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Category:Children of Prince Shōtoku

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Children of Prince Shōtoku (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Its not helpful to categorize only one article for itself. ★Trekker (talk) 21:09, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support, extreme WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree with nomination. Kbdank71 22:07, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to the category for his father. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:10, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Defeats the entire point of categorization, which is to place related articles together to facilitate browsing. DrKay (talk) 11:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mammals of Belize

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The result of the discussion was: merge all. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:01, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Mammals of Belize to Category:Mammals of Central America

Also Category:Mammals of Costa Rica

Category:Mammals of El Salvador

Category:Mammals of Guatemala

Category:Mammals of Honduras

Category:Mammals of Nicaragua

Category:Mammals of Panama

Nominator's rationale: That, for example, the Gray fox or Jaguarandi (which is currently in 25 geographical categories) is found in Panama is a non-defining characteristic of the species. Note: There are list articles and categories such as Category:Endemic fauna of Honduras. Example similar previous discussion: 2016. DexDor^(talk) 21:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support Per WP:OVERLAPCAT. If there was an island country here or a distinct environmental area, it would be different. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support I don't think the mammals care about national borders. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:20, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Fauna by country categorisation (unless endemic) creates unacceptable category clutter. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Children of Uther Pendragon

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Children of Uther Pendragon (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: It's been pretty much agreed upon that the Arthurian characters are just that, fictional characters, I don't see how it's helpful to categorize three articles of fictional characters by an equally fictional relationship. None of these characters are defined by being the children of this other fictional character. Arthur is best known as Arthur and the other characters simply as supporting characters in his stories. ★Trekker (talk) 21:00, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. There is no need to merge, the articles are already in Category:Arthurian characters. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose They are mythological characters, and not fictional. Their hereditary rights to Uther's throne is a defining elemement of the Arthurian legends. Dimadick (talk) 11:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They are fictional @Dimadick:. No historian today supports that there was ever a King Arthur. It's not like with the Iliad where its actually possible that some of those people may have existed. And even then, if they were real it's still a very small category. Dimadick I appreciate all the good work you do, but you need to stop making categories like these all the time.★Trekker (talk) 11:37, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Agree with nomination. Kbdank71 22:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support nom -- I think that legendary (rather than mythical) is the correct adjective. This is not quite the same as fiction, since there were multiple medieval and later authors who wrote Arthurian romances. Actually Arthur probably was a real person, but we know next to nothing about him for certain. There may be a case for merging to Category:King Arthur's family; also Category:Uther Pendragon, purging it of places. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Already categorized in Category:King Arthur's family and Category:Arthurian characters. Tiny category that can never be expanded. DrKay (talk) 10:56, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Feature films

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Feature films (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

17 more year subcategories

Nominator's rationale: This category has been deleted by discussion twice before as basically redundant to Category:Films. See Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_January_30#Feature_films_by_country and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_September_7#Category:Feature_films. Also all the subcategories listed should be deleted for same reason. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support The logic from 2007 still applies: the vast majority of films are feature length. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:G4. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural comment, the subcategories still need to be tagged. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per all the above. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:24, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, including all daughter categories, by year and decade. Being "featured" is not an inherent characteristic of a film. Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:05, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Geraldo Perez, RevelationDirect, Marcocapelle, and Beyond My Ken: I've tagged all the sub-categories (apart from one that was empty) and added them here too. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 19:50, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above, added and tagged two more.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 23:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Redundant. Films are generally feature length anyway, plus films are always categorized into a lower level defining category such as Action, Sci-Fi, Drama, Romance etc. A generic category at the top level that also includes all feature films from certain years doesn't seem helpful as anything but a container category at best. Canterbury Tail talk 15:23, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support still not defining as I said 13 years ago. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The vast majority of all films that are notable enough for us to have articles about at all are going to be feature films by definition, so "feature" status is not a useful point of categorization — while short films do also exist, they generally don't get detailed or substantial critical reviews or media coverage, so their only real path to actually passing WP:NFILM almost always depends on the award criterion, and thus exponentially fewer short films are actually notable at all. The exceptions that are notable already have a Category:Short films category for them, but it doesn't need to be paralleled by a "feature" sibling to encompass literally every single film that isn't a short. Bearcat (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:West German people by ethnic or national origin

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:West German people by ethnic or national origin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: The only content is Category:Expatriates in West Germany. Expatriates in West Germany are not West German people. Rathfelder (talk) 19:50, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:23, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:West German defectors

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Appears to be no strong objections to the merge. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:West German defectors to Category:West German people and Category:German defectors

Nominator's rationale: The only content is Category:West German defectors to East Germany Rathfelder (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -- There ought also to be a category for those who went the other way, which ought also to be in this. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There were a lot more who went from East to West, but none of them are categorised as such. Arguably it was less defining, at least for those who survived.Rathfelder (talk) 22:25, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Article-specific Wikipedia tables

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 May 26#Category:Article-specific Wikipedia tables

Category:Biblical place names in New York (state)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Biblical place names in New York (state) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Classical place names in New York (state)

Nominator's rationale: Articles such as Acra, New York and Delta Reservoir are about places, not about names. We don't generally categorize things by characteristics of their names - especially when the articles don't mention that characteristic. Example similar CFD: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_November_29#Category:Place_names_of_Hampshire_origin_in_the_United_States. DexDor^(talk) 16:53, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New York State is a special case because a Classicist (Robert Harpur) was also a surveyor and was able to apply Classical names to newly-named places, in the Central New York region in which he was working. There are two books on these New York names ([[1]]). There is nothing similar in any other state. But it would be absurd to mention this in all the articles on the individual towns, although the category at the bottom provides information to the reader. That's the advantage of categories over lists. deisenbe (talk) 23:08, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The purpose of categories is to make navigation easier between articles. If a reader was interested in the place names, having this quick link between, say, Babylon, New York and Sodom, New York wouldn't help them understand the place names. A list article explaining Robert Harpurs influence would. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:10, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete We could categorize everwhere in the US by places named after places in the old country, places roughly named after Native American phrases, places named after geographic features, places named by French fur trappers or Spanish missionaries, etc. Lists that explain the place name etymology are helpful. Placing Goshen, New York under the Category:Christian Bible tree doesn't aid navigation and is non-defining because it's WP:SHAREDNAME. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, this is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment RevelationDirect: to my knowledge, and I've looked, there are no other books on the characteristics of place names in one state only.

Herbert, Anne T. (2003). Robert Harpur's New York: his role in its growth from province to state. Broome County Historical Society. ISBN 1930484054.

Farrell, William R. (2002). Classical Place Names in New York State. Jamesville, New York: Pine Grove Press. ISBN 1890691089. deisenbe (talk) 09:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're rather missing the point - as you said above "it would be absurd to mention this [characteristic] in all the articles" - have you read WP:NONDEF? DexDor^(talk) 09:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete similar to Category:Cities named for Stalin and others done away with in 2007 (Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_April_11#Eponymous_cities). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:25, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
We should stick to the principle that things are not categorised on the basis of commonality of name unless that name is in some way defining. Rathfelder (talk) 22:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. This etymology trivia may be good for article material, but does not bring any value for categorization. Place Clichy (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Yazidi populated places in Turkey

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The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Yazidi populated places in Turkey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: We already have Category:Yazidi villages in Turkey and all Yazidi populated places in Turkey are indeed villages. So no need for this. Semsûrî (talk) 12:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest instead that the Yazidi populated places categories and Yazidi villages categories be brought into line with the other Category:Communities by ethnic group, and moved to a single Yazidi communities category per country. Or at the very least get rid of the Yazidi villages categories instead as Category:Yazidi populated places is the parent category of all of them. Mugsalot (talk) 19:08, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and leave the discussion about the exact name to a bundled nomination for all categories containing ethnic populated places in the Middle East. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete categorizing places by who lives there is often problematic akin to temporary categories. Also, must a place be 100% Yazidi for inclusion? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:26, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or reverse merge. They are very probably Yazidi majority populated, and probably have been longer than Utah has been populated by Later Day Saints or even America by people of European descent. Unlike America, Europe and Middle East are not melting pots. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Carlossuarez46 and Peterkingiron: In this specific case, most Yazidis have left Turkey for Europe so we are talking about historical Yazidi villages. --Semsûrî (talk) 19:19, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is no less defining. Wikipedia takes history into account. Place Clichy (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Category:Yazidi villages in Turkey (or reverse merge). Ethnoreligious communities have shaped places in the Middle East at least since Ottoman times, and this character (when sourced) is defining. However there is no need for a duplicate. Place Clichy (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fokikos F.C. players

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The result of the discussion was: merge. The older "FC" category will be moved over since it has the older history. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:37, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Fokikos F.C. players to Category:Fokikos A.C. players

Nominator's rationale: Duplicate. The club article is found at Fokikos A.C.. Geschichte (talk) 12:00, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Giant Snowman 18:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge histories at Category:Fokikos A.C. players. Giant Snowman 18:43, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:German politicians of Vietnamese descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:German politicians of Vietnamese descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only one, who is already in German people of Vietnamese descent Rathfelder (talk) 10:09, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Geschichte (talk) 12:02, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete triple intersection of nationality, ethnicity, and career. No indication that this triple intersection is notable (e.g., do German politicians of Vietnamese descent do something differently than German politicians who aren't?) And the "descent" problems: objective rationales for how much, how far back, and what reliable sources tell us as much? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Volodymyr Zelensky filmographies

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 May 26#Category:Volodymyr Zelensky filmographies

Category:Georgian Byzantine-Rite Catholics

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:34, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Georgian Byzantine-Rite Catholics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: add links in main article, add main article to all parent categories, add Our Lady of Lourdes Church, Istanbul to Category:Catholicism in Georgia (country), then delete category per WP:SMALLCAT, only four articles, and the category is an odd mix of a topic category (two articles) and a set of biographies (two articles). Marcocapelle (talk) 08:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alter per nom, then delete -- This seems to be a small denomination, which does not merit multiple categories. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Eastern Catholicism, albeit small in numbers, is a topic of encyclopedic worth. There is distinct history for the Georgian community, as shown in main article Georgian Byzantine-Rite Catholics. Following this April 2020 discussion, all related categories have been merged into this single one, which is named after the article. There are therefore no longer multiple categories on this topic. The fact that this community was seemingly more active in Istanbul than in Georgia, as explained in articles Our Lady of Lourdes Church, Istanbul and Peter Kharischirashvili, tells us that Category:Catholicism in Georgia (country) would be a bad place for this content. Place Clichy (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support There's a difference between "small in numbers" and "defunct", which this church, if it ever truly existed, currently is. The proposal saves all worthy material while removing categorical clutter. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. While admittedly small, does qualify. PPEMES (talk) 21:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Extraterrestrial anime and manga

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The result of the discussion was: rename. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Extraterrestrial anime and manga to Category:Extraterrestrials in anime and manga

Nominator's rationale: Better name. Otherwise it sounds like the anime and manga is alien itself. ★Trekker (talk) 08:11, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy rename per nom and also, when will we have the rename button on the categories? SpinnerLaserz (talk) 08:13, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom The current title is misleading. Dimadick (talk) 14:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, but no immediate reason for speedy. The only potential reason to speedy is WP:SNOW. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Elections in Wakayama Prefecture

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The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Elections in Wakayama Prefecture to Category:Politics of Wakayama Prefecture

Nominator's rationale: upmerge, this is a redundant category layer with only one subcategory. A second merge target is not needed, the subcategory is already in Category:Gubernatorial elections in Japan. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:06, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom, not aiding navigation. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:56, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Transgender Jews

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The result of the discussion was: rename. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:12, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Transgender Jews to Category:Transgender and transsexual Jews

Nominator's rationale: I am uncertain whether this category should be renamed or upmerged. The current name is inconsistent with Category:Transgender and transsexual people and its other subcategories. Category:LGBT people by religion does not contain any other sub-categorisations within LGBT (e.g., there is no Category:Lesbian Muslims or Category:Bisexual Christians). To avoid overcategorisation, it might be better to upmerge to the parent categories Category:LGBT Jews and (carefully, where not already in a child category) Category:Transgender and transsexual people. Cheers, gnu 57 04:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge (or else rename), per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely Rename/Neutral on Merge We should definitely rename this to fit the convention. I'll defer to other editors whether there is something about this intersection that warrants a more specific subcategory than with other religions. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:57, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete do transgender Jews differ from transgender Gentiles? We don't have articles Transgender Jews (a redirect to List of LGBT Jews) or Transsexual Jews, and per WP:OCEGRS ("If a substantial and encyclopedic head article (not just a list) cannot be written for such a category, then the category should not be created.") we ought not have a category. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why deletion instead of a merger? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rename, do not merge. Topic is encyclopedic, regardless of other categories that may not have been created. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per Roscelese. SportingFlyer T·C 08:03, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:1941 in Moldova

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/rename as proposed; revisit if necessary Discussion has deadlocked and gone quiet for weeks. The wider category tree is Category:Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic and is almost completely at the long form so any proposal to use the acronym is probably best brought in a separate nomination. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:23, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:1941 in Moldova to Category:1941 in the Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OVERLAPCAT, and the fact that the country existed as the Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic from 1940 until 1991. — 1857a (talk) 00:30, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bundled proposal to rename:

Category:1944 in Moldova to Category:1944 in the Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic

Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support but I wonder whether Category:1941 in the Moldavian SSR would not be still better, though I doubt that its government (as a member of USSR was in fact in control of the country for much of that period 1942-5. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support the target name that Peterkingiron proposed. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Paralympic Hall of Fame inductees

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Paralympic Hall of Fame inductees

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:OCAWARD)

The Paralympic Hall of Fame celebrates the earlier success of athletes at the Paralympic Games. Without exception, all of these articles are already in that category tree in more specific country, sport, year, and, usually, medal subcategories that better aid navigation. The articles are a mix of ones that mention the award in passing, that don't mention it at all, or that mention it in the lede, but that last group is almost entirely due to a single enthusiastic editor so this award doesn't seem defining. The contents of the category are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Background We've consistently deleted categories for Halls of Fame that celebrate the earlier success of athletes at the Olympic Games here, here, here, here, here and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator, per WP:NONDEFINING and per WP:OCAWARD. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:06, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as OCAWARD. I note that I do not have to ask for it to be listified first. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:37, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:International Rugby Hall of Fame inductees

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The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose Upmerging Category:International Rugby Hall of Fame inductees to Category:World Rugby Hall of Fame inductees

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OVERLAPCAT, WP:OCAWARD)

The International Rugby Hall of Fame was a New Zealand award for rugby union players that existed from 1997 to 2007. In 2014, the International Rugby Board Hall of Fame changed it's name to the World Rugby Hall of Fame and automatically inducted all of these earlier winners. (Got all that?) We generally keep separate alumni subcategories for merged schools—example—but in this case I don't think the distinction is defining and it's better to handle this in lists rather than have multiple award categories/subcategories. The contents of the category are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in this former award. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD

Merge per nominator. This is just duplication. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly merge but do we really need either? We have consistently deleted halls of fame, unless there is a physical museum. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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