Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of parliamentary speakers in Africa in 1965

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The result was delete all. Kurykh (talk) 00:51, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of parliamentary speakers in Africa in 1965

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These articles are arbitrary lists which are definitely indiscriminate collections of information contravening WP:WHIM. A test discussion for one such list in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of parliamentary speakers in the Americas in 1984 resulted in unanimous consensus to delete.

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Let the discussion commence! Amisom (talk) 10:55, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy pinging of editor who contributed to the previous discussion: @David Tornheim:. Amisom (talk) 10:59, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping. 12:06, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Courtesy pinging of editor who contributed to the previous discussion: @Bearcat:. Amisom (talk) 11:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Since so many articles are about to go, I think we should give Mbakkel2 a chance to defend them before we DELETE. Amisom Could you put a second notice about this WP:AfD similar to the one that is on Mbakkel2's talk page here: User_talk:Mbakkel2#Nomination_of_List_of_parliamentary_speakers_in_Africa_in_1965_for_deletion? I think one additional notice with the list of articles would be sufficient. I do think that editor deserves a proper notice. I would do it, but I don't have time at the moment to figure out the best language. --David Tornheim (talk) 12:06, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Amisom (talk) 12:07, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I guess Amisom has to delete those lists too List_of_state_leaders_in_2015 etc. I wrote the above-mentioned articles to highlight the existence of parliamentary speakers. --Mbakkel2 (talk) 16:48, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete all. As I pointed out in the first discussion, the speaker of a parliament or congress is certainly a noteworthy position within the political structure of each country — but unlike national heads of state and government, it's not a role that involves crossnational collaboration with the speakers of other countries' legislatures. Justin Trudeau has to meet with and work with Theresa May and Angela Merkel and Donald Trump and François Hollande on a fairly regular basis — but Geoff Regan does not have to meet with or work with Paul Ryan or John Bercow or Norbert Lammert. So a cross-national list of the world's legislative speakers is not a thing people need or are looking for, because there's no substantive need to directly compare the incumbencies across national borders. The fact that the nation-specific lists are categorized together in Category:Chairs of lower houses is as much cross-referencing as the topics actually require, because the existence of the positions is all the cross-referencing that the positions have in reality. Bearcat (talk) 16:36, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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