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== Need help gathering information on two images == |
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*[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Image:AmanoTifa.jpg This for Tifa] |
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*[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Kefka2.jpg This for Kefka] |
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I found these and need some information behind them. Do they appear in any artbooks, or have any notes that could be cited in respective articles for the characters?--[[User:Kung Fu Man|Kung Fu Man]] ([[User talk:Kung Fu Man|talk]]) 07:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Disappointed== |
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What happened? There are rambling plot summaries and de-featured articles everywhere, and not all of it is because the "perfect sources only, please" police are on the prowl. Are there any FF project regulars left? Is there a gameplan? Or are there simply not enough sources to justify even trying anymore? Is a reboot of all non-essential articles necessary? — '''[[User:Deckiller|Deckill]][[User talk:Deckiller|er]]''' 18:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm pretty active, though working to get the Advent Files, as to imrove [[Last Order: Final Fantasy VII]] and [[Characters of Final Fantasy VII]]. After that, it's improving [[Vincent Valentine]] and [[Zack Fair]]. And, according to his page, [[User:The Prince of Darkness]] is working to get [[Final Fantasy VII Advent Children]], [[Sephiroth (Final Fantasy)]], and [[Hitoshi Sakimoto]] to GA. And it's not only us; there is a handful of people who may not appear to be active, but are monitoring some articles and improving others. Right now, it's just that many people are in college/school and have other things to worry about. During the summer, the project becomes more active again. As for articles be delisted as GAs and FAs, could you point me to some? Many follow guidelines set in place awhile ago, which is why they were being delisted--they aren't up to par with today's quality. However, maybe I could improve some...[[User:WhiteArcticWolf|WhiteArcticWolf]] ([[User talk:WhiteArcticWolf|talk]]) 21:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:As WhiteArcticWolf said, I'm currently working on some articles for GA, also including [[Final Fantasy (video game)]], which I believe is ready. I won't be able to contribute very actively because I'm in my last year of high school and I kinda need to take things seriously. However, I plan on working extensively on the games that I've played (FFVIII and FFIX) to make sure they are of decent quality and worthy of FA/GA status; FFVII and FFX have been taken care of. Other than WhiteArcticWolf, PresN, and me, members of the project don't seem to be active anymore. BTW, I'm not actually a member, I only like editing FF articles. [[User:The Prince of Darkness|The Prince]] ([[User talk:The Prince of Darkness|talk]]) 22:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::The FFVIII topic is pretty much fine except for that supposedly questionable source, but I'm sure FFIX's subarticles need work. FFVIII was the benchmark topic for works on fiction for 2+ years, and I'm sure it still is up there. — '''[[User:Deckiller|Deckill]][[User talk:Deckiller|er]]''' 03:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm poking at [[Tifa Lockhart]] and considering a Kefka article if I can find more sources. I haven't gone full swing on either though because I've already got three unrelated articles up for GAN I'm waiting to hear about.--[[User:Kung Fu Man|Kung Fu Man]] ([[User talk:Kung Fu Man|talk]]) 03:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm alive (barely)- school was kicking my ass (last year of college), and I've been working all winter break, but I'm trying to gear up to take Discography of FF7 to FAC again. I've got [[OverClocked ReMix]] at GAN right now, which I'm hoping will get me in the mood to take Music of Final Fantasy to GA completing the GoodTopic. If I'm still going at that point, I'll move to DiscofFF12, which should have some more "reliable" sources, as I'm going to have to fight tooth and nail to get RPGFan allowed at FAC. --'''[[User:PresN|<span style="color:green">Pres</span>]][[User talk:PresN|<span style="color:blue">N</span>]]''' 15:40, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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===Section break: proposal/ideas=== |
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Always good to see at least a few people involved. I don't know if you guys recognize me (many of you are fairly new), but feel free to take a look at my [[User:Deckiller|userpage]] for my history with the project. In the past (and it feels like a lifetime ago), I specialized in three areas: fiction articles, admin duties, and copy-editing. I think there is still potential for a major activity surge; if we start now, we can repair the foundation upon which the influx of summer editors will be able to build. Foundations start from the bottom, and in our case, that would be the general sub-articles. If we can get the borderline notable articles in the project to Good Article status (or merge until we can attain that status), then we can ride that momentum into repairing the major articles — and by that point, the summer editors will be here to assist, and teams can begin working on bringing the main articles back to their prime. |
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What do I mean by "borderline articles"? I'm referring mostly to articles that require the "[[WP:FICT|three-pronged test]]" for notability: the elements within the fictional works, such as the character, setting, and gameplay articles ''not yet of decent quality''. Most of the merges were done in 2006 and 2007; everything has been organized and outlined, leaving us with the task of improving the quality of the material. |
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I think the team aspect remains the best way of editing. For instance, PresN is excellent with everything related to the audio aspects, while my specialty is overall tweaking/copy-editing/trimming/managing. I'm sure others are into finding sources or articulating the gameplay aspects (always a weakness of mine). |
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Combining these strengths allows us to divide the work into manageable units; weaknesses are covered, leading to articles that have few flaws. But I'm rambling; these are ships that can sail when the time comes. Could that time be sooner rather than later? The winds could very well be favorable enough. — '''[[User:Deckiller|Deckill]][[User talk:Deckiller|er]]''' 04:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== [[Discography of the Final Fantasy VII series]] FAC == |
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Please come by and make comments! -> [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Discography of the Final Fantasy VII series|here]]. |
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:Please? --'''[[User:PresN|<span style="color:green">Pres</span>]][[User talk:PresN|<span style="color:blue">N</span>]]''' 05:34, 19 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::I'm a little busy ATM, but I'll get around to it ASAP. [[User:The Prince of Darkness|The Prince]] ([[User talk:The Prince of Darkness|talk]]) 09:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== January 2009 Roll Call == |
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*[[User:Yellow Mage|Yellow Mage]] ([[User talk:Yellow Mage|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment was added at 09:42, 26 January 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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*--'''[[User:PresN|<span style="color:green">Pres</span>]][[User talk:PresN|<span style="color:blue">N</span>]]''' 17:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''<font color="red">[[User:Sjones23|Greg]]</font> <font color="blue">[[User talk:Sjones23|Jones]]</font> <font color="yellow">[[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|II]]</font>''' 01:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC) |
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*[[User:Kung Fu Man|Kung Fu Man]] ([[User talk:Kung Fu Man|talk]]) 01:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC) |
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*[[User:Ost316|Ost]] ([[User talk:Ost316|talk]]) 14:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC) |
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*[[User:Hibana|Hibana]] Here. 19:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== [[Rinoa Heartilly]] delisted as GA, downgraded to C == |
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I know this won't be an incredibly popular move, but after a discussion [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Protecting redirects of merged articles|here]], I have to agree with A Man in Black and Megata Sanshiro: this isn't a GA quality article. The primary bulk is the plot section, while reception is skeletal and development feels lacking, especially in comparison to other character articles that are at GA. |
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Should point out too this has an effect readily on the FFVIII Featured Topic.--[[User:Kung Fu Man|Kung Fu Man]] ([[User talk:Kung Fu Man|talk]]) 16:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Yeah, the FFVIII topic is as of today under a 3 month retention. If by 28 March Rinoa Heartilly is not back to GA, then the topic can be nominated for removal - [[User:Rst20xx|rst20xx]] ([[User talk:Rst20xx|talk]]) 19:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::I haven't read the whole discussion as it's too long for me, but I agree: the article is not of Good Article quality. I'd suggest merging it to the [[Characters of Final Fantasy VIII|characters article]] if no more real-world content can be found and inserted in the article. [[User:The Prince of Darkness|The Prince]] ([[User talk:The Prince of Darkness|talk]]) 20:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== OK, what does the [[Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles]] article need for GA? == |
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I'm currently on a CC binge, and raring to help out! Tell me what needs to be done and I'll do it! Help is appreciated of course! (I tried putting this at the CC talk page, but haven't had an answer yet.) |
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Also, I know it's off-topic, but I might as well ask: does anyone know where to find White Silk? I'm trying to make the White Misanga, but can't find any. Apparently it can be found in Rebena Te Ra, but I've scoured the place and found none. Again, help would be appreciated. [[User:Yellow Mage|Yellow Mage]] ([[User talk:Yellow Mage|talk]]) 12:09, 29 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:It's nice to see someone eager to help out:) For FFCC, try cutting down the in-universe stuff. Really, it just needs a plot section and character list, with the option of a setting section. The connectivity section needs to be read through and disposed of any biased statement. The development section needs major work, and should deffinately be expanded on. Expand a little bit on the reception and legacy section, or as much as you can. The sequel games won't need as much; they are covered in their own articles. Maybe just release dates, and don't put them all in one sentence. I understand that the manga may be a little difficult to find information on, but really just see if you can find release dates and a plot. Also, expand a bit on the lede; ledes don't need to be referenced, because everything written should be covered in the article. I hope this helps! Oh, and you can always get a [[Wikipedia:Peer review|peer review]] to help you. I'd like to help, but at this time I'm pretty busy with other articles and school. [[User:WhiteArcticWolf|WhiteArcticWolf]] ([[User talk:WhiteArcticWolf|talk]]) 21:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:In addition to the above, the audio section needs some reworking, but don't worry about that- I'm currently working on the FFCC discography article (in addition to the DoFF7 FAC, feel free to comment at it!), so once that gets submitted to GA, I'll update this article's audio section accordingly. --'''[[User:PresN|<span style="color:green">Pres</span>]][[User talk:PresN|<span style="color:blue">N</span>]]''' 22:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== February 2009 Roll Call == |
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* '''<font color="red">[[User:Sjones23|Greg]]</font> <font color="blue">[[User talk:Sjones23|Jones]]</font> <font color="yellow">[[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|II]]</font>''' 15:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* [[User:WhiteArcticWolf|WhiteArcticWolf]] ([[User talk:WhiteArcticWolf|talk]]) 17:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* '''[[User:PresN|<span style="color:green">Pres</span>]][[User talk:PresN|<span style="color:blue">N</span>]]''' 20:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* [[User:Kung Fu Man|Kung Fu Man]] ([[User talk:Kung Fu Man|talk]]) 21:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* [[User:Ost316|Ost]] ([[User talk:Ost316|talk]]) 13:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* [[User:Yellow Mage|Yellow Mage]] ([[User talk:Yellow Mage|talk]]) 08:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Umrguy42|<font color="red">umrguy</font>]][[User talk:Umrguy42|<font color="maroon">42</font>]]</font> 21:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== [[Discography of the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles series]] GAN == |
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[[Discography of the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles series]] is now up for GAN! Just letting people know so that the project feels more like things are happening. --'''[[User:PresN|<span style="color:green">Pres</span>]][[User talk:PresN|<span style="color:blue">N</span>]]''' 20:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Now a GA! --'''[[User:PresN|<span style="color:green">Pres</span>]][[User talk:PresN|<span style="color:blue">N</span>]]''' 20:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== [[Final Fantasy (video game)]] GAN == |
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[[User:Gary King|Gary King]] has gone and nominated [[Final Fantasy (video game)]] for GA- come on out and make sure it's ready to come back into the light! --'''[[User:PresN|<span style="color:green">Pres</span>]][[User talk:PresN|<span style="color:blue">N</span>]]''' 05:14, 24 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Coordinators' working group == |
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Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Coordinators' working group|WikiProject coordinators' working group]], an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators. |
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All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — <small>Delievered by <font color="green">[[User:ShepBot|'''§hepBot''']]</font>''' <small>(<font color="red">[[User talk:ShepBot|Disable]]</font>)'''</small> on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== March 2009 Roll Call == |
== March 2009 Roll Call == |
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* [[User:Amazing Steve|<font color="green">'''Amazing'''</font><font color="Black"> '''Steve'''</font>]] 00:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC) |
* [[User:Amazing Steve|<font color="green">'''Amazing'''</font><font color="Black"> '''Steve'''</font>]] 00:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Final Fantasy IV FA status == |
== Final Fantasy IV FA status == |
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Revision as of 21:27, 12 March 2009
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March 2009 Roll Call
- Yellow Mage (talk)
- WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 11:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ost (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC).
- PresN 17:28, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- umrguy42 17:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Amazing Steve 00:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sjones23 (talk) 21:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Final Fantasy IV FA status
FYI- Final Fantasy IV is in need of some maintenance or it could very easily be taken to FAR. The article falls under 4 cleanup categories, some of which have been dated for a while.
- Articles with unsourced statements (Aug 2008)
- Wikipedia articles with plot summary needing attention (Oct 2008)
- Articles to be expanded (Jan 2009)
- Articles with dead external links (Mar 2009)
At the very least, fixing the plot summary and dead links should buy it some more time, and are probably the least daunting of the list. (Guyinblack25 talk 21:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
- Dead link now resolved. --PresN 23:04, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Final Fantasy FAR notification
I have nominated Final Fantasy for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)