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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Holiday Wishes (Idina Menzel album) | 2 = Holiday Wishes | discuss = | reason = The unqualified title is currently a dab page listing four works. Only one of the four entries is an article, the others are mentions with or without corresponding redirects. In those circumstances, I believe it's generally preferred to have the article at the unqualified address and the dab page at "(disambiguation)", yes? | sig = [[Special:Contributions/89.183.221.75|89.183.221.75]] ([[User talk:89.183.221.75|talk]]) 19:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | requester = 89.183.221.75}} |
* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Holiday Wishes (Idina Menzel album) | 2 = Holiday Wishes | discuss = | reason = The unqualified title is currently a dab page listing four works. Only one of the four entries is an article, the others are mentions with or without corresponding redirects. In those circumstances, I believe it's generally preferred to have the article at the unqualified address and the dab page at "(disambiguation)", yes? | sig = [[Special:Contributions/89.183.221.75|89.183.221.75]] ([[User talk:89.183.221.75|talk]]) 19:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | requester = 89.183.221.75}} |
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*:The dabpage is unnecessary; a hatnote to [[Holiday Wishes: From Me to You]] is sufficient. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 20:07, 5 March 2024 (UTC) |
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==== Requests to revert undiscussed moves ==== |
==== Requests to revert undiscussed moves ==== |
Revision as of 20:07, 5 March 2024
If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
If you are here because you want an admin to approve of your new article or your proposed page move, you are in the wrong place.
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- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- Hunawng (24°49′N 94°53′E) (currently a redirect to Hulaung) → Hulaung (move · discuss) – incorrect place name, based on the map and lack of place code a second Hunaung in the vicinity of this village's coordinates.
- Note: I can make Hunawng a redirect to the other Hunawng/Hunaung after this move; overall there are three villages with similar names I'm attempting WP:NATURAL disambiguation with based on the english romanizations used by the two sources I found (the two "Hulaung"s have different Burmese names, so it's a romanization choice to disambiguate) EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 19:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- KPDX (TV) (currently a redirect to KPDX) → KPDX (move · discuss) – Move from original title without consensus; ICAO code disambiguation can be resolved with hatnote Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- KASN (TV) (currently a redirect to KASN) → KASN (move · discuss) – Move from original title without consensus; ICAO code disambiguation can be resolved with hatnote Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Travel requirements for Polish citizens (currently a redirect to Visa requirements for Polish citizens) → Visa requirements for Polish citizens (move · discuss) – To make the title of the article consistent with all other "Visa requirements for ... citizens", see that discussion for context. Thearones (talk) 19:26, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- This was posted here and contested just last week. User:Thearones, this isn't uncontroversial and you know it. 162 etc. (talk) 20:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Holiday Wishes → Holiday Wishes (disambiguation) (move · discuss) – (see below) 89.183.221.75 (talk) 19:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Holiday Wishes (Idina Menzel album) (currently a redirect to Holiday Wishes) → Holiday Wishes (move · discuss) – The unqualified title is currently a dab page listing four works. Only one of the four entries is an article, the others are mentions with or without corresponding redirects. In those circumstances, I believe it's generally preferred to have the article at the unqualified address and the dab page at "(disambiguation)", yes? 89.183.221.75 (talk) 19:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The dabpage is unnecessary; a hatnote to Holiday Wishes: From Me to You is sufficient. 162 etc. (talk) 20:07, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
- History of Western Christianity (currently a redirect to History of Christianity) → History of Christianity (move · discuss) – This was recently moved as part of a GA reassessment, where it was suggested that the article didn't have sufficient coverage of eastern Christianity. The "solution" to this was apparently to completely change the scope of the article,which means we now don't have a history of Christianity article at all. I think this was definitely a WP:PCM whcuy should at the very least be discussed at RM. The better solution would be to hive off material into child articles if its excessive, and then bring in the necessary detail on eastern and indeed Christianity in the global south as new summary prose. — Amakuru (talk) 15:31, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Contested technical requests
- Guy_de_Téramond (currently a redirect to Guy de Téramond Peralta) → Guy de Téramond Peralta (move · discuss) – to avoid confusion of this biographical page with identical name of French writer in the French Wikipedia https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_de_Téramond 81.111.130.118 (talk) 12:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Unless and until the French writer has an article on the English Wikipedia, this article title is unambiguous. Adding "Peralta" simply for the sake of disambiguation also violates WP:COMMONNAME. 162 etc. (talk) 16:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Benjamin Bryant (broadcaster) → Benjamin Bryant (move · discuss) – Subject is only current, living person named "Benjamin Bryant" on Wikipedia, and is the top result on Google and Bing for "Benjamin Bryant." Additionally, descriptor (broadcaster) is insufficient/inaccurate. Article documents valid notability in multiple fields, including as government official on historic projects, actor/filmmaker, and as a media figure (including, but not limited to, broadcasting). This title is currently a redirect to the disambiguation page. MHWood82 (talk) 20:42, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Primary topic grabs are, by definition, not uncontroversial. Dabpage has been moved back to its stable title. 162 etc. (talk) 22:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @MHWood82: Note that the policy standard for moving this to the base name "Benjamin Bryant" without disambiguation can be found at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Toolforge:WikiNav shows that there were 11 click-throughs from the disambiguation page Benjamin Bryant to Ben Bryant (American football) in the past month and <10 to Benjamin Bryant (broadcaster) (i.e., fewer than the threshold for Wikipedia to report the numbers). Living subjects aren't the only ones considered (see the essay about WP:Recentism), and the "Ben" articles each indicate those are short for Benjamin. This move is potentially controversial, so it would require a requested-move discussion, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 00:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Primary topic grabs are, by definition, not uncontroversial. Dabpage has been moved back to its stable title. 162 etc. (talk) 22:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Edo University, Iyamho (currently a redirect to Edo State University, Uzairue) → Edo State University (currently a redirect instead to Edo State University, Uzairue) (move · discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME Broc (talk) 13:58, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have any reliable sources showing that this is the common name? I saw this source on the page and thought maybe it would work, but the title uses Edo State and still calls it by the current name in the body text. Also there is possibility this could get confused for the previous name of Ambrose Alli University per the note in the article. Google Trends was inconclusive here unfortunately. ASUKITE 16:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Broc: There is a reply here about your move request. SilverLocust 💬 08:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping. I think my request might have been rushed. Recent media coverage (e.g.: [1][2][3]) uses the name "Edo State University, Uzairue" while "Edo University, Iyamho", the current title, is the former name of the university. My request should be amended/deleted and the page should be moved to Edo State University, Uzairue. Broc (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Broc: Please remove this request and create a new one with the new title. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:27, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Broc: Please remove this request and create a new one with the new title. --Ahecht (TALK
- Thanks for the ping. I think my request might have been rushed. Recent media coverage (e.g.: [1][2][3]) uses the name "Edo State University, Uzairue" while "Edo University, Iyamho", the current title, is the former name of the university. My request should be amended/deleted and the page should be moved to Edo State University, Uzairue. Broc (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Broc: There is a reply here about your move request. SilverLocust 💬 08:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have any reliable sources showing that this is the common name? I saw this source on the page and thought maybe it would work, but the title uses Edo State and still calls it by the current name in the body text. Also there is possibility this could get confused for the previous name of Ambrose Alli University per the note in the article. Google Trends was inconclusive here unfortunately. ASUKITE 16:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Driver's licenses in the United States → Driving licence in the United States (currently a redirect back to Driver's licenses in the United States) (move · discuss) – Consistency with other "Driving licence in <country>" articles. –Vipz (talk) 01:15, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:ENGVAR - use American English for an article with close ties to the United States. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Vipz: This technical request has been contested. As such, it would require a requested-move discussion, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 00:20, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:ENGVAR - use American English for an article with close ties to the United States. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Gaza humanitarian crisis (2023–present) → Gaza humanitarian crisis (currently a redirect back to Gaza humanitarian crisis (2023–present)) (move · discuss) – Remove unnecessary parentheses/disambiguator. – Howard🌽33 13:22, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Obviously controversial and unlikely to be endorsed. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:36, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- I thought it would be pretty uncontroversial considering that all we’re removing is a set of parentheses and the latter already is a redirect to the former. But fair enough ig. – Howard🌽33 19:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Howardcorn33, a good rule of thumb is if it's in any CTOP area, the move is going to be controversial unless it's something like unambiguous misspelling (adding a random F at the front of a name or something). Sennecaster (Chat) 03:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I thought it would be pretty uncontroversial considering that all we’re removing is a set of parentheses and the latter already is a redirect to the former. But fair enough ig. – Howard🌽33 19:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Obviously controversial and unlikely to be endorsed. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:36, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dell Inspiron → Inspiron (currently a redirect back to Dell Inspiron) (move · discuss) – Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE) ComputerUserUser (talk) 19:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- I recall seeing several RMs in which the removal of the name of the maker of a console or computer product was opposed, arguing for retaining that information for reasons of consistency and clarity/recognizability, so this seems like a potentially controversial move. It should get a full RM discussion (preferably formatted as a multi-page RM with Intel Skulltrail → Skulltrail). — BarrelProof (talk) 18:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Intel Skulltrail → Skulltrail (currently a redirect back to Intel Skulltrail) (move · discuss) – Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE) ComputerUserUser (talk) 21:59, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- I recall seeing several RMs in which the removal of the name of the maker of a console or computer product was opposed, arguing for retaining that information for reasons of consistency and clarity/recognizability, so this seems like a potentially controversial move. It should get a full RM discussion (preferably formatted as a multi-page RM with Dell Inspiron → Inspiron). — BarrelProof (talk) 18:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Apple II clones (currently a redirect to List of Apple II clones) → Apple II clone (currently a redirect instead to List of Apple II clones) (move · discuss) – Make shorter and more concise ComputerUserUser (talk) 20:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- The usage of "clones" is accurate here because there are multiple Apple II clones. The singular would be used if there was only one clone. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ComputerUserUser: These three technical requests have been contested. As such, they would require requested-move discussions, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your requests. You can remove them after opening discussions (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 00:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The usage of "clones" is accurate here because there are multiple Apple II clones. The singular would be used if there was only one clone. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- User:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Influencer → Influencer (currently a redirect instead to Internet celebrity) (move · discuss) – Correcting the conflation of Internet celebrity and Influencer. Currently influencer redirects to the other term. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Has this gone through WP:AFC? 162 etc. (talk) 22:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- This should go through AFC in my opinion. I have my doubts of whether it would survive a deletion discussion. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:14, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have never gone through AFC unless a WP:COI. On what grounds would this be deleted. It should be clear that an influencer is different than an Internet celebrity, which is the point. Some internet celebrities are not influencers and some influencers are not internet celebrities. Thus, we need a new article. This is stub/start territory, but not AFD territory.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger The place to discuss this would be the talk page for Internet celebrity. I see you tried and got no response, but you didn't use WP:PROPSPLIT, which would help. You could also let various related wikiprojects know about the discussion. -- asilvering (talk) 06:24, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- TonyTheTiger is well past the autoconfirmed threshhold and unlikely to have a CoI here. I fail to see why this would need to go through AfC, as AfC encourages established editors to create articles on their own. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:32, 4 March 2024 (UTC)- Three editors have already expressed WP:N concerns, so this should definitely be discussed somewhere, and WP:RMT is not the best place for that. I see OP has opened a thread at Talk:Internet celebrity#Splitting article, but no discussion ensued. 162 etc. (talk) 16:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Understood, but AFC isn't the best place for that either. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Understood, but AFC isn't the best place for that either. --Ahecht (TALK
- Three editors have already expressed WP:N concerns, so this should definitely be discussed somewhere, and WP:RMT is not the best place for that. I see OP has opened a thread at Talk:Internet celebrity#Splitting article, but no discussion ensued. 162 etc. (talk) 16:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have never gone through AFC unless a WP:COI. On what grounds would this be deleted. It should be clear that an influencer is different than an Internet celebrity, which is the point. Some internet celebrities are not influencers and some influencers are not internet celebrities. Thus, we need a new article. This is stub/start territory, but not AFD territory.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Main issue I see here is that content from Internet celebrity would need to be moved to the new article as well, rather than just a new page. As asilvering put it, proposing through PROPSPLIT would make most sense here, as I don't doubt there is enough content that already exists on IC to move to Inlufencer. Best of luck with it. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 22:17, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- This should go through AFC in my opinion. I have my doubts of whether it would survive a deletion discussion. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:14, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Nicholas Nelson (Jamaican footballer) (currently a redirect to Nicholas Nelson (footballer)) → Nicholas Nelson (currently a redirect instead to Nick Nelson) (move · discuss) – Current page for "Nicholas Nelson" is a redirect to a character from the movie and graphic novel Heartstopper. While the character is more popular than the soccer player, it makes sense for the person with the name "Nicholas Nelson" to have the base, non-disambiguated page name with a hat note to the character. Happy to discuss further. Debartolo2917 (talk) 04:40, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- It would make more sense IMO for "Nicholas Nelson" to go to the dab page Nick Nelson listing two other people who could be called Nicholas Nelson. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll note that all incoming links to Nicholas Nelson appear to be soccer-related. 162 etc. (talk) 05:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- It would make more sense IMO for "Nicholas Nelson" to go to the dab page Nick Nelson listing two other people who could be called Nicholas Nelson. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- SkyDrive (eVTOL) (currently a redirect to SkyDrive (company)) → SkyDrive (move · discuss) – There is only one article titled SkyDrive, so the disambiguator is unnecessary. SkyDrive is currently a dab page, but the only other page it points to is OneDrive, which was formerly named SkyDrive. Once moved, there should be a hatnote at the top of SkyDrive directing readers to OneDrive. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- With SkyDrive being the former name of OneDrive until 10 years ago, discussion is needed for usurping the SkyDrive title. GTrang (talk) 04:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)