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#'''Eh'''. Fails [[User:Steel1943/RfA criteria|my RfA criteria]], but I got to commend this editor for shamelessly putting themselves out there. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #2F4F4F;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 03:36, 21 June 2019 (UTC) |
#'''Eh'''. Fails [[User:Steel1943/RfA criteria|my RfA criteria]], but I got to commend this editor for shamelessly putting themselves out there. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #2F4F4F;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 03:36, 21 June 2019 (UTC) |
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#'''Neutral''', moved from oppose. I'll be the first to admit that today's RfA standards are ridiculous, and I wanted to support this, but the diffs brought up by Aboideau and Cryptic and lack of more recent vandal-fighting activity to compare them with raise concern that the candidate might not understand how we properly deal with vandals here on en.wiki. I would request rollback, as others have suggested, and get some more experience. – [[user:filelakeshoe|filelakeshoe]] ([[user talk:filelakeshoe|t]] / [[special:contributions/filelakeshoe|c]]) [[user:filelakeshoe/kocour|🐱]] 07:04, 21 June 2019 (UTC) |
#'''Neutral''', moved from oppose. I'll be the first to admit that today's RfA standards are ridiculous, and I wanted to support this, but the diffs brought up by Aboideau and Cryptic and lack of more recent vandal-fighting activity to compare them with raise concern that the candidate might not understand how we properly deal with vandals here on en.wiki. I would request rollback, as others have suggested, and get some more experience. – [[user:filelakeshoe|filelakeshoe]] ([[user talk:filelakeshoe|t]] / [[special:contributions/filelakeshoe|c]]) [[user:filelakeshoe/kocour|🐱]] 07:04, 21 June 2019 (UTC) |
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#'''Neutral''' - kudos to {{u|Daffy123}} for possessing the bravery to subject themselves to an RFA - that alone, in my view, speaks volumes about their dedication to the project, as does their lengthy tenure. The main reason I am neutral on this RFA is that, as {{u|Reaper Eternal}} alluded to, Daffy123 can achieve their stated aims without the need of the mop. I am not one for strict edit count evaluations on RFAs, but with the acquisition and appropriate use of the aforementioned tools, and then additional experience in admin areas as {{u|Usernamekiran}} suggested, I would fully be willing to support this candidate in the future as an admin - I am somewhat leaning suppose anyway. [[User:Stormy clouds|Stormy clouds]] ([[User talk:Stormy clouds|talk]]) 11:27, 21 June 2019 (UTC) |
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Voice your opinion on this candidate (talk page) (19/40/7); Scheduled to end 15:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Nomination
Daffy123 (talk · contribs) – Hi. I've editing Wikipedia since 2010 and I see that I've made about 2200 edits ever since joining. As you can see from my editing I mostly edit bios of politicians ranging from small typos to getting rid of vandalism. The best part about editing Wikipedia for me is uploading photos of obscure politicians from Flickr etc and try to improve pages that aren't really taken care of that often. I've participated in the 2011 Wikimania in Haifa though I readily admit I hardly socialize with users online. After almost a decade editing Wikipedia and uploading about 400 photos (a lot of which are still on the header of many politicians' bio pages) and thoroughly enjoying editing, I've decided to nominate myself. I'm open to any questions you may have. --Daffy123 (talk) 15:57, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I accept my own nomination haha. --Daffy123 (talk) 16:00, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:
- 1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
- A: Well I intend to focus on two areas 1) blocking vandals and 2) moving pages to a desired title. What I learned after a few years of editing Wikipedia is that there are so many vandals who take advantage of the open web, and that gets harder to fix for pages that people don't look after that often, which happens to be pages that I try to edit and upload images to.
- 2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
- A: I would say uploading images. I admit when I first joined Wikipedia, I had a hard time understanding copyright rules (partly because I was a high school student when I first started editing Wikipedia) and my photos got deleted often. But now that I've spent 9 years editing and uploading images here, I would say I know the nitty-gritty of what counts as copyright violation and what counts as a genuine free photo. My recent favourite would be uploading Attorney General Edward Levi's current photo. Edward Levi was the only Attorney General who had a fair use photo but luckily I've found a good PD-USGov from the Ford Library and was very happy to upload it. Some other of my proudest photos are photos of two French Prime Ministers whom I've managed to get from the French National Assembly despite not being able to speak French at all!
- 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
- A: I wouldn't say recently, but yes I did have some issues regarding former Congressman Joe Barton's page though I think it was more about the difference of opinions rather than vandalism and I was glad that users who were looking after that page agreed with my opinion in the Talk Page and decided to get rid of some info that I personally believed were irrelevant. Apart from that I don't really had much of an issue.
You may ask optional questions below. There is a limit of two questions per editor. Multi-part questions disguised as one question, with the intention of evading the limit, are disallowed. Follow-up questions relevant to questions you have already asked are allowed.
- Additional question from TonyBallioni
- 4. Hi Daffy123, thank's for running. Your RfA has a little less experience than we'd normally expect. If you run into situations you are not familiar with as an admin, how would you react?
- A: @TonyBallioni:Thanks for your question. Well I do understand I don't have as much experience as you'd normally expect from a admin. I do want to say I'm a quick learner though so if I have problems with I haven't experienced before I'll definitely look into Wikipedia admin page though I think I will probably ask other admins for advice (which I do occasionally if I have problems with uploading, file renaming etc).
- Additional question from Nosebagbear
- 5. Hi @Daffy123: - why not request Rollback and Page Mover which would massively enhance and enable you to do the two areas you requested, without requiring the higher experience level associated with being an Admin? Nosebagbear (talk) 21:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- A: @Nosebagbear: Well good thing is that one of the users actually granted me a permission to Rollback which I am very grateful for. Judging by the number of votes as well as my personal expectation that I wouldn't be confirmed as an admin in my first try, I'll definitely try to make use of this new authority. Thanks a lot for the advice!
- Additional question from Reyk
- 6. What, in your opinion, is the most important of Wikipedia's policies and why?
- A: @Reyk: I'd say based on my experience, civility would be one. As you can see from the comments below, I did not occasionally blow my cool while dealing with vandalism and I do often witness editing wars and vandalism while trying to edit even the dullest page possible. Content-wise I think following copyright rules (especially for photos) is an important policy because if you have non-free photos going around Wikipedia often, then people will start to lose belief in whether this is a free encyclopedia.
- Additional question from Dolotta
- 7. What area or areas of the English Wikipedia do you find yourself to be the weakest?
- A: @Dolotta: Well I do have a relatively narrow focus as one of the comments suggest so I can't really speak for many pages but based on my experience biographies of foreign politicians (specifically Japanese and English) tends to be fairly weak. Most Japanese politicians' articles tend to be stubs and aren't updated often. I actually saw one page that said he was the incumbent--turned out he lost his last election in 2005!
- Additional questions from Prometheus720
- 8. There is precedence for admin accounts being compromised by others, and that can be very bad for Wikipedia. Can you guarantee to the community that you follow (and/or will follow) account security practices to keep your admin tools safe? These would include (but may not be limited to) the general account security practices as well as account security for admins? Please do not feel you have to give personal information to answer this question--that would be counter-productive.
- A: @Prometheus720:I can guarantee that I will follow the security practices and inquire other admins or users about those if I do not feel I have the right answer.
- 9. Do you plan on or foresee yourself taking on substantially different or new tasks and/or roles in the community after getting these tools?
- A: Well I know this isn't really the best answer, but actually I envision myself as being a fairly standard administrator focusing on rooting out vandalism, moving pages copyright issues etc. Although judging by the numbers of votes I don't think I will be an admin anytime soon, I am still glad I was granted the power to rollback and I am more than happy about that.
- Additional question from Pharaoh of the Wizards
- 10. As "required to disclose" can you please state whether you have ever edited for pay or any other form of compensation
- A: @Pharaoh of the Wizards: I have not edited for pay or any other form of compensation.
- Additional question from Graeme Bartlett
- 11. Apart from blocking, what other administrative actions might be used to deal with vandalism?
- A: @Graeme Bartlett: This is a hard question, and something I've actually thinking for some time now. I think in practice it is quite hard to distinguish between an actual vandal and person who had the best intentions but didn't do their due diligence. I did see some people who I personally thought made some innocent mistakes quite often but were nevertheless banned after make the same mistakes over and over and sometimes they even become vandals as a result. With regards to vandals who you can recognize first time, there is little point in trying to take the 5-step warning-blocking procedure so in those cases it might be just better to simplify it to a three step strategy (warning-blocking-admin) though this obviously requires more discussion within the wider Wikipedia community.
- Additional question from Ivanvector
- 12. I see that of your 14 file uploads, 7 have been deleted. 3 of those seem to be technical deletions (file available on Commons, or otherwise), but the rest seem to have been deleted as a result of being non-free files failing the non-free content criteria. In particular I see these two discussions: [1], [2], which were discussions about files you uploaded with either inaccurate licensing information, or claiming that the files qualified for non-free use based on an incorrect reading of the relevant guideline. In one case, this resulted in Wikipedia hosting a copyright violation for nearly a decade. I realize that both of these discussions related to content you created nearly ten years ago, so I'm wondering now if you can comment on your understanding of non-free content, specifically when can it be used and when is it inappropriate?
- A: @Ivanvector: Well in my defense I always had a hard time trying to grasp PD-Italy because that regulation of that copyright always seemed to be a bit haphazard to say the least (some photos are allowed in the Commons under PD-Italy while some are regulated under fair use in English Wikipedia. I do try to focus these days on photos that you can easily verify its validity easily (US government photos, Flickr etc) but honestly I will have to look more into PD-Italy and try to prevent that from happening again. Thanks for the question though.
- Additional question from Narutolovehinata5
- 13. Some editors, including myself, have raised concerns about some of your user talk page edits: in particular, this edit where you told an IP that if they reverted you, you'd block them (this was when you didn't have the mop). In addition, the attitude expressed at User talk:Cheeriogummer is very concerning; regardless of the account being blocked indefinitely for disruption, this sounded very WP:BITEy. What were the circumstances that led to expressions left there, and as an admin, how will you address the reservations raised regarding your civility?
- A: @Narutolovehinata5: I do understand that those should raise concerns and in retrospect I think I should have been forthright about this from the start. In my lousy defense I'd say I got a bit carried away especially because I personally found distasteful (both from left and right) being so happy about someone who lost an election. (background info: Ben Gummer, the subject of the article lost his seat in the British House of Commons in the 2017 election and I suspect the user was vandalizing the page because of that). All I can say is that I apologize unreservedly for that action or any action that I did with regards to vandals or any user about that. I think how I dealt with another user with regards to Joe Barton's page should act as a compass to any kind of such activity in the future (though in the case of Joe Barton's page, I don't think the user in question was a vandal but just had wrong ideas about what to put in the header).
- Additional question from Non-monic
- 14. I noticed you applied to become an Online Ambassador way back in August 2011 which was unsuccessful without gaining any support. I also notice that you have had many user talk page edits which have been inappropriate, as pointed out above, and that despite making over 2,000 edits you have only edited 1000 pages since your first in 2010, which is barely 100 per year. Whilst I know of people who say their lack of edits is due to a slow start, you have only 12 edits in the past week, and less than one per day in the past month. Whilst I know only counting edits can be rude and direct, personally I feel like you haven't dedicated enough time/energy to Wikipedia to become an admin. I apologise for the directness, but I feel this is required to get a good answer that can change my mind, so I ask you - can you prove me wrong? I look forward to a good answer.
- A: @Non-monic: Thanks for the question and no I think this is a fair question and something I would asked myself if I were in your position. I do realize I don't make a lot of edits relative to other admins or would-be admins though I guess in my defense I am still a student (I am studying at a law school trying to be qualified as a lawyer) so I mostly edit stuff before I go to sleep or right between classes etc. I know this might not be the best answer but given the number of votes I've got and didn't get (both of which I am grateful for because I think all of the criticism below are valid) I don't think I will be an admin this time but thankfully now that one of the admins gave me the rollback power I will try to contribute more and prevent vandalism and hopefully apply to be an admin later on. I also applied to be a photo review which I think could be closer to what I want to do and contribute to. Thanks for the question though, really appreciate it.
- Additional questions from andrybak
- 15. In your answer to Reyk you described your opinion on two of the Five pillars of Wikipedia—free content and civility. What is your undertanding of motivations for the second pillar—neutral point of view?
- 16. What was the last time you saw an application of WP:IAR?
Discussion
- Links for Daffy123: Daffy123 (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
- Edit summary usage for Daffy123 can be found here.
- Edit stats on talk page. --qedk (t 桜 c) 21:46, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review his contributions before commenting.
Support
- Support to be honest, I see nothing here that makes me expect that they would abuse the administrative toolset. Yes, page mover can do some of what they want, but
+sysop
is much better, and I have no doubt that they will be able to spot basic vandals and the like. They seem like a good faith content editor who is likely to stay focused on content, who has been here a while, and where the tools could help them. This is less edit count than we expect by recent standards, but on the whole, I think giving Daffy123 the tools would likely be a net positive for Wikipedia. I'm fine supporting candidates with lower edit counts who have long term devotion to the project and who are unlikely to get into drama or abuse the tools. We need more candidates like this, so I'm willing to support. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:59, 20 June 2019 (UTC) - I'd add two things to what Tony says. First, the candidate operates in narrow areas and infrequently. He can be expected to do the same with admin tools, making the absence of broader and deeper experience wikipolitically problematic but substantively irrelevant. Second, the candidate is clearly, on my review, not a dickhead. --Mkativerata (talk) 21:00, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support I'm guessing this will get many WP:NOTNOW opposes, but I think you make good edits and coming back in a half year or so, with 4000 or so more edits, will for sure get you the bit if this doesn't. 💵Money💵emoji💵💸 21:03, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support CLCStudent (talk) 21:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support. We keep saying we need more admins, and finally someone steps up and says they want to do the job. Let's show that RFA doesn't have to be a bloodbath. Ticks the usual boxes, i.e. Not a dick, has a clue, has contributed content, and been around long enough. Assuming nothing comes out of the closet I'm happy to follow Tony and endorse the candidate. — Amakuru (talk) 21:11, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support. TonyBallioni and Amakuru put it well. Adminship shouldn't be a big deal. Mackensen (talk) 21:17, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- I really don't see any reason why not. — 🦊 22:09, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Sure. Has a use for the tools and being an admin isn't a big deal. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 22:26, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support as I see no reason why not to. They are evidently responsible enough to use the tools without breaking anything with them. I agree with TonyBallioni on this. Vermont (talk) 23:09, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support per Amakuru. Banedon (talk) 23:44, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support per Amakuru. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- No apparent drama and you applied to be an online ambassador, a program I'd never heard of – so you know something about Wikipedia that I didn't. You're obviously not a hat collector, but, what the hey, why not just boldly wear your
badge anyway. – wbm1058 (talk) 01:15, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- wbm1058, shame on you. I was an ambassador too! Support. Drmies (talk) 01:37, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Wbm1058 and Drmies: Please note that Daffy's ambassador application was closed as unsuccessful. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, I thought that program went inactive, but with a little pathfinding, I eventually found its current home – So, just kidding, don't wear the badge without their approval! wbm1058 (talk) 02:05, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Wbm1058 and Drmies: Please note that Daffy's ambassador application was closed as unsuccessful. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Moral support. You appear to be an excellent long term contributor, thank you. As an administrator, you should have some proven experience discussing consensus in difficult cases. As an administrator, you will be expected to act with authority in these things. I suggest that you get more experience at things like Wikipedia:Requests for comment & Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:53, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support - agree with TonyBallioni. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 01:59, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support This may not gain any traction, but my own personal seraches dont convince me we'll have an abuser or rogue on our hands, and we know where their talk page is, we cand esysop if necessary. Also Tony and Drmies are two opinions I respect and agree with. Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 04:39, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Per Tony, and Amakuru. I passed my own RFA with less edits. SQLQuery me! 04:59, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support net positive Kees08 (Talk) 05:03, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support - Adminship must be no big deal, and that means prpmoting people like this candidate. Tazerdadog (talk) 11:20, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Oppose
- Sorry, I don't think you've got the experience. 2,281 edits is low for a potential admin and you don't seem to have much experience of the types of activities admins usually do. For example you say you're interested in countervandalism work, but you've never reported anybody to WP:AIV and you don't seem to have given any vandals any warnings, ever. Someone active in countervandalism would have a substantial record in both. Countervandalism is one of the easiest admin jobs but there don't seem to be any others you've had significant experience with either. Hut 8.5 21:13, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose You said that countervandalism would be one of your main focuses, but the last time I can find you reverting "vandalism" is July 1, 2017 on Bim Afolami, where you revert, and then without any prior warning, leave this bitey comment, threatening to block the IP. That was a year and a half ago, granted, but I can't find any more recent diffs of you actually reverting and warning correctly. aboideautalk 21:19, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose a good user, but more experience with the policy processes should be required in my opinion. Recommend reapply in 6 months after an increase in activity, with some focus on deletion, vandal fighting, or policy areas. Antrocent (♫♬) 21:27, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose quite simply ridiculous. Eric Corbett 21:37, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose The lack of Wikipedia-space contributions is certainly a negative. I'd expect some edits to AIV or the like for someone interested in "blocking vandals". However, I can't look past the lack of edit-summaries on mainspace edits. I'd expect higher than 15% edit summaries (and less than 25% in recent months). power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to be here. I firmly believe in NOBIGDEAL, but there just isn't enough experience here, even when only considering the areas the candidate wishes to work in. I wish the candidate all the best, and I hope to see them run again. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:42, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Even I have made over 1000 edits to Wikipedia in the past two weeks alone (I am brand new), but that's irrelevant, because most were on talk pages and I was just debating things with people. Edit count may not mean that much about the person, but that low of an edit count is definitely not a good sign for a potential administrator. Bill Williams (talk) 22:04, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. Insufficient experience and awareness. Softlavender (talk) 22:26, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per Vanamonde93, Aboideau, and Hut 8.5. Supporters are in no way convincing. Jusdafax (talk) 22:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Edit count is too low and I don't think the candidate has enough experience either. VibeScepter (talk) (contributions) 22:54, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't understand the supporters saying adminship is "no big deal". If that's the case, why not give every account the same tools? No, it requires experience and knowledge. I agree with the other comments that this user can apply for the page mover and other tools, which would bolster a future admin application. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:58, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Well, it isn't: most of the technical aspects of it can easily be undone and aren't particularly sensitive. The real question is if the individual would harm the community, and if anything a sane editor with 2200 contributions over a decade who focuses mainly on mainspace and hasn't expressed any desire to get involved with the high drama areas is a pretty low-risk editor to give the tools too. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:06, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I'm really sorry, but with no participation in AIV, UAA, RFPP, AFD, with no evidence of patrolling or giving user's appropriate warnings, etc.... You're a good and steady if infrequent content editor, and that's greatly appreciated, but there's nothing in your history to help me judge how you'd use the tools, whether you have an understanding of when to do so, how your interactions with other users would go. You've used a user's talk page only 5 times since 2018, and article talk only 7 times. You essentially don't interact with other editors in the main. The lack of edit notes and the talk page message Aboideau found from 2017 (But still within the user's last 10-15 user talk messages...) are also red flags. -- ferret (talk) 23:24, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- With so few user talk posts, I looked a little more, what's with this grave dancing? -- ferret (talk) 01:21, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per power~enwiki - I'm fairly indifferent as to edit count, but the lack of summaries demonstrates something I don't like about the candidate's communication skills. Even if it's behind-the-scenes anti-vandal work, warnings should still be left and summaries should still be used. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 23:27, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose This is actually a weak oppose. I think the candidate looks fine, however, a greater track record than ~2200 edits, no AfD !votes, and no B-classed or better articles would be helpful in making the most thorough evaluation. None of these things prove an editor would make a good admin, they just allow a broad range of touchpoints to evaluate their approach to WP. If the candidate returned in another 6-9 months and could just slightly improve on these three areas I would be likely to support. I hope s/he does! Chetsford (talk) 23:27, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - Whilst we are indeed low on RFA candidates lately I certainly don't support handing out the tools to any Tom, Dick and Harry who comes along...., Like everyone above's said all's you need is Rollback and Pagemover, Given they've done absolutely nothing in terms of adminny work here I'm struggling to understand why they need the tools (IMHO reverting vandals and moving pages isn't really a reason). –Davey2010Talk 23:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - To be clear, I don't by any means think that the nom is a bad editor who's not to be trusted, but 500 edits in the last 13 months and 2k edits total isn't a lot of experience. The user's contributions show that they very rarely add edit summaries, and when they do, they tend to be very short. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't trust someone as inexperienced as myself with a mop, so I definitely have a hard time giving the mop to someone with less than half the experience that I have. I wish you the best of luck in getting the to333111ols you need (such as rollback and pagemover/filemover) to contribute to the best of your ability, and I look forward to seeing you further develop your editing history, but I don't think it's the best decision to give you adminship at this time. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 23:59, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Concerns with limited experience -FASTILY 00:08, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose due to insufficient edits and an unpersuasive demonstration of a "need" for the tools. signed, Rosguill talk 00:08, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- oppose per all of the above--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:48, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose No need for the tools. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:15, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose at this time. I know edit count isn't everything, but considering your lack of contributions to outside mainspace, I just don't see why you need the admin tools at this time. Right now, what I'd suggest to you if you really want to be an admin, is to help out in areas that don't require the mop but where non-mop permissions (such as rollback) are helpful, such as anti-vandalism efforts and new page patrol. Once you gain enough experience in that and build a name for yourself, then perhaps then you can come back to RfA. In addition, while I personally don't think rarely using edit summaries is by itself problematic, the lack of doing so doesn't help build confidence for someone who wants to be an admin, so I'd suggest you use edit summaries whenever possible. Finally, I have some concerns about some of your previous user talk page comments, particularly this one where you warned an IP that you would block them despite not being an admin. Please explain what happened here if you wish to allay the concerns raised by other editors. (Disclosure: I was referred to this discussion on Discord) Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:25, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose nominee doesn't seem to like leaving edit summaries (94% of the time, as in about 123 summaries for 2000+ edits). Edit sumarries are, even if short and curt, a core aspect of basic editing. I'd suggest leaving edit summaries from here on in, raking up a few thousand more edits, taking some of the good advice above, and then reapplying in a few years.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 01:45, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I oppose because I oppose. Oppose pretty much per Sportsfan. Abequinn14 (talk) 01:51, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- I can find no evidence that this spot-on advice was followed, either in the specific or general case, and it's directly related to the stated reason for wanting admin tools. —Cryptic 02:00, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Sachinthonakkara (talk) 02:09, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose 2200 edits is too low for RfA back in 2006-2008, let alone now. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per all. Sorry, man, but maybe try about six months from now with more experience. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 04:16, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose as per above. Not enough experience. User has no need for admin tools at this time. Contribute a little more to helping with countervandalism and some more edits in a couple months! QueerFilmNerdtalk 05:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. Your low edit count doesn't bother me and I don't think RfAs should fail on that. However, lack of AfD votes, as well as no apparent experience in working to solve disputes, report vandals, etc. tips me into the oppose column. I do hope you receive the rollback and filemover rights. Hydromania (talk) 05:25, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose. I agree that there is a lack of mop & bucket experience, thought I would love to see you apply for more advanced tools and continue your good work on the project. Sasquatch t|c 06:03, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Insufficient experience. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:32, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - My primary concern is that our admins have a close understanding of what it is to be an editor, especially a content-contributing one, so that when situations come up, they can make judgments with that understanding in mind. While I agree with Tony that I see nothing that tells me this candidiate would abuse the tools, I also see nothing in their background which points to a specific understanding of the problems of a contributing editor. For that reason, I would agree with the suggestion that the candidate withdraw this RFA, request the rollbacker and page mover rights, contribute more to articlespace, then come back to RfA in six months or so with a higher edit count and better distribution, and - hopefully - an feeling for what editors sometimes go through. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:40, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - too inexperienced, sorry. GiantSnowman 07:24, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - sorry, but that number of edits in nine years of editing is really low and doesn't suggest an all-round appreciation of admin duties. I'd be glad to reconsider when you've got another 10,000 edits under your belt. Deb (talk) 07:46, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose — candidate should spend some significant time with lesser tools first to show their competence. —andrybak (talk) 07:48, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - Looking through the edits, I feel like 2200 is too low and hasn't really had the time to focus on Wikipedia when you also have law school. I would probably suggest to go a little bit in the other side of it before going again. HawkAussie (talk) 08:32, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose; not on experience (or otherwise), but communication is fundamental, and when one has a very low talk-page count and a number of them demonstrate body or grave dancing behaviour and combined with a tenure of a decade and the most recent examples of said behaviour are only ~twelve months back...niet.@Daffy123:, I suggest withdrawing this, applying for other permissions and demonstrating your skills with them over the next year. I do once do not doubt your good intentions or your technical ability, so another year of good editing and...shall we say, a more nuanced approach to how you interact with noobs, will find me firmly in the "support" column. ——SerialNumber54129 08:38, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose – Edit count and summaries don't really bother me that much, but having never moved a page, never reported anyone at AIV, and with little evidence I can see of experience identifying, reverting, and warning vandals, I have to say NOTYET. Based on this, candidate may or may not need tools at all until they get their feet a little wetter, but I'll echo the advice that rollbacker might be a better place to start off. Hope to support the next time around! —Rutebega (talk) 08:58, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - Little to no experience, plus concerns about childish gravedancing. ~Swarm~ {sting} 09:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Too soon. I'd suggest following Serial Number 54129's advice given above. - SchroCat (talk) 09:26, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Neutral
- It looks to me like you're actually looking for
'rollback'
and'filemover'
user rights, both of which you likely qualify for (certainly for rollback). Reaper Eternal (talk) 21:19, 20 June 2019 (UTC) - I'd lean to oppose, as I don't feel like they would use the tools, and page mover and rollbacker would be better places to start. However, as a community, we can't simply ask for more admins and turn down those that do apply simply because they don't have the exact features we want. The fact the editor doesn't edit much actually suggests that they wouldn't need to know too much policy, as it seems they wouldn't get too involved with that. Does feel a little too immature for the toolset, but clearly a nice person. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- This RfA reminded me Pvmoutside's RfA. I do not want to oppose you, but I couldnt find anything to base my support on either. Yes, it is obvious you are good person and a good editor acting in good faith, yes you might have a clue; maybe you are not a dick. But WP:V aka verifiability is the bedrock policy/guideline of wikipedia. And there is not much to see how you would communicate with other editors under different circumstances.Even though it was an year ago, your "bitey comment" is sort of off putting (diff in oppose #2). You are editing since a decade, and you have 40-ish edits on user-talk pages. Given you want to primarily work against vandalism, i dont really need to see experience in other areas or contributions to AIV. But an admin who wants to work in anti-vandal field should have patience, and good communication skills among few other things. If you are blocking a lot of vandals/accounts, then you would also see a few requests for unblock. I have almost nothing to gauge your would be communication.Your tenure is a huge plus side. And the support votes are also very affirming. Like the neutral #1, and some oppose above; should this RfA fail, I suggest you should get "rollback", and "file mover" permissions, do some anti-vandalism work with giving warnings to user, lurk a little around WP:TEAHOUSE, and once in a week scroll through WP:ANI; this will increase your experience a lot (activity not required at these venues, but simply keep an eye there). After doing that for 6-7 months, you may run for the RfA again. Regards, —usernamekiran(talk) 22:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral. Leaning oppose per ferret, but I don't want to be in the oppose camp just yet. I'd rather see this as precedent for more users to run and appreciate Daffy putting themselves out there! –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 02:36, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Eh. Fails my RfA criteria, but I got to commend this editor for shamelessly putting themselves out there. Steel1943 (talk) 03:36, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral, moved from oppose. I'll be the first to admit that today's RfA standards are ridiculous, and I wanted to support this, but the diffs brought up by Aboideau and Cryptic and lack of more recent vandal-fighting activity to compare them with raise concern that the candidate might not understand how we properly deal with vandals here on en.wiki. I would request rollback, as others have suggested, and get some more experience. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 07:04, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral - kudos to Daffy123 for possessing the bravery to subject themselves to an RFA - that alone, in my view, speaks volumes about their dedication to the project, as does their lengthy tenure. The main reason I am neutral on this RFA is that, as Reaper Eternal alluded to, Daffy123 can achieve their stated aims without the need of the mop. I am not one for strict edit count evaluations on RFAs, but with the acquisition and appropriate use of the aforementioned tools, and then additional experience in admin areas as Usernamekiran suggested, I would fully be willing to support this candidate in the future as an admin - I am somewhat leaning suppose anyway. Stormy clouds (talk) 11:27, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
General comments
- Suggest we close this Rfa per WP:SNOW. We are currently well below 50%, and highly unlikely to hit that mark. Thanks. Jusdafax (talk) 02:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- While I agree that it seems to be unlikely that the RfA will pass, I suggest not closing this until Daffy has been given the chance to respond to the questions asked by the editors. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:22, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- All the questions have now been answered, but I think we should at least give 24 hours from the nomination's start. starship.paint (talk) 08:12, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think this is a WP:SNOW case. Enough people have supported. Let it run. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 08:38, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- It's a possible snow case - I suggest giving it another 13 hours (midnight UTC) and deciding then Nosebagbear (talk) 09:55, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think this is a WP:SNOW case. Enough people have supported. Let it run. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 08:38, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- All the questions have now been answered, but I think we should at least give 24 hours from the nomination's start. starship.paint (talk) 08:12, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- While I agree that it seems to be unlikely that the RfA will pass, I suggest not closing this until Daffy has been given the chance to respond to the questions asked by the editors. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:22, 21 June 2019 (UTC)