</sup> the [[peafowl]],<sup>[https://books.google.com/books?id=gz09AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA147&dq=%22king+of+the+jungle%22+%22lion%22&hl=en]</sup> the [[Asian elephant]]<sup>[https://books.google.com/books?id=uT1EAQAAMAAJ&dq=elephant+%22king+of+the+jungle%22&hl=en]</sup> and the [[gorilla]].<sup>[https://books.google.com/books?id=PDEIAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA475&dq=%22king+of+the+jungle%22&hl=en]</sup> &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 08:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
:Note also the [[Lion of Judah]], associated with the tribe and dynasty of King [[David]], and subsequently influential in Christian cultures. <span class="nowrap">[[User:Verbarson|--&nbsp;Verbarson&nbsp;]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Verbarson|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Verbarson|edits]]</sub></span> 18:26, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

= June 28 =

== Time and the Big Bang ==

:''{{small|Moved to [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science#Time and the Big Bang|the Science section]] of the Reference desk. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 15:42, 28 June 2024 (UTC)}}''

== Florida recount ==

HI. During the manual recount of ballots in Florida, in 2000, how did election officials record vote totals and communicate the results of the recount both to the elections office, the Secretary of State, and ultimately to the networks? Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/2.32.203.63|2.32.203.63]] ([[User talk:2.32.203.63|talk]]) 19:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
:Have you tried [[2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida]]? --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 21:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
:I just want to point out that given the dispute over ballots and lawsuits, the process was extensively detailed in the literature. If you can be more specific with your question, I may be able to answer it, although it is quite esoteric. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 18:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

= June 29 =

== Which US city is closest to the Equator? ==

I can't find an answer to the question above. When Googling I get answers only to questions I didn’t ask, such as "Which city in the 50 states is closest to the Equator?" (which excludes territories and dependencies, which I don't want), "Which state capital is closest?" (not my question), and "Which state is closest?" (cut it out with the states already) but not just plain "Which city is closest?".

I think the answer is Charlotte Amalie, but I'm not sure if I'm missing a territory or dependency. Thanks for any help. [[Special:Contributions/2604:3D09:A17E:7300:5DEA:D376:3AAD:571|2604:3D09:A17E:7300:5DEA:D376:3AAD:571]] ([[User talk:2604:3D09:A17E:7300:5DEA:D376:3AAD:571|talk]]) 23:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
::Hmm, I think I'm not too surprised that you would get those Google results. I would intuitively interpret "US city" to mean "city in the fifty states plus the District". If you mean to broaden it beyond that you probably need to use different phrasing. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] ([[User talk:Trovatore|talk]]) 05:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
:[[Hagåtña, Guam|Hagåtña]], the capital of [[Guam]], is closer than Pago Pago, but can hardly be called a city. However, it is labelled as such ("the City of Hagåtña") by the government of Guam. [[Dededo]] is also closer and considerably more populous than both Hagåtña and [[Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands|Charlotte Amalie]]. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 00:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
::Surely it's one of the Hawaiian cities? [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 01:19, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
:::That might depend on the definition of '''[[city]]'''. "The U.S. territory of Guam is comprised of 19 '''[[village]]s'''."<sup>[https://guam.stripes.com/travel/get-to-know-guam-hag%C3%A5t%C3%B1a-timeless-as-blood-itself.html]</sup> However, the Virgin Islands are farther south than the Hawaiian Islands, so [[Charlotte Amalie, U.S. Virgin Islands]] could be correct. Still, according to our article, it is recognized as a '''[[town]]''' by the U.S. Census Bureau. [[American Samoa]] and [[Palmyra Atoll]] are even farther south, but might not have any "cities" ([[Pago Pago, American Samoa|Pago Pago]] has the largest population at 3,656). Also note that "The Greater Pago Pago Metropolitan Area comprises several villages along Pago Pago Harbor",<sup>[https://www.americansamoa.travel/pago-pago]</sup> yet I haven't found any ''official'' source noting it as a "city". --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 02:33, 30 June 2024 (UTC) . . . <small>Edit:03:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)</small>
:::::{{small|I like how in American Samoa, Pago Pago correctly {{tqq|comprises several villages}}; whilst in Guam, Hagåtña incorrectly {{!xt|"comprises [[Comprised of|of]] villages"}}. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 11:38, 30 June 2024 (UTC)}}
::::The U.S. Census Bureau might not have a rigorous definition of {{em|city}}. [https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/guidance-geographies/terms-and-definitions.html They do seem to have] {{em|independent city}} and {{em|consolidated city}}, but mostly appear to employ the technical terms [https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/metro-micro/about.html metropolitan and micropolitan statistical areas] – which can contain a {{em|principal city}}.{{pb}}I suspect the term {{em|city}} might be one of the things that varies by state, but one can only assume that at least for their <span style="text-decoration:double line-through">unemancipated colonial toeholds</span> <del>minor outlying territories</del> {{ins|territories}} the federal government would have a single definition. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 11:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC) {{small|{{ins|edited 14:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)}}}}
:::::"I suspect the term city might be one of the things that varies by state" Yep. In my own state of North Carolina, a city is any municipality that chose to use that word when incorporating. In Massachussetts it is based on the form of government, with cities having a mayor-council or council-manager type of government. In Louisiana it is based on population, with a minimum of 5000 people needed. In North Dakota any incorporated community is a city. I could probably find many other definitions in the other states, but that should get the point across. --[[User:Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Khajidha|contributions]]) 12:29, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::PS: aside from some research stations and military installations the [[United States Minor Outlying Islands]] are uninhabited. I assume you are actually interested in the [[Territories of the United States]].--[[User:Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Khajidha|contributions]]) 12:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::: Whoops, yes, thanks. Fixed. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 14:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Is the government of Guam official enough?<sup>[https://web.archive.org/web/19961027162901/ns.gov.gu/agana.html]</sup> Reportedly,
:::::"{{tq|En la isla de Guam sólocabría hablar de ciudad en un caso: el deAgaña, que obtuvo tal título en 1686, trashaber ostentado el de villa con anterioridad.}}"<sup>[https://recyt.fecyt.es/index.php/CyTET/issue/view/4017/702], p.433</sup> — "{{serif|On the island of Guam it is only possible to speak of a city in one case: that of Agaña, which obtained such title in 1686, after having previously held the title of town.}}"
::::Being a Spanish possession at the time, the title would have been bestowed by a decree of the Spanish crown. In Europe, the traditional view is: once a city, forever a city. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 13:06, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::Not always, see [[Rochester, Kent|Rochester]] [[User:Martin of Sheffield|Martin of Sheffield]] ([[User talk:Martin of Sheffield|talk]]) 14:32, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::Traditions are not ''invariably'' upheld. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/151.227.226.178|151.227.226.178]] ([[User talk:151.227.226.178|talk]]) 19:12, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::My first job was in [[Cardiff]] which achieved city status in 1905, so I have a soft spot for [[Llandaff]], the "city within a city"; it was never incorporated, but has its own cathedral. See also [[St Davids]]. [[User:MinorProphet|MinorProphet]] ([[User talk:MinorProphet|talk]]) 17:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::I became intrigued by how the USA classifies cities when I discovered [[Soldier, Kansas]], population 102. [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 05:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::: I think it's state-by-state. In California, as far as I understand, there is no official distinction between "city" and "town"; incorporated municipalities may refer to themselves by either name. There is a distinction between a [[charter city]] and a [[general law city]], which may bear some vague analogy to the notion of "city status" that MinorProphet references, but I think it's not a very close one. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] ([[User talk:Trovatore|talk]]) 06:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::: (While our article does not describe it as a "city", you might also be interested in [[Monowi, Nebraska]].) --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] ([[User talk:Trovatore|talk]]) 06:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

= June 30 =

== Plant milk ratings ==

What is the highest rated type of plant milk for use as a creamer in coffee, in terms of taste tests? I'm not talking about brands, but rather the ''type'' of plant milk, such as soy, almond, oat, pea, etc. I've been wondering about this for a while, but I've never been able to find an answer. The other strange thing is that the answer appears to change over time, as if taste is a function of trends and market preference, maybe even culture? But surely, someone can point to a specific type of plant milk and say, "our overall taste tests show that people prefer this type in coffee over others". But what if this kind of result is the function of specific populations, where taste is determined by other factors? On the other hand, food science is fairly mature at this point, so it should be quite easy to say "x type of plant milk is preferred by most people in coffee", but not just as a function of sales (because people will often buy what is cheaper, not simply what tastes the best). Is this doable? Can one say which is both preferred and tastes the best? [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 21:54, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

:Advances in [[food science]] will hardly be of help. One can imagine a study in which a panel of tasters, say regular cappuccino users, are asked to rank various [[plant milk]]s. But designing such a study is not easy. There are many confounding issues, including personal preferences, cultural preferences, and significant differences in taste (e.g. sweetness) between brands for the same type of milk substitute. I have a hard time imagining a research council funding an independent study on ranking the suitability of [[milk substitute]]s for use as a creamer in coffee. If any such studies have been conducted, they were most likely of the type informally conducted by newspapers or magazines. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 07:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::Some plant milks are not suitable for all consumers for medical reasons. Giving almond milk to someone with a nut allergy would not be clever! [[User:Martin of Sheffield|Martin of Sheffield]] ([[User talk:Martin of Sheffield|talk]]) 08:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:My own original research{{original research inline|date=July 2024|certain=y}} involving witnessing non-vegan friends opting for plantmilk upgrades at coffee shops would indicate that {{strong|oatmilk}} is the preferred creamer for this purpose. I acknowledge the sample may not be representative and few coffee shops stock more than three or four species of non-dairy creamers. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 10:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

:::[https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/plant_based_milk ''Which plant-based ‘milk’ is best?'' (BBC)]. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 16:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::::That's very helpful. Thank you everyone. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 20:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia tells me [[milk]] comes from mammals. [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 00:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:Milk does, but [[plant milk]] does not. I'm sure you're aware that this is far from the only case in the English language where modifying a term does not make the referent an instance of the unmodified term. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] ([[User talk:Trovatore|talk]]) 01:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::Can't its supporters come up with an original name? [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 01:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Edible slurry. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 01:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::: Samuel Johnson called it "milk" in 1755, so this is not exactly a novelty, as much as it may irritate the National Milk Producers <small>''sic'' for the missing apostrophe</small> Federation and similar industry mouthpieces. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] ([[User talk:Trovatore|talk]]) 01:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::"Ignorance, madam, pure ignorance" [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 01:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::Nonsense. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] ([[User talk:Trovatore|talk]]) 01:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::{{small|I'm trying to picture a [[milking machine]] attached to a plant. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 16:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)}}
::::::::That's an image the dairy industry put in your head.
::::::::Look, I like milk and cheese. I have no particular animus against dairy farmers. But their behavior as an industry on this particular issue has been utterly loathsome and reprehensible. You shouldn't be doing their work for them. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] ([[User talk:Trovatore|talk]]) 16:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Which industry controls your head Trovatore? Or are you a special case, better than the rest of us? [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 16:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::{{small|Bit of an overreact there? Everything ok? [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 11:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)}}
:::::::::::Not an over-reaction. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 11:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::No, that is the obvious first thought when you come across the term "plant milk" ( or any of the various types thereof). No matter how long the terms have been used, they are inherently silly. --[[User:Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Khajidha|contributions]]) 16:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Although EO has some info on "milk",[https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=milk] I'm not seeing anything about oats. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 19:09, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Meh, doesn't seem silly to me, calling a culinary substitute the same term as the product it substitutes. *{{Em|Plant mammary gland secretions}} or *{{em|Teat-expressed baby plant nutrient colloid}} would be significantly sillier. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 11:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::So you're ok with calling chicory coffee, or margarine butter, or potato bread wheaten bread? [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 11:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::There's plenty of precedent for naming things after other things that are similar in appearance or purpose, whether it be chicory coffee, herbal tea, laverbread, milk of magnesia, filter cake... [[User:AlmostReadytoFly|AlmostReadytoFly]] ([[User talk:AlmostReadytoFly|talk]]) 12:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
::::: <small>*Apostrophe is not required. It could simply be a federation of producers; the producers don't necessarily possess the federation. [[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 02:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</small>
:::::: <small>In that case the plural would not be needed; it would be the "National Milk Producer Federation". I know our British friends sometimes use plural noun adjuncts, but it sounds bad on this side of the Pond. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] ([[User talk:Trovatore|talk]]) 05:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC) </small>
:::::: <small>Oh, and by the way the English genitive does not necessarily imply ''possession''. That's the clamorous error, completely indefensible and I hope you won't try, made by the US Bureau of Geographic Names, when they imposed ridiculous forms like {{!xt|*Pikes Peak}}, luckily ignored by sensible people. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] ([[User talk:Trovatore|talk]]) 05:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC) </small>
:::::::Hmmm... I live in [[Kings Langley]] which has survived without any apostrophe since the 14th century when it was ''Kyngeslangley''. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 15:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::::The apostrophe was not introduced into English until the [[Apostrophe#Historical development|16th century]]. Kings Langley is therefore too old to have used it. <span class="nowrap">[[User:Verbarson|--&nbsp;Verbarson&nbsp;]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Verbarson|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Verbarson|edits]]</sub></span> 17:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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= July 2 =

== Kenner Police Academy toys possible reissue ==

Are there future plans to reissue Kenner Police Academy toys, if its possible? [[Special:Contributions/172.13.193.84|172.13.193.84]] ([[User talk:172.13.193.84|talk]]) 15:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:Is [[Kenner Products]] even still in business? And are there plans to produce another Police Academy movie? ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 15:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::I'm afraid not. But, there's still a chance that these toys could be reissued from a different toy company, such as [[Hasbro]], even if its possible. [[Special:Contributions/172.13.193.84|172.13.193.84]] ([[User talk:172.13.193.84|talk]]) 16:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::The article says they were acquired by [[Hasbro]]. You could try contacting Hasbro and see if they have any such plans. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 16:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 3 =

== [[Cambridge, Ontario]] ==

I'm trying to find historical population levels for this city. Searching has turned up sources like [https://www.citypopulation.de/en/canada/ontario/admin/waterloo/3530010__cambridge/ this], which is great, but only goes back ~20 years. The city was formed in 1973 from the amalgamation of nearby towns/villages; I'd like to know what the population was ''then ''(or thereabouts) and a decade later, say 1980-1985 or so. In an ideal situation, I'd like to see the historical population trend, but I'll take what I can get. :-) [[User:Matt Deres|Matt Deres]] ([[User talk:Matt Deres|talk]]) 13:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
:Looking back at past Canadian censuses, I find the following figures 101,429 for 1996; 92,772 for 1991; 79,920 for 1986; 76,300 for 1981; 64,794 for 1976 (needed to go through the PDF version of a poorly printed document for that one). All of these can be found online if you look for Canadian census and the year. More recent figures are in a table in the French version of the article, which I'm sure you have looked at already [[User:Xuxl|Xuxl]] ([[User talk:Xuxl|talk]]) 15:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you kindly. [[User:Matt Deres|Matt Deres]] ([[User talk:Matt Deres|talk]]) 20:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Cambridge was formed by the merger of the city of Galt with two significantly smaller places. Historical populations for Galt may be the appropriate thing to use, depending on your purpose. --[[Special:Contributions/142.112.148.225|142.112.148.225]] ([[User talk:142.112.148.225|talk]]) 21:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

= July 4 =

== Publish type label on eBay? ==

I want to sell an appliance at eBay. Are there any concerns - privacy or otherwise - against posting a picture of the type label? ◅&nbsp;[[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian Helm]]&nbsp;[[User_Talk:SebastianHelm|🗨]] 13:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

:I can't imagine any reason why you shouldn't do that, unless it reveals any personal information? You're simply supplying information about the appliance. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 18:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)


= July 6 =

== Winston Churchill cigars ==

Can you tell me which was the actual specific cigar that was named in tribute to Winston Churchill? I got a good friend's birthday coming up. Googling turns up with loads of spam. [[User:Iloveparrots|Iloveparrots]] ([[User talk:Iloveparrots|talk]]) 05:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

:That would be [[Romeo y Julieta (cigar)|Romeo y Julieta]]: {{tq|The flagship [[vitola]] of the brand is named in his honour, a long 7" by 47 ring gauge cigar known as the Churchill. }} [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 06:19, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

== What happened? ==

If you're driving along Santa Teresa Boulevard, you'll see [https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2004567,-121.7359217,3a,15y,48.37h,77.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0KywvwZAXLsDStHqbXudDw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu this] along the way. It seems to be a memorial in memory of Nicole Sosa, who, if I'm not mistaken, died in a car crash. Who was she, and is there any more information on what happened? [[User:TrademarkedTWOrantula|<span style="color: darkgreen"><span style="font-family: Georgia">TWOrantula</span></span>]]<sup><small>TM</small></sup> <small>([[User talk:TrademarkedTWOrantula|enter the web]])</small> 23:18, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
:I'm not finding anything in Newspapers.com. If you can find a nearby library, it's possible someone there will know. But these kinds of things will occasionally turn up for people who are otherwise not well known. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 01:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
:It looks like there is something about her fatal accident [https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/02/11/map-san-jose-traffic-deaths-in-2022-pedestrians-bicyclists-drivers/ at The Mercury Sun], if anyone has an online subscription. [[User:John M Baker|John M Baker]] ([[User talk:John M Baker|talk]]) 05:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
::Headline: "{{tq|'''Woman killed when her SUV crashes into building in San Jose'''}}". Other than "a woman", the article does not provide further information about the victim. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 07:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
:::My link says she was 30 and the driver and that the accident was Nov. 18, 2022. [[User:John M Baker|John M Baker]] ([[User talk:John M Baker|talk]]) 13:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
::::There was a gofundme fundraiser for her son [https://www.instagram.com/sosapretty_/] and this instagram page[https://www.instagram.com/sosapretty_/] has pictures of her. [[User:Modocc|Modocc]] ([[User talk:Modocc|talk]]) 18:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::We have an article about this kind of thing, [[Roadside memorial]]. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 18:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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August 21

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Anniversaries

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V kategorii Úmrtí 2024 chybí Paul Spencer - Dario G. 2A00:1028:8390:B1E2:C0C5:E044:7F06:3DE4 (talk) 10:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Spencer does not have his own article. He may not be considered individually notable. Xuxl (talk) 14:59, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jun 17, 2024 · The dance music producer Paul Spencer, a member of the dance music group Dario G known for the hits Sunchyme and Carnaval de Paris, passed away at age 53 [1] . Philvoids (talk) 10:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The OP's question is not whether he died (it's clearly the case) but why he doesn't appear under the category "2024 deaths". The reason is that the category is generated from individual articles, and Mr. Spencer does not have one, for whichever reason. Xuxl (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tripping in my sleep

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When I was about to fall asleep, I felt as thought I tripped on something despite laying down on my bed. I even felt a hard surface below my feet. What is that? TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 15:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, although it reminds me of Exploding head syndrome.
Probably a type of hypnic jerk (but enough about me).  Card Zero  (talk) 15:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's exactly what it is. Unlike other people, I often seek these out, because if I can facilitate a hypnic jerk, it somehow allows me to enter a deeper state of sleep. Obviously, this is not for everyone, as most people are fearful and anxious when it comes to the feeling and try to avoid it. But I think, in my case, it helps me enter into deeper, more restful sleep states. Viriditas (talk) 20:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See also Hypnagogia. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And a subset of the above, the Night hag phenomenon, something I've experienced a few times, where it seems as if something is sitting on your chest and strangling you. Fortunately, I knew about it before experiencing it, so didn't think it was really supernatural once I'd woken, and recognised it immediately on further occurrances.
I've also repeatly felt as if someone was sitting on the bed next to me, even bouncing up and down on one occasion, the feeling of my air mattress deflating (it hadn't), and cats jumping onto the bed and laying down against me – a regular actual experience in a previous house, but here occuring in a house with none. The mind and body can do funny things! I like to think of them as free entertainment. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.209.45 (talk) 18:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Electoral College faithless electors law

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Hello. If you go to the U.S. Electoral College faithless elector page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector), you can see that Texas is also colored light green. The light green stands, for if I am not mistaken, the invalidity of the vote without a possible fine. But it is my understanding that Texas does not (at least not yet) have a law on possible faithless electors, but I could be wrong. Who's right? Thank you very much. 5.94.86.20 (talk) 15:33, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This Texas state law was passed on June 18 2023 and made effective immediately. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 14:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any (institutionalized) religion, teaching that a material statue is literally a god, and not only represents a (spiritual) god?

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HOTmag (talk) 23:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are too many qualifiers there for this question to have any well-defined answer rather than just a conversation starter:
  • institutionalized
  • teaching
  • material
  • statue
  • literally (not representationally)
  • spiritual
  • god
At its core, your question seems to be interested in the most direct ways that established religious systems have attempted to bridge the material–spiritual divide, right?Remsense ‥  01:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Statue of Marduk would qualify, apart from being over 2000 years in the past.  Card Zero  (talk) 03:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In Chinese folk religion, the City God is sometimes seen to be the actual statue enshrined in his yamen. --49.255.185.235 (talk) 04:31, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. This is limited to "folk" religion, which I doubt would be considered religion in other countries. It would be considered folklore. It is not limited to cities. In rural areas, it is common to have a statue on the corner of a lot that is considered a "god" that looks over the lot. I seriously doubt anyone truly believes that a little statue is casting magic over the land in exchange for gifts. But, it is common and if you don't do it, you are weird. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 14:27, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Arguable Shinto does with certain natural objects or phenomena being kami EvergreenFir (talk) 04:47, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tokorozawa Doll Memorial Celebration: It describes how a shinto temple offers the Ningyo Kuyosai ceremony to dispose of used dolls, traditional Japanese or Disney: To the left is a makeshift counter and there you can any hand in any doll you want. The dolls will be noted and you will receive a paper slip containing the name of your doll. The soul of the doll thus is transferred to the paper slip which you can place into a wooden box at the pyre. Burning the slip with your doll's name on it will do the same service as ceremonially burning the doll itself.[...] while all the Hello Kitty, Teddy Bear, Snoopy and so on will get unceremoniously dumped into a Tokorozawa city garbage container out of sight. It doesn't matter. By now, the paper slip has taken over the soul of the doll. It will go into the fire and the soul of the doll will thus go to heaven no matter its origin.
--Error (talk) 00:22, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
May I ask what doll heaven is like? Viriditas (talk) 00:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
100% Chucky-free. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, likely quite a few. See animism. For example, the extant Jewish, Christian, and Islamic proscriptions against idols are popularly believed to be based on their reactionary attitudes to pluralistic religious beliefs, in particular, to animist, pagan belief systems, where the idols, symbols, and in many cases plants and even animals take on literal god-like manifestations. You could start by looking at Hawaiian religion as one of many examples. See aumakua. Viriditas (talk) 00:20, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not objecting, but I notice terms like "takes on physical forms", "spirit vehicles", and "manifest". What I mean is, unsurprisingly, no religion seems to have gods that can be destroyed by destroying the god-object.  Card Zero  (talk) 03:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Destroyed for who?", I suppose would be an operative question. In a sense, the "institutionalized" and "materially-contingent" criteria are at odds with one another—the point of corporations (in the broadest sense) is that they're immortal—it doesn't make organizational sense to treat your god–statue the same way once you've got a church to run and a career to build, so to speak. Dunno if that makes sense. Remsense ‥  04:16, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The film Land of the Pharaohs (1955) imagines ancient Egyptian religion where "There's a marvelous moment when the dead are being taken away from battle in their coffins, and someone says, "Let us hear the gods of Egypt speak." The camera pans over to one of the statues of the gods, and it talks. That's it-the statue talks!" - Martin Scorsese Philvoids (talk) 12:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You neglected to mention the film was made by Howard Hawks, one of the greatest film directors of all time, and whose style was light years ahead of its time and is still relevant today. Whenever I see the name Howard Hawks, I imagine myself doing a deep Japanese bow. It's been 47 years since Hawks died and people like myself still revere him, that's how influential he was. Viriditas (talk) 20:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first sentence of the first reference I gave says who directed Land of the Pharoahs. Philvoids (talk) 13:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if serious, my dude. I was only joking. Viriditas (talk) 00:21, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This might become an issue if the statue was constructed out of sacramental bread. Shantavira|feed me 12:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In fact I'm not sure why sacramental bread is not Jesus-shaped, since it is supposed to be literally his body. Shantavira|feed me 09:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know you're joking of course—I think the different ways denominations understand what transpires in the Eucharist to be a great microcosm of the whole history: maybe I'm too undiscerning, but I feel equally receptive to the Catholic "well-defined Aristotelian mystery", the Lutheran "don't ask us how but we believe him when he says it", to the Orthodox "something definite happens but we're not sure what Greek word to use for it" to the Calvinist "definitely just a metaphor" Remsense ‥  09:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's an extended discussion over at origin of the Eucharist, which I find to be well written and informative. But to save you some trouble: nobody anywhere can make sense of the how and why of sacramental bread as it's deemed a mystery. Viriditas (talk) 09:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 29

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Fresh scents

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In my part of the world (for the purposes here, that might mean "Ontario", or "Western World", I dunno) there are a limited number of smells/tastes that are considered "fresh" and they have fairly well circumscribed areas where they're employed: mint, which is used to freshen breath (toothpaste/gum/candy); pine scent (we don't really have an appropriate article), which gets used for cars and furniture; and lemon, which gets used for furniture and room deodorization. There's a pretty limited number of others in the group: cinnamon sometimes gets used for breath freshening, some formulas use orange oil rather than lemon oil, that kind of thing. But we don't, broadly speaking, make use of pine toothpaste or mint room deodorizers, etc.
Or am I wrong and that's just the way things are near me? Our article on mint says that it was previously used as a room deodorizer, back when dirt floors were more common. I've seen cinnamon toothpaste and breath fresheners, but they're clearly a tiny minority compared to mint - are there parts of the world where that's reversed? Are there places where my list above would be completely inaccurate? Matt Deres (talk) 14:35, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consumer products for air freshening began to emerge in the late 1800s which coincided with the arrival of the first synthetically produced fragrant Aroma compounds. Aroma compounds can naturally be found in various foods, such as fruits and their peels, wine, spices, floral scent, perfumes, fragrance oils, and essential oils. Philvoids (talk) 19:53, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Smell is a social phenomenon, invested with particular meanings and values by different cultures." That's the opening line of Aroma: The Cultural History of Smell. I have yet to find the part where it discusses which scents in which part of the world mean "toothpaste" as opposed to "detergent".  Card Zero  (talk) 06:26, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While I don't have a specific answer, one thing to bear in mind is that's it's likely in quite a few places, such products were either imported when they were first introduced, or at least produced by people or companies from what we'd now call the Western world. Some of the places would be colonies of such, and even when they weren't they were often heavily involved in earlier industrialisation. And even when this wasn't the case, it's quite likely they were at least heavily influenced by and relied on stuff from there, e.g. their synthetic aromas. For example, AFAIK, the infamous Darlie toothpaste generally has mint flavours which I suspect might hark from their early days. It was a bit difficult to find much about the founders in English (it's said to originate in Shanghai from the Niem family [2] but their details are a bit unclear) but from machine translations of the Chinese article zh:DARLIE好來 it seems the founders were 严柏林 and 严中立 with Niem being a perhaps slightly unusual transliteration of Yan (surname 严). The controversial name and marketing itself is enough to show some influence from what's now the Western world, but it seems they and their employees came from zh:中国化学工业社 (Sinochem) who were possibly one of the early brands of local toothpaste in China (which our Darlie article suggests were mint flavoured). The machine translation of our article on Sinochem suggests they had problems in the early days due to a flood of foreign products. Of course I'm not totally sure whether there was a reason for mint to be associated with such things in what's now the Western world before it happened anyway. Nil Einne (talk) 22:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Menthol has local anesthetic and counterirritant qualities, that's what's up with that.  Card Zero  (talk) 23:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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