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AfD of Norwegian diaspora

I have nominated the article Norwegian diaspora for deletion - the article is a list that synthesises various sources that use the notion of "norwegian" in incompatible ways either as citizen or as a person claiming to have Norwegian ancestors - this creates a false number of how many Norwegians are living outside of Norway and an image of an actual Diasporic community that is not supported by any sources. Please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norwegian diaspora.·Maunus·ƛ· 16:13, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Whaling in Norway

Deleted sevral poorly cited claims in the opposition section. Whale song, whale-poo that fight global warming and cells in whales that match human cells. Within these claims there were also sevral other claims about barbarism and opposition to whaling from counties that were not quoted from anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truls86 (talk • contribs) 02:38, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Ferking?

Hi there guys. I've been trying to verify the material we have at Ferking and Ferkingstad, and I'd appreciate any help I can get. Those two articles, and some related information in Augvald and Karmøy, were all added in 2007 by an editor who doesn't seem to have communicated their sources very well. The only sources listed in the two articles are either not reliable or not verifiable, Google web search results only show unreliable sources or copies of Wikipedia, and neither Google Scholar nor Google Books seem to know anything about either the person or the village. You would expect the village, at least, to have some web footprint even if not in English. Basically, does anyone have any sources to verify that the subjects of these articles actually existed? I am far from an expert on Norwegian topics and do not want to jump right to calling them hoaxes, but I can't find anything verifiable at all. Any assistance is appreciated. — Gavia immer (talk) 23:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

By clicking on the coordinates in the article, I was able to find Ferkingstad in Google Maps so the village is no certainly verifiable, though not necessarily notable. I also found a few more web pages about the legendary king in Norwegian, but none provide anything beyond the references already added to the article. I guess better sources for this must be found offline, not online. Ters (talk) 05:54, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Naming discussion at Norwegian diaspora

There is an ongoing discussion at Talk:Norwegian diaspora#Renaming about a proposal to rename the entry. I'm notifying this Wikiproject since the entry is a part of it.Griswaldo (talk) 18:33, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Scandinavian diaspora

For your information, Scandinavian diaspora has been nominated for deletion. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 04:32, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

"Was established as a municipality"

Currently, the majority of articles on places in Norway that also happen to be a municipality contain the following text in the lead section: "[place name] was established as a municipality on 1 January 1838 (see formannskapsdistrikt)". I find this to be a bit misleading, as that date refers to the creation of the system of municipalities (previously, Norway was instead administratively divided into parishes). However, the current text can make it sound like the settlements in question were established in 1838.

For example, the article Tønsberg says in the second paragraph of the lead: "The city of Tønsberg was established as a municipality on 1 January 1838". This makes it sound like Tønsberg was founded in 1838, when it has in fact been a city since the Viking ages, with full trading rights as a city for many hundred years prior to 1838.

I believe that this information, related to a technicality about the organisation of administrative districts of Norway, should not be so prominent in the lead section of every article on a municipality. Instead, this fact should be explained on the Municipalities of Norway page, or alternatively, mentioned in a paragraph about the area's history, instead of in the lead. Theis101 (talk) 11:08, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I think I mostly agree, but for municipalities it is nice to mention how far back it is dated. While Tønsberg as a "city" dates back to the time of the vikings, the administrative unit which is the basis for the modern municipality is probably not as old. There is also at least one case where the municipality is older than its namesake and administrative center, through a split and remerging. Maybe one could change the text to read "The modern municipality was formed on the basis of [place name] parish (or whatever) on 1 January 1838"? But for Tønsberg, 871 should be mentioned at least briefly before this. Ters (talk) 15:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

TFD:Former possessions of Norway

Template:Former possessions of Norway is being considered for deletion. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus. Ben MacDui 12:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Help needed please

I need help over at no:Mal:Flagg/Storbritannia please. The flags for the civil and naval ensigns need to be added. I've tried my best to code these, but it's not working for me. Template:Country data United Kingdom will show what I am trying to achieve. Suggest alternative names of civil and naval are used. I've already coded the no:FLK «Maudie» page with the flag, but it is showing as the Union Flag and not the Red Ensign. Thanks in advance, Mjroots (talk) 10:44, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps try no:Wikipedia:Torget? You can write in English there. --Eisfbnore ^talk 17:48, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Discrepancies between English and Norwegian articles

Prisoners at Bagram: Does wiki-Norwegian have any articles about the individuals? (Maybe wiki-English has got it all wrong?)

I ask the question here, because of fear of being blocked if I ask the question on the Norwegian website (A number of contributors to the norwegian Bagram-article have been blocked after adding external links.) If there are any such articles, then I would like to extract any info there, and improve our articles (here).

--Corner benchmark (talk) 11:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Prisoners, as of 2010

(Norwegian search)/Ali,S; (Norwegian search)/Albkri,A; (Norwegian search)/Dawood ,M; (Norwegian search)/Dilshad,A; (Norwegian search)/Farooq,G; (Norwegian search)/Fezzani ,M; (Norwegian search)/Gul,L; (Norwegian search)/Gul,M; (Norwegian search)/Gulab,S; (Norwegian search)/Jalatzai,S; (Norwegian search)/Jalatzai,S; (Norwegian search)/Jan,A; (Norwegian search)/Kadir,K; (Norwegian search)/Karim,F; (Norwegian search)/Khail,H; (Norwegian search)/Khan,A; (Norwegian search)/Khan,P; (Norwegian search)/al-Maqaleh,F; (Norwegian search)/Mohammed,G; (Norwegian search)/al-Najar,R; (Norwegian search)/Qabil; Qalam (Bagram detainee)
(Norwegian search)/Rohullah ;

Corner benchmark (talk) 11:36, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Current prisoners in USA (after being transferred from Bagram-prison)

(Norwegian search)/Azar,R;

Corner benchmark (talk) 13:36, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Status in question

(Norwegian search)/Ismatullah —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corner benchmark (talk • contribs) 16:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Current Pule-charkhi prisoners (after being transferred from Guantanamo)

(Norwegian search)/Nasir,A

--Corner benchmark (talk) 15:39, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Current Guantanamo-prisoners (after being transferred from Bagram-prison)

(Norwegian search)/Ahmed,F; (Norwegian search)/al-Bihani,T (Norwegian search)/al-Darbi,A (Norwegian search)/Fazil,M (Norwegian search)/Haidel,M (Norwegian search)/Hakim,A (Norwegian search)/Hassan,E (Norwegian search)/al-Hilal,A (Norwegian search)/al-Kandari,F
(Norwegian search)/Omar Khadr (Norwegian search)/al-Khalaqi,A (Norwegian search)/Obaydullah (Norwegian search)/Ourgy,A (Norwegian search)/Paracha,S (Norwegian search)/al-Quwari,M

--Corner benchmark (talk) 11:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Prisoners who died at Bagram

(Norwegian search)/Dilawar
(Comment: Norwegian wikipedia does show a drawing depicting Dilawar, in the article, no:Bagram Theater Internment Facility#Overgrep og tortur. )
(Norwegian search)/Habibullah

--Corner benchmark (talk) 11:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Escapees

(Norwegian search)/al-Faruq,O; (Norwegian search)/al-Kahtani,M (Norwegian search)/al-Libi,A;

--Corner benchmark (talk) 17:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Former prisoners

Prisoners who died at Guantanamo (after being transferred from Bagram-prison)

(Norwegian search)/Gul,A —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corner benchmark (talk • contribs) 15:28, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Former Guantanamo-prisoners (after being transferred from Bagram-prison)

(Norwegian search)/Ahmad,O.; (Norwegian search)/al-Asmr,K.; (Norwegian search)/al-Azmi,S; (Norwegian search)/Begg,M; (Norwegian search)/Belmar,R; (Norwegian search)/Boucetta,F; (Norwegian search)/Deghayes,O; (Norwegian search)/Dergoul,T; (Norwegian search)/Esmhatulla,Q; (Norwegian search)/Ghaffar,A; (Norwegian search)/Ghalib,H; (Norwegian search)/al-Haf,R; (Norwegian search)/Hamad,A; (Norwegian search)/al-Harbi,G; (Norwegian search)/Iqbal,M; (Norwegian search)/Jabbarov,O; (Norwegian search)/Janko,A; (Norwegian search)/Jawad,M; (Norwegian search)/Khamsan,K; (Norwegian search)/Jawad,M; (Norwegian search)/Khan,A; (Norwegian search)/Khan,K; (Norwegian search)/Khan,Sh.; (Norwegian search)/Khan,Sw.; (Norwegian search)/Khantumani,A; (Norwegian search)/Khowlan,A; (Norwegian search)/Lagha,L; (Norwegian search)/Mizouz,M (Norwegian search)/Mohammad,M; (Norwegian search)/Mohammed,T; (Norwegian search)/Muhebullah; (Norwegian search)/Naqeebyllah,S; (Norwegian search)/bin-Naseer,M; (Norwegian search)/Parkhudin; —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corner benchmark (talk • contribs) 16:39, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

--Corner benchmark (talk) 14:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Other former prisoners

(Norwegian search)/Ahmad,J; (Norwegian search)/Amanullah; (Norwegian search)/Amir,S; (Norwegian search)/Azzimuddin; (Norwegian search)/Bashmilah,M; (Norwegian search)/Baz,J; (Norwegian search)/Hamidullah; (Norwegian search)/Hayatullah; (Norwegian search)/Jabar,A; (Norwegian search)/Jangvi,G;
(Deletion debate)/Binyam Mohamed

(Comment:The Norwegian article was deleted after administrators closed the deletion-debate after 2 days and 2 hours. Maybe we are wrong for having the article, IMIO.)

Article in Norwegian/W.Muttawakil

Corner benchmark (talk) 10:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Notability (here) of Norwegian articles?

Claes Olsson

Claes Olsson/Claes Olsson . Is this bomb victim more notable than any other ISAF-soldier who was killed by a bomb? (No point in any of us writing an article, if it will be deleted here, anyway?) Corner benchmark (talk) 10:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hi! The Norwegian Wikipedia is a encyclopedia of ... well, other standards than this one, and includes many strange articles. This one wasn't exactly strange, the person was in the news. But it was deleted here for lack of notability, and will remain so. We can't do anything about the thresholds of inclusion over at another wikipedia. Geschichte (talk) 18:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

The (short) answer to the question, is that a previous article about him here, did not display notability. Good info.--Corner benchmark (talk) 14:24, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles without interwiki from Norwegian (interwiki to Norwegian, is in place)

• Papercutting --Corner benchmark (talk) 13:36, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
• I do not see a reason to post this here. Some of us (not me) edit no:wiki, but this is the en:wiki and we don't need tips, tasks etc. on how to improve the Norwegian Wikipedia. Geschichte (talk) 17:59, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your reply. Correct interwiki from and to English, is of benifit to wiki-English. (And if I wanted to know Geschichte's editing habits, then I would have asked on his/her user page.) But that is easier to understand, when one removes the "short-sighted hat" and dons a "hat for moments of reflection(of the variety that is not mostly associated with rays of energy.)"--Corner benchmark (talk) 14:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
    • Stop spamming us with working lists meant for another Wikipedia. Geschichte (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
      • I agree with Geschichte. I would much appreciate if these lists were put somewhere else (like a dedicated page) given the frequent editing that is done on them. A notice could direct those interested to that place. Ters (talk) 16:24, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Chapel of ease

• Chapel of ease--Corner benchmark (talk) 14:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)