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October 5

Apple Mayflower

I am looking for information about apple "Mayflower",also photo's of blossom and fruit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.236.157.181 (talk) 07:00, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't appear on our List of apple cultivars, or on this fairly comprehensive website (linked from our article). The only reference I've found so far is this, which has a photo of the fruit. Tevildo (talk) 11:32, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you mean a real, literal "apple", but just in case, Podophyllum peltatum is called a "may apple" and also sometimes "may flower" (among many, many other names). Matt Deres (talk) 13:50, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

European Growth

What was the political, economic, and social importance of the establishment of cities? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.60.6 (talk) 15:50, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like a homework question to me - and we don't do other people's homework. You could start by looking at our city article, to see how people have defined the term - and then look at our civilisation article, as the social differentiation that is often seen as the beginnings of 'civilised society' is also often seen as a distinguishing feature of cities. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:00, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Politically, each new city enabled a new set of mayoral races, allowing people to avoid getting real jobs. Economically, this opened those real jobs to other people (provided the elected guy didn't disallow them). Socially, more people began living in cities instead of not living in them. Handing this in will at least prevent you from receiving an "incomplete" mark, if this is homework. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:59, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

sniffer dogs

Is a sniffer dog a copper because it is doing the work of a policeman and what rank is it? Horatio Snickers (talk) 20:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to our article (Police dog), "In most states [of the USA], a police dog is considered a full-fledged police officer, sometimes even given a badge", cited to this article on Slate.com. Tevildo (talk) 22:05, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Detection dog is our article relating to sniffer dogs, which doesn't differentiate those "employed" by police agencies. The article could use some info on that. 71.20.250.51 (talk) 22:19, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If a police dog bites you, he counts as a cop as far as excessive force suits go (meaning he's far harder to succesfully sue than a civilian dog). Of course, that probably varies from place to place. Not all sniffers are police dogs, and not all police dogs are sniffers. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:23, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Additionally, they're buried with "full honors" when they die in the line of duty. And given a lot of respect when they have to be euthanized after years of service as well. These are just two examples that I could find. Dismas|^(talk) 01:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 6

FPGA release cycle

How far in the future are the next ~$200 FPGA boards? If I googled right Xilinx's zedboard/microzed/picozed line (z70XX fpgas) dates back to 2012/2013. Likewise for Altera's de1-soc and sockit (cyclone v fpgas). Are yearly releases typical (implying something coming out in the next few months), or should I just buy something right now? --Koronki (talk) 01:12, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You might have better luck over at WP:RD/C. —71.20.250.51 (talk) 03:42, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's where I meant to post. After a bit of research I still haven't found anything new with a promised release date. The most interesting definite thing is the Bemicro CV-A9, which might have been cancelled (it is a few weeks delayed at the very least) but supposedly would come out at a highly subsidized price. The gotcha is that thel FPGA is high-range enough that is not supported by the free edition of Quartus II, and the full version costs $3000. As far as I can tell there is no cheap way to buy the full version, not even as a student. --Koronki (talk) 20:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

how the rainbow vacuum cleaners exported to various countries around the world?

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i want to know about how the rainbow vacuum cleaners exported to various countries around the world. also, are they exported in containers after packaging? and what u.s. seaport that the vacuum cleaners exported from (both west and east coast)? --Kiel457 (talk) 09:57, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For those who are wondering (and are equally as ignorant about vacuums as I am), Rainbow seems to be a brand of vacuum cleaner. Rexair is the article about the company that makes them. I have no idea the answer to OP's question. Dismas|^(talk) 10:24, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is Kiel457's third question on this desk about whether something rather specific is shipped in containers or not. --ColinFine (talk) 13:43, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is a 90% chance that X item is shipped to Y location in standardized shipping container.[1] —71.20.250.51 (talk) 17:15, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This reminds me of the user who continually asked how certain cars were imported to certain landlocked countries. μηδείς (talk) 17:21, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually the same guy. Check out the User talk:Kiel457 page. If you don't want to answer the question (I don't) - then just don't bother. No need to make a fuss. SteveBaker (talk) 17:27, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe he's trying to create an international business, one product and one country at a time. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, please just bugger off Baker, we know you think your created image files surpass actual policy. Trolling is to be removed as noticed, not as recognized by you. μηδείς (talk) 21:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

where does ISIL publish its videos?

Hi there,
The media always says that ISIL publish its decapitation videos through the net.
My question is where?AboutU200 (talk) 12:23, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A dedicated YouTube channel:[2] 71.20.250.51 (talk) 17:44, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That link is a story about videos posted against ISIL, as part of a counterterrorism initiative which has "a dedicated YouTube channel". I haven't looked yet, but I think I remember something about them posting to YouTube originally, then moving videos to LiveLeak because of the ban. (The linked article has a brief section about the video of the murder of James Foley, so I think I might have gotten it right for once.?) ~Helicopter Llama~ 21:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The source says the Murder of James Foley. Unless you believe being a non-muslim is a crime you should adhere to that. μηδείς (talk) 21:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was confused as to what you were talking about then i realised you had changed the section title after i'd copied and pasted; fix'd. ~Helicopter Llama~ 22:09, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict):::While that link is indeed about videos against ISIL/ISIS, it mentions various other stories with links, and if you go down the rabbithole, you'll find this: "The video, uploaded to YouTube, reportedly shows journalist James Foley being killed by an Isis fighter speaking with a British accent." (among others) -which would have been a better link, since it includes other relevant info concerning that video. Although originally uploaded to to YouTube, I can find no verifiable source stating that it was from the "dedicated YouTube channel" that ISIS uses for propaganda. -sorry 'bout that. 71.20.250.51 (talk) 22:26, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone have the help number for Homeland Security or the NSA? I think the CIA is out of business. μηδείς (talk) 02:49, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes:[3] —71.20.250.51 (talk) 03:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC) [reply]

I tried to thank this edit, but it apparently doesn't work with IP's. Note this is only DHS, not a real agency. μηδείς (talk) 04:13, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Contact info for National Security Agency→[4] (aka: "No Such Agency") —71.20.250.51 (talk) 04:24, 7 October 2014 (UTC) (You're welcome!)[reply]

Postage stamps

In the United States who dictates what size a postage stamp should be? 21:59, 6 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.74.2.32 (talk) moved to new section ~Helicopter Llama~ 22:09, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stamps come in several sizes. First, they need to conform to standards established by the Standards Board of the Universal Postal Union (if they are to be accepted internationally); then, assuming ~~size~~→[physical dimensions] is part of the design, it is reviewed and chosen by Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee and submitted to the Postmaster General, who makes the final decision. —71.20.250.51 (talk) 00:13, 7 October 2014 (UTC) Edit (clarify):03:01, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously the price of postage stamps have changed since teh very first postage stamp was developed. Today the price of general postage stamps rise above 45 cents. A year ago, the price of a first-class mail stamp went up by 1 cent in January according to CNN Money ( http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/24/news/economy/postal-stamp-price-hike/ ).

From How Products Are Made Volume 1, the postage stamp was designed and first used by Sir Rowland Hill, a tax reformer, as a way to collect fees upon delivery. Because he developed the first stamp which was .75 by .875 inch (1.9 by 2.22 centimeters), it has been the standard size ever since.

( http://www.madehow.com/Volume-1/Postage-Stamp.html )

And the value for vintage stamps keep increasing ranging anywhere from $.75 to $110,000 according to The Swedish Tiger ( http://www.theswedishtiger.com/ ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cfwi222 (talk • contribs) 23:56, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cfwi222 (talk) 23:56, 6 October 2014 (UTC) CFWI222[reply]

I think the OP is asking about physical dimensions, not the price on the stamp. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:18, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dictates? μηδείς (talk) 04:10, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, 'dictates', why not? See here and here and here, and plenty of others. Richard Avery (talk) 07:27, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just wasn't aware that the constitutional power to set standards and establish a post office used the term "dictate". μηδείς (talk) 20:03, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Postage stamp design does not directly answer the question, but says "The smallest postage stamp on record was issued by Mecklenburg-Schwerin in 1856, and was a square, with sides measuring 10 millimeters. The biggest stamps in history were used in the USA from 1865 and measured 52 by 95 millimeters, but were used exclusively for mailing newspapers." It does not list the smallest US stamps ever issued. Edison (talk) 17:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is the market share for intrinsically safe two way radios?

I would like any info that would help me find out how big this market is and who are it's players. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geemack1 (talk • contribs) 22:40, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Define "intrinsically safe". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:26, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably as described in our intrinsic safety article - electrical equipment designed for use in hazardous areas, where sparks etc could be an ignition source. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:32, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That occurred to me, along with the question of whether they could be listened-in-on. The OP is probably asking about your scenario, but clarification would be good. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:36, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about the size of the market, but most companies that make radios (Motorola, Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, etc) include an intrinsically-safe model in their range. Tevildo (talk) 23:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

An aside: It would seem pretty easy to seal up a radio so that no internal spark or hot component could ignite an explosive atmosphere around the radio. It would obviously be better to use such a device than one which sparked when power was turned on and off or when it transmitted. But it does not seem very "safe" to operate a radio transmitter with any significant output power in said explosive atmosphere. 19th century researchers studied radio by means of its ability to cause a spark across a gap in a detector, and the detector could be pretty basic, like a piece of wire with a small gap between it and another piece of metal, or even a circle of wire with the two ends in close proximity and no ground connection.How much actual RF power did Hertz's transmitter put out, to be able to produce a visible spark between the ends of a circle of wire? An imperfect connection/small gap between metal objects might be able to produce a spark when an "intrinsically safe" transmitter is operated nearby. I suppose a good practice would be to bond metal things together in rooms where an explosive atmosphere is likely. Edison (talk) 17:52, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 7

What's this site's agenda?

I was doing some research about the concentration camp that was built in Terezin during WWII. The Germans called it Theresienstadt. And I found a link (at the bottom of our page) to see the video of the film that was made there. There is a caution next to the link, letting me know that the page has pro-Nazi/anti-Semite text on it. And that's true, it's all about how the Holocaust wasn't real. But the website seems legit. It's called the Internet Archive and it claims to be "building a digital library of Internet sites and other cultural artifacts in digital form". So why does it have all this Nazi bullshit on it?46.208.148.199 (talk) 22:07, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gross lies (suitably marked as such) are as much part of our cultural deposit as incontrovertible truths are. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:22, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) The Internet Archive tries to archive all of the internet - including the good and the bad. It's often used to link to defined states of a given website. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 22:24, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) — :Internet Archive is a legit site. Their "agenda" can be found on their 'about' page here:[5]. Like any library, it is a collection, not an editorial service. And like Wikipedia, it is not censored. Their slogan is "Universal access to all knowledge", and not "Universal access to non-controversial knowledge". —71.20.250.51 (talk) 22:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC))[reply]

A similar questions comes up with Nazi or KKK uniforms, etc. Some argue that they should be destroyed, while others argue that they should be put in a museum, lest we forget. StuRat (talk) 17:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 8

Jethro Tull horse powered hoe

Why is 'horse powered hoe' the only name given for this device? The original small-scale version looks suspiciously like what Americans call the 'plow.' Aren't they used for the same purpose, to overturn earth for additional fertility? Going by the pictured apparatus, Jethro Tull (or the Chinese or whomever) invented the plow and called it the horse powered hoe. Am I wrong? Shouldn't an addendum be added indicating that the horse powered hoe is also the plow - and that he is the modern day inventor? Thank you.2602:304:B017:7330:781C:54BC:1012:3A59 (talk) 01:36, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As suggested in Jethro Tull (agriculturist), hoeing is not plowing. Plowing is breaking up the soil as the first step in the planting process. Hoeing comes after the plants are growing, its purpose being to remove weeds. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the English medieval period usually said to end in 1485?

The ascension of Henry VII as king of England in 1485 is traditionally the dividing line between the medieval period and early modern period. Why is this the case, since the major hallmarks of the modern era -- namely, religious reformation, renaissance humanist thought, and the age of exploration -- all belong to the era of Henry the VIII (1509-47) and his successors, not Henry VII? Thank you. Zombiesturm (talk) 03:40, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to Middle Ages, they are using the Battle of Bosworth Field as the dividing line. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:07, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Henry VII became King right after the B. of B. Stop trying to pretend like you know what you are talking about. Thank you. Zombiesturm (talk) 14:29, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Which is also where "time immemorial" stops. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 04:30, 8 October 2014 (UTC)~~[reply]

Henry II died at Bosworth?. —Tamfang (talk) 08:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good Lord! I've uttered an untruth. How could that possi-bly have happened! -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 08:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC) [reply]

At my University, the medieval English history options ended with the start of the Wars of the Roses, and early modern began with Bosworth, which cunningly meant that undergraduates didn't need to study the WotR in anything more than the most trivial manner. A less conventional take on this traditional hard border. You get other traditional hard borders, some of which are really specific, like Christmas Day 800. Historiography has a field day attacking and supporting (but mostly attacking) these arbitrary boundaries. --Dweller (talk) 08:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See Periodization --Dweller (talk) 09:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Dweller - the key word being arbitrary. England really edged into early modern from the Statutes of Labourers in the wake of the Black Death, but rating a given year as 46% medieval is just as arbitrary and less than helpful. If you're going to stick a pin in a timeline, it might as well be Richard III's death and the accession of Henry Tudor. Henry, and the other Tudors, had a new style of government, appeasing the landed classes that kept them in power, while whittling away their power to destabilise the throne, centralising political power. Summarised on the BBC site. Fiddlersmouth (talk) 09:17, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, this question might get better answers on the Humanities Desk. --Dweller (talk) 09:37, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but these answers are not helpful. Could you please try harder? I am asking WHY 1485 is the dividing line. I gave specific examples of stereotypically "modern" events that did not get underway until the 1510's and later. Thank you. Zombiesturm (talk) 14:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Another perspective, that's about when The_Renaissance started, and we can't have middle ages and Renaissance at the same time! If it makes you feel better, Early_modern_period is described as beginning "c. 1500."

More seriously: as described above, there are several fuzzy dates that could be chosen for designating periods of history, and academics will bicker about what is the "best" date to choose. There's just no way around that. I was taught by an art historian that the Italian Renaissance was definitely underway by 1485, though some people defend earlier dates. That time was picked because of certain influential artists and such, though you can read through the articles for other technological and military events of the surrounding time. Of course Italy is not England, but another key driver to modernity in Europe is the printing press, developed c. 1450. So by 1485, Movable_type#Metal_movable_type_in_Europe was already moving ideas and culture around much more quickly than before, and England was starting to leave their middle ages, even if the change was not unquestionably marked by a dramatic historical event. (p.s. can you please be a little more polite? We are all volunteers here. I answered because I was interested, but "try harder" isn't a great way to get people to help you...) SemanticMantis (talk) 15:25, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, sorry. Thanks for your answer. Zombiesturm (talk) 18:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pensions

What happen when a retired person does not withdraw his pension for a period of 10 years and he is still alive ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.64.101.237 (talk) 03:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In other words, the OP needs to contact the employer or a lawyer, and we have no references to provide.

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

I think Medeis means he or she needs the help of a lawyer, the person actually is seeking help from random people. I also think that a call to the pension paying department or company might be useful. Richard Avery (talk) 07:31, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(I've removed Medeis' "hat" of this question because it isn't a legal matter unless & until someone violates whatever terms and conditions were laid out in the pension plan and you have to take legal action. On that basis you'd have to hat every question that might possibly have legal entanglements, and 99% of questions would have to be hidden! At this point, we can assume good faith on the part of the pension provider - and that this issue is simply a question about the facts of how pension plans are run).

Clearly this depends on what the terms of your pension plan are. You need to either discuss this with the pension provider - or find the documents that describe the pension plan that you're talking about and read what they have to say. You don't tell us whether this is a private pension or a government pension - or in which place this is happening, so it's going to be impossible for us to answer without more information. But (as Richard says), your first move should be to ask the pension provider what the terms of the pension plan are regarding unclaimed pensions. It's perfectly possible that the back-pension is just sitting there waiting to be claimed - or that there might be some clause saying that unpaid pensions are forfeit after some period of time. It's not impossible that you'll need to talk to a lawyer in the event that you don't get a satisfactory answer - but at this point, there is no reason to assume that the pension provider won't just say "Oh sure, we have $100,000 sitting here just waiting for you to pick it up!"....but you won't know until you ask. SteveBaker (talk) 17:05, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to place any referenced answers outside the hat. μηδείς (talk) 20:00, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Old New York

what is the old name of New York city ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.64.101.237 (talk) 04:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Try New Amsterdam. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:15, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it was Nieuw Amsterdam in Dutch. --174.88.135.222 (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And a newer old York (which replaced the old capital, Newark, across from New York) became Old Toronto. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:01, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Which is never called "Old Toronto" outside of Wikipedia. It's a pity that the attempts to rename that article have failed. --174.88.135.222 (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While I had thought that Newark in New Jersey came from New York, it appears it came from "New Ark" or "New Work" (History of Newark, New Jersey). But what do the older Newark's name mean? 75.41.109.190 (talk) 16:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC) [reply]

There's also a Newark, Delaware but the names are not pronounce the same. μηδείς (talk) 19:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's named after Newark-on-Trent in Nottinghamshire. "The name means ‘new work’ (with reference to Newark Castle) to distinguish it from an unidentified defended site known as ‘The Aldwark’".[6] Alansplodge (talk) 11:52, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably the same for the Upper Canadian one. Those English sure liked to name places after English places. The particular Englishman who named it was born southwest of Peterborough. Where's Toronto today? Southwest of Peterborough. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:40, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Also studied at Oxford (not Oxford) and died in Exeter (not Exeter). And of course, he named a town after himself in Norfolk County (not Norfolk County). InedibleHulk (talk) 23:47, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Pink Martini: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAgu7RloMn8&index=24&list=PL3993679FB0700D34 DOR (HK) (talk) 07:08, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be confused with The New Amsterdam. Now pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:34, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Apparently, I'm confusing that with another place in the song, unless Adam Duritz is 100 years old, or he and Jones literally looked into the future. Seems to have been in San Francisco, but not this one. Somewhere on Columbus Avenue (not Columbus Avenue). InedibleHulk (talk) 08:42, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Aha! That old New Amsterdam is now the International Sports Club. Not that anyone asked. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:07, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

All-you-can-eat salad bars near Detroit ?

I'm trying to find one that doesn't also offer other (fattening) items. So far the best I've found is BD's Mongolian BBQ, which has a soup and salad bar for $7 at lunch. Now I'm sure everyone will say I can go to a place with an all-you-can-eat salad and taco bar and only eat the salad. No, I can't. I don't have that kind of self control. Outback also has an unlimited soup and salad offer at lunch, although they bring it to the table. That would be acceptable, but they also bring bread, and I can't resist that or the fattening soup. So, does any place offer an unlimited salad bar only (or unlimited salads brought to the table only) ? If so, I'm sure it would help my dieting efforts, as I would eat so much salad I wouldn't want anything fattening. (It's OK if they offer more expensive options to include other things besides the salad bar, since I only have to resist that at the beginning, when I place my order.) StuRat (talk) 17:43, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you manage to ask the wait-staff "Please don't bring bread to the table."?? Seems like that should be manageable. Honestly, if you don't have the willpower to avoid putting certain foods onto your plate, what make you think you'll have the willpower to go to the selected restaurant?

The other issue is that most restaurant salads have dressing - and very often the dressing has significant numbers of calories - so "all you can eat salad" doesn't necessarily work better than a fixed-portion of a relatively higher calorie food.

Honestly, I think it would be hard to find a place that doesn't offer a range of foods including a few less-healthy options - because even people who want to eat healthy often bring people along with them who don't.

SteveBaker (talk) 17:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think you missed the gist of my Q. I can control myself long enough to ask for the all-you-can-eat salad bar. If that comes with nothing else fattening, then I'm good. As for salad dressings, those generally have good fats, as the good fats tend to be liquid. Unhealthy fats tend to be solid at room temp, which makes them not suitable as salad dressings. And yes, if I could eat just a small portion that would be a solution too, but I can't. I will eat until my stomach is filled. So, I need a large quantity of nutrient-dense, low-calorie food, with lots of fiber, as that makes it filling. I also need protein, but I can get that at home (I cook salmon fillets). But I find making lots of salad to be too labor intensive (washing, chopping, etc.), so I'd prefer to go out for that. And no, if bread comes with my meal, I won't be able to resist it. I'm guessing you don't have a weight problem, if you think "just eat less" is practical advice.

BTW, I'd love to open a "healthy food only" restaurant, for people like me, who can't resist temptation. Judging from the number of obese people in the US, even if only 10% would go to such a place to lose weight, that's quite a market. StuRat (talk) 17:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I do have a weight problem...I was up close to 300lb and now I'm at 210lb after two years of hard calorie restriction...I'm getting close to my goal of having a weight in lbs that starts with a '1', but those last 10lbs are proving to be incredibly stubborn. :-( So I know exactly where you're coming from. The problem I've always had is that I can "eat less" at mealtimes - but I get so insanely hungry between meals. It's taken some cunning trickery to find foods that, while they don't seem so satisfying at the time - actually hang around in my stomach for long enough to get me through to the next meal. Salads quite utterly fail to do that for me - I can stuff myself to bursting and STILL crave a snack an hour later. I need nuts and other foods that are slower to digest....that whole glycemic index thing. What's worked for me is having a bagle for breakfast (200cal), nothing more than 150cal for lunch, and whatever I fancy for supper (500 to 600 cal, typically) - and I can lose 1lb per week fairly reliably. Exercising seemed to have little or no effect on me, but to make me miserable...but no two people are alike, so where your head is definitely matters. SteveBaker (talk) 20:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When I was last there, Charlie Brown's (a chain I assume may be in your area) offered an all-you-can eat salad bar for $10. The food was excellent, I can't say there was nothing fattening. You'll have to ask the server what their policy is when they seat you, since I am not sure it is an advertised menu option. The branch I used to go to closed two years ago, unfortunately. Best chain I have ever eaten in. μηδείς (talk) 19:54, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard of that chain, so I guess that means we don't have them in Detroit. StuRat (talk) 22:53, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

StuRat, you can ask at http://detroit.askalo.com/Dining-Out/506/.

—Wavelength (talk) 20:18, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if they still do, but Pizza Hut used to have an unlimited salad bar only, that was mostly greens/veggies/fruit/dressing. I think it had croutons, but not "bread" per-se. They may have changed their policies though, in reaction to people abusing the "one plate" pricing option [7]. For alternate/local places to ask, try reddit.com/r/detroit. SemanticMantis (talk) 21:27, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll check them out. StuRat (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to suggest PizzaHut, but you said that you didn't want somewhere where high-calorie food was available. IIRC, PizzaHut tends to put its salad buffet beside the pizza buffet. As you pay less for salad-only, you must not take any pizza. Will the staff shouting at you give you enough will-power? CS Miller (talk) 11:03, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If weight control is your objective, why all-you-can-eat? I am in constant weight-control mode (successfully, as I am not overweight), and my strategy for lunch (when I don't bring lunch from home) is to order just a salad. I find that it is important to get protein and healthy fat with my salad, so I usually order a grilled chicken Caesar salad with some parmesan or a Greek salad with feta and olives. Just don't order any bread. Ask them not to include bread with your order. Salads like these are available at most pizza joints in my region. Panera Bread also does good salads; you just have to refuse the bread or potato chips they offer along with it. Protein and healthy fat are important to include in the salad because they will make you more satiated. As a result, you will be less tempted to snack and will not be ravenous and pig out at suppertime. Marco polo (talk) 21:38, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is to cram so much salad in my stomach that I'm no longer hungry. If I eat a small meal, I will be hungry later and eat something I shouldn't. And I can't manage to refuse food I've paid for, that's the whole point. (Croutons I don't care for, so those I can refuse.) The salad dressing has the healthy fat and I cook salmon for the protein. StuRat (talk) 22:51, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Cramming so much that I'm no longer hungry" doesn't sound like a recipe for success. Surely you need to somehow find a healthier relationship to food and eating (which I readily admit is not an easy thing to achieve). If you've been raised on the "three square meals a day, and (almost) nothing in between" mantra, and you feel guilty whenever you do eat anything in between, particularly when it's something you "shouldn't", do you stop and ask yourself whether there's something wrong with that picture? Who or what determines what's on the "shouldn't" list? If you're going (at least sometimes) to eat those things regardless, what purpose is the list serving other than to make yourself feel guilty for your own choices? Eating should never be accompanied by guilt or shame, and if it is, then that's a deeper issue that needs to be addressed, and if your focus is only on the composition of your diet and the timing of your eating, you're skimming over the real problem and you'll likely struggle forever. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:50, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There does seem to be a Charlie Brown's in Almont, MI. http://www.restaurant.com/charlie-browns-almont-pid=167549 μηδείς (talk) 20:00, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- If you mean Charlie Brown's Fresh Grill, those are only in New Jersey (15 restaurants), New York (2) and one in PA. Rmhermen (talk) 23:08, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks, User:Rmhermen, that is the logo. Seems the name itself is not trademarked. I witnessed an altercation once between a waitress, who charged a customer who did not order an entree a $10 fee, when he pointed to the menu saying there was a $2 fee for unlimited salad bar use along with an entree. Apparently he expected his girlfriend to buy the meal, and to pay $2 to eat what was otherwise a rather sumptuous meal on her coattails. Stu's invited next time he's out east, but the $10 fee will be on him. μηδείς (talk) 02:56, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 9

question about three studies

Question moved to Science Desk.

Even though it's already been answered? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:17, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Such movures (movages?) are appropriate for archival purposes. μηδείς (talk) 18:36, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And I expect the OP will ask follow on Q's in the same topic; she has done so before (assuming I recognize the OP correctly) - Eron^Talk 21:26, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 10

Why was there only one type of African-American slave?

Africa is a huge continent with a diverse population. Why did slavers capture only people who looked like Patsey from 12 Years A Slave when there were plenty of Egyptians, Arabs and various other lightly-tanned, straighter-haired people to choose from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C4EF:73A0:918B:EBE3:685C:C84C (talk) 03:24, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They did not all look alike. The slaves shipped to the Americas came from various tribes, mostly in West Africa while the slaves taken to Arabic countries came mainly from East Africa. Europeans were brought as slaves into North Africa. See Atlantic slave trade, Arab slave trade, Barbary slave trade. Rmhermen (talk) 04:18, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It was largely a question of geography and prevailing winds.

Depiction of the classical model of the Triangular trade

The winds made the "Triangle Trade" efficient for shipping companies. The bottom leg of the triangle was West-Africa to Southern USA. Slaves were the most valuable 'cargo' to haul on that leg of the trip. Running slaves from a different part of Africa would have meant taking a less efficient (and more expensive) route. They wouldn't have been able to compete, from a business standpoint. APL (talk) 05:34, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic slave trade
Arab slave trade

No, I'm right. African-American slaves in historical photos all have the same general appearance. I didn't ask about slaves that were taken to other countries. I'd never heard of the "Triangle Trade" before. Talk about bad luck...

I assume that's the original poster talking. ~~No, you did ask about other countries, because you didn't mention~~ what country you were interested in. Anyway, now you know. --174.88.135.88 (talk) 12:18, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I see. You mentioned the country in the heading but not in the body of your question. Some people answering might miss it when you do that. --174.88.135.88 (talk) 12:20, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 No, I'm right. African-American slaves in historical photos all have the same general appearance. I didn't ask about slaves that were taken to other countries. I'd never heard of the "Triangle Trade" before. Talk about bad luck...
-:I assume that's the original poster talking.  No, you did ask about other countries, because you didn't mention what country you were interested in.  Anyway, now you know. --[[Special:Contributions/174.88.135.88|174.88.135.88]] ([[User talk:174.88.135.88|talk]]) 12:18, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
+:I assume that's the original poster talking.  <del>No, you did ask about other countries, because you didn't mention</del> what country you were interested in.  Anyway, now you know. --[[Special:Contributions/174.88.135.88|174.88.135.88]] ([[User talk:174.88.135.88|talk]]) 12:18, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
+::Oops, I see.  You mentioned the country in the heading but not in the body of your question. Some people answering might miss it when you do that. --[[Special:Contributions/174.88.135.88|174.88.135.88]] ([[User talk:174.88.135.88|talk]]) 12:20, 10 October 2014 (UTC)