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The result was delete. Sam Walton (talk) 00:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable junior college football player and NFL "intern". Subject does not satisfy the specific notability guideline for college athletes per WP:NCOLLATH or pro football players per WP:NGRIDIRON, and there is no evidence to suggest subject has sufficient significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable, secondary sources to satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:40, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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73.157.188.195 (talk) 19:49, 19 January 2016 (UTC)Subject in fact has held numerous positions beyond the Intern level in Pro Football. Subject has held the General Manager position as well as Offensive Coordinator of a Minor league Pro sports franchise in several Arena leagues. In addition the intern positions held in the NFL were the position subject entered into later progressing to position coaching jobs. This history has been cited and updated on the article. Subject is in-fact a reputable sports figure with many news articles in his history as well as a massive social media following. This article should be retained on wikipedia as there are many sports figures on the same level who have standing articles at this time.[reply]

  • Comment generally, assistant coaches are not inherently notable either per reasons outlined at WP:CFBASST essay. The few news sources provided only have passing mention of the subject or are transactional reviews. I do have to question them as a legitimate news source as the Google News Search only turns up one article (Bluefield Daily Telegraph) on the subject. Is there an explanation why the others should be considered as legitimate third party news sources and is the coverage enough to be considered notable? I don't doubt the subject is a reputable sports figure. I don't think Wikipedia cares if the subject has a "massive social media following" because that's subjective and irrelevant. However, I am curious about the alleged "many news articles in his history" because THAT is what can point to notability. Where are these "many news articles" for us to review?--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:50, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

73.157.188.195 (talk) 03:14, 20 January 2016 (UTC)Here are Two of many examples of assistant coaches articles on wikipedia Example: [1] Example: [2] Even article on Minor league Indoor/Arena Players Example: [3] A general Search for subject by name or by name plus football yields three to four pages per google. Published articles from Major Outlets such as WEAR 3 news, Daily Journal of NE Mississippi with over 400,000 Subscribers and readers Example: [4] Midland Reporter- Telegram [5] Example: [6] Major news outlets Subject is the focal Topic. Example: [7] Example: (Not Focal point) [8] Example: 97.5 The Game Bay Area Radio http://www.957thegame.com/ [9] Example: WNSR Nashville Radio http://www.wnsr.com/ [10] Thank You Sir I hope this helps.73.157.188.195 (talk) 03:14, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • That's some good research. However, just because other stuff exists it does not mean that this article should. I can see strong arguments for deletion of the articles that you presented as examples. I'm not going to nominate them myself because I don't have time at the moment, but I would not be surprised if they do get nominated. I think we might be looking at the possibility of trying another wiki. I respect the efforts you're putting forward here, and another person may come along to see it another way. For example, the djournal.com article is simply a passing mention article much like a transaction--useful, but not what would pass for a notability gauge in today's landscape. Were this 1910, when print costs were more expensive that might mean more--but today, it's really reinforcing that the individual is an "intern" which in my view doesn't pass muster. The oursportscentral.com article also shows that he's not in a significant position at a not-very-significant minor league indoor football league. If anything, the two articles seem to confirm the lack of notability rather than provide it. I'd love to one day meet this coach as it seems he does good work with players, I'm just not seeing the level of notability required for inclusion in this particular encyclopedia.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Further comment if we do not get a few others to participate in this discussion in time to close, I suggest it be relisted for getting further comments. There are others better at research than I am and I hope they can jump in to provide insight I may be missing. There's no harm in this case to extend the discussion time and make sure we arrive at the decision that is best for Wikipedia.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:42, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 14:12, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Software article of unclear notability, lacking independent references, and tagged for multiple issues since 2013. A search turned up no significant WP:RS coverage. Article was created by an SPA as possibly promotional.Dialectric (talk) 22:34, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 14:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable author. Magog the Ogre (tc) 22:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:11, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Biographical spam. Notability not asserted. Bueller 007 (talk) 22:03, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep as this all seems obvious and the current sourcing seems convincing (NAC). SwisterTwister talk 05:53, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Online retailer recently founded. Fails WP:CORPDEPTH. Written by a likely COI editor. Was CSD'd by another editor, but reluctantly declined (see history) so here we are at AfD. Not seeing anything encyclopedic about this topic. Legacypac (talk) 20:15, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Snow Keep comments ignore that this was essentially spam, CSD'd and an Admin nearly deleted it. The article has been renamed, the title turned into a DAB and the contents extensively rewritten so it does not even resemble what was AfD'd. At this point the nomination should be procedurally closed because all the changes make it impossible to evaluate. Call it a withdrawal. Legacypac (talk) 14:50, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Legacypac, assuming I'm the admin in question an Admin nearly deleted it is demonstrably untrue by virtue of the fact that this AFD is even taking place. I'd appreciate you not telling lies about me in furtherance of your obsessive vendetta against every page User:Neelix has ever touched. ‑ Iridescent 15:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your kind thanks for doing a lot of the grunt work scoring through tens of thousands of redirects required to clean up the Neelix mess (an editor who was the subject of wide community outrage, a redirect topic ban, and who many people believe only retains the ability to edit due to the Super Mario Effect.) shows how many of his redirects are now red The only connection he had to this title was he created the title as a redirect, something I only noticed when I sent this to AfD and twinkle automatically notified him. He actually has nothing to do with this article which was written over his redirect years later. If I misinterpreted this comment I am truly sorry. " Iridescent (talk | contribs)‎ . . (6,771 bytes) (-156)‎ . . (Much as it pains me, I have to decline this, although feel free to AFD it. It's (just about) adequately sourced, and not quite over the line into spam, so I can't in good faith speedy it." Legacypac (talk) 15:28, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sam Walton (talk) 00:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Not enough information to justify inclusion S Philbrick(Talk) 19:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I couldn't establish that this is WP:NOTABLE or even worth a merge. Tagged for notability for 8 years, no consensus at AfD 3 years ago; hopefully we can now get it resolved. Boleyn (talk) 18:29, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I couldn't establish that they meet WP:NBAND or WP:GNG Boleyn (talk) 18:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 18:27, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet WP:NBAND or WP:GNG Boleyn (talk) 18:15, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep (non-admin closure). Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:20, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Essentially promotionalism. I can't figure out how to separate it out, so if it notable, it needs rewriting from the beginning. DGG ( talk ) 17:30, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I searched, found news coverage of the Foundation. Added a couple of articles to the page. There is more, stuff like this one: [1] about the Israeli Red Cross giving the Milsteins a humanitarian award. Frankly puzzled by the existence of this AFD on a sizable, source-able, charitable foundation.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:56, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be kept. It has a lot of legitimate sources, and a quick google reveals many more articles and news coverage about this group. [1] A.T.J.J. Smith (talk)

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The result was redirect to En Masse Entertainment#Pocket Platoons. (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 00:35, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable video game failing to pass WP:GNG with no multiple reliable independent in-depth sources, such as WP:VG/RS. Of the two sources in the article, one is by the developer, the other is an announcement in a non-reliable source. Cannot locate any in-depth sources besides catalogue entries and announcements (single reliable non-trivial announcement [2]), in other words, no in-depth material such as reviews. Does not appear like we could write an article with the current materials available. Metacritic is absent even of unreliable reviews. (The developer does not have an article, where the game's entry could be merged otherwise and it is listed in publisher's article.) —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:54, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Added more information to the Pocket Platoons page, citing two independent reviews of the game. Baraqorn (talk) 00:56, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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These sources are unreliable by every measure. I wouldn't even call the second source a review. czar 05:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. North America1000 18:24, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Unreleased non-notable video game failing to pass WP:GNG with multiple reliable secondary in-depth sources, such as WP:VG/RS. Cannot locate any sources that are reliable. The current sources in the article do not appear to be reliable or in-depth. The majority are very short and none are in-depth reviews as the game is not released. A lot of information appears to come directly from developer (Kickstarter, interview, announcements) so not independent. Appears to be WP:TOOSOON until release and coverage of reliable sources. Probably suitable to be userfied until such time.The author appear to be closely connected with the game (which is not in itself an issue, but the article does go into excessive gameplay details). —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:42, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Non notable NGO. -- Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:26, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 00:36, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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She doesn't appear to have been that notable as an actress. OscarL 14:00, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I believe the actress passes WP:NACTOR for prominent roles in many notable stageplays that were major productions on Broadway. The article has been given references to RS.Atlantic306 (talk) 14:41, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sam Walton (talk) 00:08, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG, effectively unsourced as the source given is just a single passing mention The Banner talk 13:53, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 13:49, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 18:21, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Crystal ball, fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 13:46, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, utterly non-notable event. The article is an attempt to create notability for the pageant, not a reflection of existing notability (I would have nominated it for speedy deletion if it hadn't been here at AfD...). Thomas.W talk 13:57, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. North America1000 18:21, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Promo, Crystal ball, fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 13:46, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. It's a recreation of an article that was speedied as A7 and G11 in September 2015, and is IMHO no more notable now than it was then (I would have nominated it for speedy deletion if it hadn't been here at AfD...). Thomas.W talk 13:55, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sam Walton (talk) 00:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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POVFORK, NPOV, OR, etc. Issues on talk page. Zoupan 13:17, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Amazingly, no outside input at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Albanian_nationalist_sites.--Zoupan 20:45, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:43, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:ARTIST. The sources just don't stack up to notability for an artist. Jahaza (talk) 15:59, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Theroadislong did a good job in improving the article. The article has many sources from online magazines, press releases, newspapers. Levan Songulashvili is one of the most well-known living artist of Georgia, he got prize by President of Georgia, had received several major awards... On December 31, 2015, he was nominated for "The Best Artist of The Year" next to Niko Pirosmani, which was great XX century artist. In 2015, Levan's artwork was sold at Sotheby's auction house in New York City at Take Home A Nude art show. The artist's painting was exhibited with world famous artists pieces, including work by Eric Fischl, Will Cotton, Arthur Elgort, Patrick Demarchelier, Yoko Ono and Kiki Smith. He has exhibitions in and out of his country... Levan is a member of Artists Union of Georgia, there are many interviews with the artist in a lots of broadcasting companies and you can find various articles about him in popular magazines and newspapers nationwide (in Georgian, Russian and English languages). In 2010, there was an article about him in Georgia's Public Encyclopedia... There are lots of papers in Georgian and Russian languages, as well as in English. It is important for Georgian society to have an article about the artist in English language Wikipedia and it is already a strange fact that we are doubting on it. You can delete it but remember, it will be a big mistake. I expect more from you before you make a final decision." GeorgianArtCenter (talk) 21:26, 8 January 2016 (UTC) GeorgianArtCenter (talk) 21:27, 8 January 2016 (UTC)GeorgianArtCenter[reply]
You should cite the Georgian Public Encyclopedia article as a source in the article -if indeed that the national encyclopedia of Georgia mentioned him in 2010 then he is clearly notable. You should also give some citations to the georgian and russian newspaper articles (preferably with a translation of the title into English). if you can provide this that will demonstrate that he is notable since notability does not require English language sources even though that is most comfortable for most editors.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 22:07, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment If what GeorgianArtCenter says is true and there is an article about him in a major Georgian encyclopedia - then I would say that Songulashvili passes the general notability criteria. Same is true if Georgian news coverage establishes that he has received significant critical attention in Georgia.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 22:10, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • ·maunus, I totally agree with you. I can also provide the letter of appreciation by President of Georgia and many other documentations, certified by translator. The Public Encyclopedia is a book which is not online but I have PDF document of the certified translation in English. How can I provide those files? Sincerely, GeorgianArtCenter (talk) 22:34, 8 January 2016 (UTC)(talk)[reply]
You dont need to provide them, you can just cite them as you would cite any other off-line book. And you dont need certified translations either. The letter from the president is not a useful source since it is not a published work. If a news article mentions the letter from the president, then that would also support notability.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 05:45, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You have indeed added a good number of sources, several of which seem decidedly to be "non-trivial" and "independent of the topic". Some of them do appear to be low quality non-reliable sources, and many of them are not formatted in a way that allows the reader to discern if the source is reliable or not, or if it is even about the topic of the article, but that is not important at this point since per policy we have to assume good faith until we have a good reason to assume otherwise.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:11, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Could you explain how a person with an article in the Georgian national encyclopedia fails GNG?·maunus · snunɐɯ· 05:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maunus, the problem is that it's not at all clear that it actually exists. We haven't been given a citation with actual publication data. Neither does the name of the article as it's been relayed suggest that it actually is about the man in question. In addition, as far as I can tell, there is no 2010 general edition of the Georgian Encylopedia see here, rather there was a general volume, "100 GEORGIANS EBROAD (2010)." (presumably that's a typo for "abroad" and since Songulashvili didn't even go abroad until 2014 there's no reason he would've been included. --Jahaza (talk) 14:53, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to remind you that we have a policy called AGF. This means that your doubts about whether the source exists are not grounds for anything other than requesting the publication data. Regardless, a person who is considered one of the most significant 100 expatriates of their nation clearly passes the GNG.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:02, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You have missed an important part of the substance of the comment. Yes, "a person who is considered one of the most significant 100 expatriates of their nation clearly passes the GNG." However since Songulashvili didn't go abroad until 2014, he can't have been "one of the most significant 100 expatriates" in 2010 when the Encyclopedia volume was published.--Jahaza (talk) 15:49, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The page has been scanned and uploaded by GAC to demonstrate that Songulashvili is indeed found in the encyclopedia. GAC has already been required to go to greater lengths than policy requires to demonstrate the notability and the veracity of their sources.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 16:12, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There seems to be significant WP:COI concerns here. What is GeorgianArtCenter's relation to the topic? The username violates the username policy (WP:ISU) and the pictures the user uploaded to commons are being considered for deletion there for various copyright and COI reasons[3] and the user's statements there suggest some kind of relationship with the subject.--Jahaza (talk) 14:53, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you substantiate the COI accusations or strike them. Also you are forgetting some fundamental policies your self including AGF, and BITE. Someone editing from a National Art center about artists from their country is not haing a COI, but is providing a public service that Wikipedia needs - namely experts providing information about areas where the average wikipedian is not knowledgeable. If a new user violates the username policy the correctthing to do is to politely notify them about the policy so that they can request a name change. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:07, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
sed contra WP:AOBF--Jahaza (talk) 15:14, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Your bad faith is well substantiated in your own edit above - where without any evidence or motivation accuse another editor of fabricating sources and of editing with an undisclosed COI. That is the definition of assuming bad faith.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:29, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I already linked to evidence, the deletion discussion on Commons for the many works of the artist that the user uploaded as "own work". I phrased it neutrally by referring generically to "COI concerns" rather than directly accusing the user of having a conflict of interest. Please read the evidence provided.--Jahaza (talk) 15:47, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion discussions at commons are not evidence of any of the concerns you have expressed - but simply attest to GAC being a new user who does not yet understand technical policies such as our copyright policies. The polite phrasing of an accusation has no bearing on the bad faith behind it. As for your concerns of fabricating sources GAC has now scanned and uploaded the page, and described what kind of source it is (it is more like an National Annuary than an encyclopedia, but regardlss it still attests to the independent notablity of whoever is featured in it).·maunus · snunɐɯ· 16:09, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment:·maunus, Here is one more, Lela Zurebiani's interview with Levan Songulashvili. The interview starts with the words: "This man has been a hot topic in Georgia for several weeks now"; "has already become a mini-celebrity of sorts"; "Young Georgian Maestro"... Is not it enough to prove the notability criteria?

Georgian Journal: "the first English-speaking news channel in Georgia, provided by the Palitra Media House - the largest independent publishing house in the country. With our brand new internet television site we are proud to serve both English-speaking audiences in Georgia and abroad with breaking stories and with features relevant to the English speaking community." - http://www.georgianjournal.ge/about-us.html P.S. You can delete the photo of the magazine as well, I just wanted to show the truth. Wikipedia needs an article about only notability artists, here it is and it does not matter I would create it or other, it would be created sooner or later. Sorry that I do not know all Wiki rules but for sure I know that the artist meets all the notability criteria.

"Sakhelebi" is annual Encyclopedia (since 2002), aimed at the President, government representatives, Georgian and foreign businessmen, politicians, other high officials and those working in the area of culture, as well as at any reader. Volume I comprises key information about Georgia, being interesting for the public, and about country's political, cultural and public life, which is of vital importance. Volume II is dedicated to "business-faces". Check out short information about the presentation of the encyclopedia: http://1tv.ge/en/news/view/11122.html If you have other concerns let me know, but there is no doubts that he is a notable artist in Georgia.


Thanks for your attention! - TornikeSani (talk) 17:16, 11 January 2016 (UTC)TornikeSani·[reply]

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Keep as passes notability guidelines and has an international scope and recognition. Sad that the editors improving the article are being hassled here. Legacypac (talk) 16:04, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep passes WP:ARTIST. Also, per the notable sources and the above keep's! --MurderByDeletionism"bang!" 21:33, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.artpeoplegallery.com/levan-songulashvili/ Mr. Songulashvili was selected for the Summer 2016 edition of Studio Visit Magazine as well. It is time to make your final decision. TornikeSani (talk) 18:27, 22 January 2016 (UTC) TornikeSani[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't appear to meet our notability guidelines. There's no significant coverage in reliable sources: note that references provided in the article to BBC News and The Guardian do not actually mention Jasmin. It gets some mentions in 'how-to' articles and in promotional articles on the web, but no significant coverage in anything I think we'd consider a reliable source. Previously {{prod}}ed by Ohnoitsjamie, endorsed by me, and contested by 190.246.131.119. UkPaolo/talk 11:34, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep (non-admin closure). Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject of this article is a moderately recent pejorative buzzword that is only used by the UK Conservative party and allied newspapers to refer to poorer housing estates. Its contents can be divided into a) material already existing in the Housing estate article, b) non-neutral political opinion, c) unreferenced assertions.


Inasmuch, it meets the following "Reasons for deletion" set out in WP:Deletion_policy:

6. Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and articles that are themselves hoaxes (but not articles describing notable hoaxes)

7. Articles whose subjects fail to meet the relevant notability guideline

14. Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia Ordinary Person (talk) 10:55, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: The article could do with some more sources, but notability can be established from the Scholar hits alone - which also establish that the term has been used in an academic context since at least 1981. Kolbasz (talk) 13:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NACTOR and probably also as a race car driver. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:38, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 09:23, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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We just started the 2016 ATP World Tour and now someone has created a 2017 World Tour article. Way way way too early for this. I tried a proposed deletion to no avail so now it's a standard deletion nomination. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:16, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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No, it applies to articles too. Why is it "ridiculously early"? When should it be created? One day before it starts? 30 days? 31 days? It meets WP:V with WP:RS to state it's scheduled to happen. At worst it should be redirected to the main ATP article, but as it stands it violates no WP policy, so should not be deleted. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:03, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see that. Let's put it this way... almost every single article for an individual tournament has been deleted by the entire wikipedia community if it's more that 60 days prior to its start....sometimes more than 30 days. Anything more has always been considered way to early "by consensus". Now this isn't a tournament, this is the 2017 ATP tour, but it's a year before it starts. It violates no policy, but it easily violates consensus and should be speedily deleted. I would have no real problem with it being redirected to the ATP article, and then come November recreating it with more pertinent info. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why November? What if it was 31 October? And your claim of "almost every single article for an individual tournament has been deleted by the entire wikipedia community if it's more that 60 days prior to its start" is completly made up. I'm part of "...the entire wikipedia community..." and I recall no such discussion. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:18, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is not made up. Tennis Project has brought these events up many times and they almost always get deleted or redirected till we get much closer to the event. As for your 31 October stuff, you're simply being argumentative. I used 60 days as a pretty good indicator and rule of thumb and of course the time/date is not etched in stone. But a year is way off kilter, and two years is hard to fathom. Look at it like the garbage can law in my city. If you don't bring in the cans by 8pm the day of collection you're breaking city ordinance. But as long as you bring them in by the next day no one cares. Start taking them in 2 or 3 days late on a regular basis you'll get reported and keep doing it and your cans will be confiscated. So certainly there must be flexibility depending on the tournament significance, but I think a year out is much much too early. Fyunck(click) (talk) 11:11, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So what about 61 days? How is that any different from the 60? Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:03, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, I can agree to that. 61 days it is. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to the article about the association. While I hate to suggest deleting articles about upcoming events per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:TOOSOON, I can't find many independent publications talking about this even itself just yet, so I guess this will have to apply here. edtiorEهեইдအီးËეεઈדוארई電子ಇអ៊ី전자ഇī 00:34, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Adding the full content of 2017 ATP World Tour to Association of Tennis Professionals would add too much detail to the latter article. Do you suggest only listing changes in 2017 compared to the 2016 world tour in the ATP article? That could be a good compromise if deletion/redirect is the outcome of this discussion. Gap9551 (talk) 18:27, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I assume it was created now because ATP published the calendar 13 January.[7] They also published the 2018 calendar and the author also created 2018 ATP World Tour. With the full calendars known except the location of a new pre-Wimbledon event and the possibility of changes, the articles have almost as much information now as shortly before the seasons start. Some readers will be interested in the calendars and I don't see good reason to delete them now just to recreate them later. 2015 ATP World Tour was created in February 2014 and already had 1155 views in March.[8] The empty progress columns look silly now but they could be removed without deleting the articles. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS but Category:Scheduled sports events have lots of articles with far less information and some of them have been kept at AfD like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 BWF World Championships, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 World Aquatics Championships, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 World Championships in Athletics. The calendars have useful information that wouldn't fit elsewhere, and the Google search ATP 2017 2018 already finds independent sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:53, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Which is why I also nominated that article for deletion. I still think it's silly to list an empty season a year in advance, and don't get me started on a 2018 season. And while it's true that "some" events don't get deleted, I could easily throw others in like 2016 Wimbledon Championships, 2016 US Open (tennis), and 2016 French Open that have been deleted multiple times. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:04, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep WP:CRYSTAL applies and is met. There must be enough relevant content available, of course, and that is the case here. WP:TOOSOON says: If sources do not exist, it is generally too soon for an article on that topic to be considered. Sources exist, but a lack of independent sources could be a concern for notability, even if the ATP source seems very reliable. That said, Fyunck(click) has a strong point about consensus in WikiProject Tennis about waiting with article creation until shortly before the tournament/tour. I'm not familiar with those discussions and I would like to hear more about the arguments used, and how they compare to WP:CRYSTAL. I vote 'keep' at this time based on the more general guidelines. Gap9551 (talk) 18:20, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Just so I don't err on understanding your pov. If Wimbledon or the Taiwan Open release official dates for future events 5 years out (and we can source it), we can make new encyclopedic articles about them? Because that's all this article is about... The events have all listed their scheduled dates so the ATP has released the full schedule. Other than the fact that those tournaments will exist in the future, there is nothing. No financial commitments, no draws, no player commitments, no round by round schedules, no tickets, etc... Only a date. Even the number of players in the draw is speculation since many events can change that. Also, per the sources, there is no mention that the points distribution will change/be tweaked for those events or Davis Cup, so those charts are not sourced. I think this is bad precedent for an encyclopedia. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Having only a date is insufficient for an article like 2016 Wimbledon Championships, and I agree we'd need the kind of information you mention, otherwise the article would have almost no content. But 2017 ATP World Tour is not about one event, but about the order in which a large number of events are held. It is not only about providing information about each event individually, but also about the relationships between various events, for example, which events are held in the same week, which events are held the week before a Grand Slam, which events are held during the Asian swing, how many weeks are there between the French Open and Wimbledon, etc. In my opinion, that is a large part of the value of this article. Either way, unlike articles for separate events, 2017 ATP World Tour has a lot of content. Not having enough content for each event article individually could even be an argument for making one article combining all of them instead. Gap9551 (talk) 22:49, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok... however a lot of the content is conjecture, not fact. All the release says is the place, event type, the date and the court surface. It says nothing about the draw numbers (which do change), the point distributions (which also change), so that type of inclusion is WP:OR. This should be simply a list. I still disagree with it's inclusion as I find it the same as listing Madison Square Garden's concerts for the next 3 years. And this is a year ahead...2017.... there's also a 2018 article up for deletion. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:58, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Draw information etc. that is not in the source should be removed, I think. Draws usually stay the same from year to year, but as you said, we shouldn't assume that. I like your idea of This should be simply a list. The current table is way too large with all the empty columns, plus the unlinked draw text in the left-most column. We could replace it with a simple table with columns for week number, date, city, event, event level, and surface. Each event row should have only a single line of text (unlike the 5+ lines in the current table), so the whole table wouldn't be very long. In due time, the table can be changed to the normal format (the format that is currently used). Let's wait for more opinions. Gap9551 (talk) 00:32, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. There is no reason ATP season 2017 will not happen, and plenty on info present on it aleady. Naki (talk) 21:15, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course it will happen. So will the 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 seasons. That doesn't mean we make empty frame-work articles for them in January of 2016. I don't think we do have "plenty of info." If people here feel there's enough info to warrant keeping it, that's fine. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:40, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 08:47, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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No references proving notability. Googling "Survival Island! Escape From The Desert Island!" comes up mainly with cheat codes and YouTube videos. Anarchyte 08:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G3, WP:CSD#G4 Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:59, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The article is one of Wikipedia's longest running hoaxes (about 8 years, 11 months). This is a blatant and notable hoax per WP:HOAX. Deletion is mandatory. The article maintains a fictional "The Californias Province" by rearranging material pasted from real articles (Baja California and California) to make the hoax seem real.

The article has been voted for deletion before under earlier titles, for example: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Las Californias Province. The author of the hoax, User:WCCasey and/or sockpuppets, recreated the article with redirects to circumvent the decision. An earlier incarnation of the hoax in the same manner circumvented deletion by creation of two nearly identical articles, then merging them (see Talk:The Californias). Wyeson 08:33, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete The Californias is obviously a hoax. Everyone in California older than eight years old knows that Baja and Alta California were never one country. WCCasey made it up and she and all her Sockpockets should be pemanently blocked for vandalism. This article was already deleted four times before, but WCCasey keeps recreating her hoax in violation of Wikipedia's policy. Castanea dentata (talk) 09:29, 17 January 2016 (UTC) 07:56, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete OK I messed up. I just wanted to leave my mark in a bunch of things on the internet. So I made some things up. Is that so wrong? I didnt't hurt anybody. So, go ahead and delete The Californias and Viceroyalty of New Spain. So what? Now I admitted what I did, don't block me. WCCCasey (talk) 08:25, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep.(non-admin closure) Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:06, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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No indication of notability asserted in the article. Entirely self-referenced. For me, the original title "Bijzonderheden over Japan" gets 89 Google hits. Should be mentioned on the article for the author Isaac Titsingh (as it is already) and nothing more. Bueller 007 (talk) 08:08, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: From what I can see on the publisher's page, Secret Memoirs of the Shoguns looks an annotated version of the same book. However because it is annotated and published through a reputable publisher, I'd say that the annotations could be used as a sign of notability in this situation. We'd need other sources to show notability, though. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:56, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: If someone were to edit the material carefully into the article on Titsingh, this might be fine, but simply deleting it smacks of vandalism. It seems to me that arguing about "notability" for current events or material is sorting wheat from chaff, but historical surviving material is by definition stuff that has been found notable enough to survive. Imaginatorium (talk) 15:08, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Notability is not in doubt. Among contemporary reviews, all of them substantial:
It was reviewed in 1822 by The Gentleman's Magazine (pp. 430-432).
It was discussed at length in The Eclectic Review of 1822 (pp. 324-332).
It was reviewed by The Monthly Review in 1822 (pp 337-350).
More recently, it was reviewed by Sir Hugh Cortazzi for The Japan Society, again in substantial detail. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:40, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable supercentenarian. FailsWP:GNG as there is no coverage in reliable sources. Of the sources in the article, two are from the GRG which are simple names in a table. The third source is a mention in a footnote that states her case "escaped media notice". Nothing here that establishes notability let alone a standalone article. Article also tells us NOTHING that isn't already available in List of supercentenarians from the United States, List of the verified oldest people, List of the verified oldest women and Oldest people. So even if notable, WP:NOPAGE would certainly apply.

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Except there is nothing in the notability guidelines that says "being old makes you notable". Prior AFD was sock infested so there should be a better discussion now. Can you also address the sourcing and the NOPAGE problems? There is literally nothing in this article that isn't available in one of the four or so lists she's on. CommanderLinx (talk) 10:36, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Your opinion that "Article also tells us NOTHING that isn't already available in List of supercentenarians from the United States, List of the verified oldest people, List of the verified oldest women and Oldest people." and "There is literally nothing in this article that isn't available in one of the four or so lists she's on." is wrong. Information that being she was claimed to be a year older is does not exist in List of supercentenarians from the United States, List of the verified oldest people, List of the verified oldest women and Oldest people.--Inception2010 (talk) 11:59, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Sorry, what Commander should have said is Article also tells us NOTHING WORTH MENTIONING that isn't already available in [etc]. EEng (talk) 13:12, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/redirect to appropriate list. Another nothing-article. EEng (talk) 13:12, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete since the whole thing (outside very basic bio) is a collection of unsourced unverified standings in the mythical longevity Olympics. Legacypac (talk) 14:51, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There are not sufficient non-trivial, reliable sources to satisfy the requirements of WP:N and the circumstances surrounding this "case" make it obvious that they do not exist, as noted in the nomination. There is no Wikipedia policy that states that longevity is in and of itself notable, so that is not a reason to keep this article. Canadian Paul 22:34, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - The article has been steadily kept at two different AfDs. WP:NOTABILITYISNOTTEMPORARY should apply here. Also sources indicates that the facts stated are true. Being the oldest ever from a certain US state is as notable as being the oldest from a country. WP:GNG also applies. --BabbaQ (talk) 00:49, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The argument that an article should be kept because it survived prior AfDs is absurd, since if it was valid we'd never have more than one AfD for a given article, not to mention that the prior AfDs are SPA-infested. And, of course, I take it you can't point to any policy or guideline providing that state-level oldsters are inherently notably (which would be ridiculous, since we'd have thousands and thousands of these article, by that reasoning). EEng (talk) 01:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Really? the second oldest person ever in the U. S. and the world's third oldest human ever recorded isn't notable? I beg to differ. He died over 20 years ago so sourcing will be more difficult, but not a reason to delete this page.--Uietueps (talk) 06:25, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Really. Notability is based on coverage, not status. EEng (talk) 06:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Tomato, tomoto, neither were ever the oldest. Strip all the nth oldest now then ever never and you have a the details that go on a headstone, not a biography. Legacypac (talk) 06:16, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to the American supercentenian list as was done for Arbella Ewing, the last second old American and third oldest human being listed. Consensus is that reliable sources are needed and they aren't here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:22, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
there is no information here that is not better presented on a list. I tried reorganizing the seemingly conflicting claims to her rank, but it still says she was both the oldest and 2nd oldest American, presumably because someone passed her later. When the next person passes her, do we remember to update this non-bio attempt at writing ? Legacypac (talk) 02:42, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
How often does the 3rd oldest human OF ALL TIME get passed? Seriously? You've also voted twice now. GuzzyG (talk) 07:50, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep If you're going to delete super centenarian articles start from bottom to the top, not the top from bottom, top three aged human in history IS NOTABLE. NTEMP and all that, it's a shame she died in 1993 and not 2013. Not to mention this got 12681 views in 90 days are we really going to send these people to a list? AFD is not cleanup for bad articles.. GuzzyG (talk) 07:50, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
opps - fixed that. A lot of these non-bio bios look alike. To pass WP:NTEMP would require actual coverage of her life. Legacypac (talk) 08:21, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Again, there is nothing in the notability guidelines that says "being old makes you notable". Can you address the clear failure of WP:GNG as there is no significant coverage in sources and the NOPAGE issue? There is nothing in this "article" that isn't easily available on a list. CommanderLinx (talk) 08:58, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Jeanne Calment got extensive press and other coverage in RS so passes GNG. This subject, not so much. Legacypac (talk)
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:40, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Not a notable Canadian law firm. Not worthy of a wikipedia article. The length of this article demonstrates that. Sportsfan100 1999 (talk) 06:52, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 14:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is a stub. Jeremy Diamond is not a notable person. It appears to just be advertising for him. He links to the article on his law firm webpage. Sportsfan100 1999 (talk) 06:46, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete per WP:SNOW. I'm closing this one early per my comments below. I could wait for more delete votes, but this one seems obvious. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:22, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Either made up or not at all notable, online searches only turn up this article. Captain Sweden 06:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I took a look at another article made by the same user. I think that the reason that you're not hearing anything about this is because this was a homemade movie created by a 7 year old. I've speedied the child's page and I've left a note on the editor's talk page about notability. I think it's likely that the article's creator is probably around the same age (if not the director himself), so I also gave him a link to the page on minors editing Wikipedia. I think that I'll probably close this one early, as a search shows that there's nothing out there and this looks to clearly be a film that he made on his own. I always think that it's pretty neat when children make their own film since that shows some serious creativity and effort on their part, but they rarely pass notability guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:37, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I think I found the same web page as Tokyogirl79, but, in the interests of privacy, I'm not going to comment on it it. If this film exists, I think it's likely that it's a non-notable amateur production. I don't see mention of it anywhere in reliable sources. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:53, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Non notable hadith which fails GNG. Furthermore the article uses Unreliable self-published sources and information from primary sources to create a WP:COATRACK. There are 13 sources given in the article(I may edit this to add other sources if they are added during the deletion discussion). Given below is a rational as to why these fail to hold this article up. Closing admin should note that some voters who edit with a Pro-Shiite POV vote here with "Keep" but will not provide any counter arguments to substantiate this atrocious source misrepresentation in the article, nor will they present any rationale as to why this article is a complete OR Coatrack. These SPA's give some "Reliable" sources discussing this tradition. A simple click will show that as with other ten or twelve thousand common traditions, this too has been mentioned in three or four lines. Not a single reliable source can be found which can give indepth mention of this narration.

  1. The first source is "The Prophet Jesus (as) and Hazrat Mahdi (as) Will Come This Century". It is an unreliable source penned by Adnan Oktar who is nothing more than a conspiracy theorist. Therefore this is an unreliable source and any article which exists based on this as a "scholarly source on Islam" should be deleted.
  2. There are two references to the Quran. This is 100% coatrack, as the very title of the article is "The hadith of....". Including the references to Quran here are just a part of a coatrack.
  3. Source number four is Sahih Bukhari, which is a Primary collection of traditions. This is pure 100% Original Research. Wikipedia forbids WP:OR due to this kind of issues, because editors can cherry pick information out of a primary source and then create an article based on that. There are more than Ten Thousand subjects covered in these Primary books, should every one of those subjects be now used to create a wikipedia topic?
  4. Source number five is a hate book written by Akhtar Rizvi. Now although we can use, and should use, hate books to show the opinions of their writers, we should not use them as sources of "Scholarly opinion". The simple proof that this book is a hate book is that it uses the hate word "Qadiani". A simple analogy is that a book which uses the word "Dirty niggers" throughout the book "should not" and "will not" be used as a scholarly source in African American Articles. Same is the case with books using the word "Kike" throughout not being used as scholarly sources in "Semitic" articles.
  5. Sources six and Seven are once again Primary sources from which information has been cherry picked through WP:OR.
  6. Source number eight is quite a conundrum. According to this article the information is from the book "Nuzool Isa Ibn Maryam Akhir al-Zaman" written by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti. Now when we try to find this book it appears to be un available on the internet in any form. Even Though many books have been uploaded in Arabic, there are hundreds which are not on the internet, so this is not a big deal. It does however raise some eyebrows. When we try to search for this book in google books, to see if "any OTHER scholar" has quoted Suyuti's opinion, we come up empty handed. Only "Religious Polemics in Context: Papers Presented to the Second International Conference of the Leiden Institute for the Study of Religions (Lisor) Held at Leiden, 27-28 April, 2000" and "THE BIOGRAPHIES OF THE ELITE LIVES OF THE SCHOLARS, IMAMS & HADITH MASTERS: Biographies of The Imams & Scholars" have the name of this book in their index, and both of them refrain from giving any quotes etc. So even though this "may well" be a reliable book, up till now I am having trouble ascertaining whether it is even a real book or not.
  7. Source number ten is "Ibn Hajar al-Haytami's book Al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah". This appeared to be suspicious to me from the get go as this a highly polemical book written against the Shia's and Almost the entire book is written to show the good qualities in the first four caliphs. the book had literally nothing to do with Jesus and Imam Mahdi, but I have perused the book just in case. I was not able to find the Original Arabic version but rather an Urdu translation. the first Problem with this reference is that the book has more than one "Sections 11's" and none of those sections 11's is on page 254. The first is on page 477 and talkes about how a marriage was arranged while the second is on page794 and that talks about Ahl-al-Bayat, and nothing is said about Jesus. So this is either source misrepresentation, or something else. In the nutshell, this source also, does not support the article.
  8. Source number 11 is "Fara'id al-Simtayn. p. 43". Now this too is a book which has almost nothing to do with jesus, but again AGF, I took the time to search for it and read it. Now page 43 as given in the scanned version of the original here ( you may have to scroll down and the pages are in Arabic Numeral, so the page number 43 will look like "3" and then a "trident like thingy". this is the image of the page you can see the page in top left, then use the orignal text to scroll to the required page) does not state anything about Jesus, or about the Imam Mahdi. The tradition is in Arabic, an Arabic user can understand it, but if you have a keyboard in Arabic you can type it in google translate and the translation will show that Imam Mahdi and Jesus are absent here. So again, source misrepresentation, or something like that.
  9. Source 12 is again the same dubious book by Suyuti under a different name. Already discussed.
  10. The last source is a "Shi'ite encyclopedia" now even if throw out the little fact that two bit encyclopedias like this are not sources. We are left with a HUGE book and no reference. It is like me asking for the directions to the Ayatollahs house and the reply being."The Ayatollah Bamboozly Al Bomby lives on the earth". Kinda hilarious to be frank.

So seeing all this, the article should be deleted. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 06:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep The talk page of the nominated deletion page was already asking the nominator to put his observation first. Instead discussing the issues at talk page, he has suddenly nominated the page for deletion. I request the nominator to first discuss the issues at talk page. Nannadeem (talk) 19:27, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Closing Admin plz also note my edit-harassment at EN:WP after reading the comments of page deletion nominator that "Closing admin should note that some voters who edit with a Pro-Shiite POV vote here with Keep" Nannadeem (talk) 15:40, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Saheehinfo: Me and some others have the same question here. Mhhossein (talk) 12:10, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Cumberland, Maryland. (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 00:38, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A list of some of the many events around this area. Most don't seem article-worthy. TaylorMoore2 (talk) 18:14, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Procedural Close. Deleted on 16 January 2016 by RHaworth (talk · contribs) (A1: Very short article lacking sufficient context to identify subject of article) (non-admin closure) | Uncle Milty | talk | 12:30, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Move to Wikitionary or somewhere else. Ueutyi (talk) 05:45, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. With the low participation in this discussion, will consider this a soft delete. J04n(talk page) 14:21, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I created this article last year. After another look today, I'm uncertain as to whether he meets WP:ACADEMIC. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 17:08, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Cannabis strains. Never usually close on one !vote but it's been up 3 weeks with 2 relists so can't see the discussion getting any better so redirecting. –Davey2010Talk 00:46, 23 January 2016 (UTC) (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 00:46, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable Cannabis strain. The sole reference ([14]) was removed three years ago for being unreliable, and it's still one of the only sources I can find. Fails WP:GNG. clpo13(talk) 16:40, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to Cannabis strains. It is difficult to figure out the correct search terms with this one. Shamans (as in animistic priests) and their trances are likely connected to cannabis use, so lots of false positives there. Considering the revision history, it is unlikely anyone will improve the article any time soon. The article's unspecific phrasing and lack of sources additionally make it impossible to verify the subject. - HyperGaruda (talk) 19:56, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. With the low participation in this discussion, will consider this a soft delete. J04n(talk page) 14:20, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG, non-notable JMHamo (talk) 12:01, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 00:46, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Only with a template, and no sources. 333-blue 08:37, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep.(non-admin closure) Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:12, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet WP:BAND. The only source for the article is its label and therefore not independent. The label it is on is, however, independent. MSJapan (talk) 05:53, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep perhaps considering the current coverage. Delete for now at best as this has never had any apparent signs of likely better notability and searches so far at Blabbermouth, Terrorizer and Kerrang! found nothing better than this (hardly enough, passing mentions). SwisterTwister talk 01:39, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. This isn't the strongest keep, but I think that there's enough to assert notability for the band. We have two reviews from AllMusic, one from Exclaim!, and one from MetalReviews. They were also mentioned at length in a Bazillion Points book from what I could see. Other than the one album, I don't know that their individual albums need articles, but I think there's enough for the band as a whole. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:55, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 14:17, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Correllian Nativist Tradition (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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Non-notable organization. No coverage in reliable sources. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:51, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete; seems like a hoax. Per Wicca, the religion is a twentieth-century creation, so the idea of a subgroup being founded in 1879 (the date is repeated; it's not a single typo here) is impossible. Nyttend (talk) 20:03, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not a Corellian Wiccan but I do run a major Wiccan website. I can't personally speak for the Corellians as I have never met them but I have met people who have been in contact with them. The Corellians are definitely real and operating in London. They have a group running at this website below which meets 'in the flesh' which is why I came to the site. I wanted to find out more about them. It is definitely not a hoax. I was actually surprised to see that their entry was up for deletion as I understand them to be one of the better organised and more serious Wiccan lineages.
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Can you provide references to reliable sources that support your statement? That is what the article needs in order to be kept. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 00:47, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable, no sources found. Previously kept way back in 2004. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 05:07, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Keep - Thesetwo reports by Smart Growth America has extensive content on the Marquette County Transit Authority which is the full name of MarqTran ("MarqTran" is simply a marketing affectation). Other non-local coverage exists too. [15] --Oakshade (talk) 01:31, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep—but clean up and expand. As Oakshade notes, there are non-local sources, and a quick trip to the library here in Marquette would reveal a plethora of local sources because Peter White Public Library maintains extensive vertical files of newspaper clippings on local topics. Notability isn't limited by those local sources, so adding them would ensure this article meets the bar set by WP:GNG. Imzadi 1979  02:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Tornadoes_of_1983#December . MBisanz talk 00:03, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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There does not appear to be any reason to keep this page. It does not seem like a significant tornado event, with the sole reference being the NOAA (which keeps track of all tornadoes), and it does not appear to pass GNG. Primefac (talk) 04:37, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 03:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A group of programs run by a health center whose article was just deleted. Sourced nearly completely to SOY website. Deletion suggested here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2016_January_8#Sherbourne_Health_Centre by editor that did not know how to nominate it. Legacypac (talk) 03:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I only found one independent news source (Toronto Life), and it was published two days ago. This doesn't warrant an article until such time as it has more breadth of coverage in the media. Mindmatrix 15:44, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Bearcat's updates. Mindmatrix 21:23, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is definitely a poorly written and primary-sourced article in its current state. To be fair, it was written in 2006, a time when our sourcing rules actually did not preclude primary sourcing anywhere near as strictly as they do now — any source at all which verified the content, even if it was a primary one, was once perfectly acceptable. However, a ProQuest search confirmed that it actually does have the level of RS coverage needed to clear the bar under the current standards: it gets hits dating all the way back to 1998 in "Canadian Newsstand Major Dailies". Keep; I'll take a stab at cleaning it up. Bearcat (talk) 17:54, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I've rewritten the article to a more encyclopedic and less advertorial format, and entirely overhauled the sourcing — so it's now in a much more keepable state than it was half an hour ago. Bearcat (talk) 19:05, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 03:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Not a notable person. Yes, there are hits for her and her method, but they all seem to be press releases and fairly brief mentions. There's one mention of her here, as a linguist, but that's about all I could find. Note that this article comes with Helen Doron English, which I nominated for CSD G11; there's an associated sandbox as well, User:Nfleischer/sandbox. That user and a few others seem to have done little else on Wikipedia besides writing up/promoting Helen Doron. Drmies (talk) 03:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nom. A rewrite removing promotional material would leave virtually nothing. I too noted that Jedynak references Doron but I was unable to see her reference 98 in Jedynak, Malgorzata (2009). Critical Period Hypothesis Revisited: The Impact of Age on Ultimate ... Europäische Hochschulschriften / European University Studies / Publications Universitaires Européennes. Vol. 333. Peter Lang. p. 172. ISBN 978-3-631-57528-4. --Senra (talk) 14:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Promotional without evidence of notability. Close to a G11 speedy. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:32, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Against Delete. She is referred to in several articles about languqge studies and the method is being used in quite alot of places. I think it should stay. Also, she wrote a lot of language teaching songs, which qualifies her as eglibe for article. - Dweck (talk) 08:34, 19 January 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.69.179.98 (talk) [reply]
  • Keep I added references and links to studies on her work. She passes GNG and her work has been studied pretty extensively in Poland and Czech republic. Maybe a Polish or Czech Wikipedian can add more refs. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I also removed promotional wording and hopefully the article is more NPOV now. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 00:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:GNG, no claim to notability and no reliable sources to support. I ship deleting this --allthefoxes (Talk) 03:03, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: I don't see any possibility of salvaging this article. The subject (a portmanteau of two subjects) is a fictional construct that is not notable in and of itself. The only Google search results lead to fanfiction pages and similar. Chrisw80 (talk) 03:28, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete by Mackensen under G3. (non-admin closure) Altamel (talk) 06:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Apparent hoax. Nothing about this online or on Google Books. Adam9007 (talk) 01:56, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 00:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Cannot find any amount of sources that confirm the claim to notability. Non notable small games aggregation website with no refs, and I just can't find anything. --allthefoxes (Talk) 01:28, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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