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'''The Heymann Standard''' has two meanings. |
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The Heymann Standard is named after the [[David Heymann]] article, which was first proposed for deletion, then taken to AfD very shortly after it was created. The author ([[User:Johntex|Johntex]]), helped by others, did a great deal of work on the article while the debate was taking place and the article was both vastly improved and overwhelmingly kept. When first nominated, the page looked like this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Heymann&oldid=45954332]. Three days later, it had become this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Heymann&oldid=46204115]. It has now been listed as a [[Wikipedia:Good article|Good Article]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Heymann&oldid=50520594]. |
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It is invoked during deletion discussions to point out that an article has been significantly improved since it was nominated for deletion, as the original [[David Heymann (architect)|David Heymann]] article was; in such cases an editor might say "Keep per WP:HEY" |
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| ⚫ | It can be used to describe the amount of work that an editor feels a page needs to change their [[Wikipedia:Glossary#!vote|!vote]] (not-vote) from "delete" or "neutral" to "keep" in an [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|Articles for deletion]] debate. For example: If a !voting editor deems a nominated subject to be non-notable, or believes it could be notable but does not see sufficient evidence in the article "as is", the !voting editor could comment that "This page would need a Heymann Standard (or WP:HEY for short) improvement to get my !vote." |
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== Origin == |
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The Heymann Standard is named after the David Heymann article, which was first proposed for deletion, then [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Heymann|taken to AfD]] very shortly after it was created. The author and others did a great deal of work on the article while the debate was taking place and the article was both vastly improved and overwhelmingly kept. When first nominated, the page was an unsourced, two-sentence stub that looked like {{oldid|David Heymann|45954332|this}}. Three days later, it had fourteen independent sources and had become {{oldid|David Heymann|46204115|this}}. A short time later it was listed as a [[Wikipedia:Good article|Good article]].<ref>{{diff|Talk:David Heymann|50514734|49328072|talk page diff}} of review; {{oldid|David Heymann|50520594|article}} as it appeared during that GA sweep.</ref> Following a [[WP:Good article reassessment|Good article reassessment]] three years later, the article was delisted to C-class<ref>{{diff|Talk:David Heymann|prev|302967341|talk page diff}} of reassessment, {{oldid|David Heymann|301802007|article}} as it appeared during that reassessment.</ref> but this does not affect the principles discussed here. |
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== Why invoke == |
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==See also== |
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*[[WP:Deletion to Quality Award]] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Military_strike&oldid=497727768 This edit summary], from which came "Kerrrzappp". |
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== References == |
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{{Wikipedia essays}} |
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[[Category:Wikipedia essays about deletion]] |
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Latest revision as of 11:26, 14 June 2024
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The Heymann Standard has two meanings.
It is invoked during deletion discussions to point out that an article has been significantly improved since it was nominated for deletion, as the original David Heymann article was; in such cases an editor might say "Keep per WP:HEY"
It can be used to describe the amount of work that an editor feels a page needs to change their !vote (not-vote) from "delete" or "neutral" to "keep" in an Articles for deletion debate. For example: If a !voting editor deems a nominated subject to be non-notable, or believes it could be notable but does not see sufficient evidence in the article "as is", the !voting editor could comment that "This page would need a Heymann Standard (or WP:HEY for short) improvement to get my !vote."
Origin
[edit]The Heymann Standard is named after the David Heymann article, which was first proposed for deletion, then taken to AfD very shortly after it was created. The author and others did a great deal of work on the article while the debate was taking place and the article was both vastly improved and overwhelmingly kept. When first nominated, the page was an unsourced, two-sentence stub that looked like this. Three days later, it had fourteen independent sources and had become this. A short time later it was listed as a Good article.[1] Following a Good article reassessment three years later, the article was delisted to C-class[2] but this does not affect the principles discussed here.
Why invoke
[edit]Debates involving possibly non-notable subjects or articles lacking verification sometimes see a number of "keep", "weak keep" or "keep and expand" type !votes, but little willingness to actually improve the article or demonstrate its notability. Invoking the "Heymann Standard" is an expression of:
- Desire to see quality content on Wikipedia
- Belief in a reasonable standard of notability
- Demand for compliance with WP:Verifiability, an official policy
- Respect for contributors willing to improve articles of questioned notability
See also
[edit]- WP:Deletion to Quality Award
- This edit summary, from which came "Kerrrzappp".
References
[edit]- ^ talk page diff of review; article as it appeared during that GA sweep.
- ^ talk page diff of reassessment, article as it appeared during that reassessment.