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Category:Jurists from Dedham, Massachusetts

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 18:40, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only content is Category:Lawyers from Dedham, Massachusetts, which is already in Category:Massachusetts lawyers, Rathfelder (talk) 21:54, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:A Song of Ice and Fire location redirects

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. MER-C 14:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Basically the same topic. Category:Middle-earth location redirects does also unify the film and the book. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:49, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm wondering why you aren't suggesting the reverse; A Song of Ice and Fire represents the source material and franchise, Game of Thrones is just one aspect. Also, as far as I can tell the five entries in Category:Game of Thrones location redirects are not TV series-specific.— TAnthonyTalk 14:29, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac15 21:48, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buntings (bird)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 May 21#Category:Buntings (bird)

Category:Wikipedians who opt out of BracketBot messages

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 18:40, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: BracketBot has not edited since July 2016, and its approval expired in 2019, rendering this category useless. See also Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 May 12#Template:NoBracketBot * Pppery * it has begun... 20:09, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Athlete ACL tears

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 18:40, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Any specific injury occurring to an athlete is non-defining in that it does not contribute in any way or form to their notability and is not something that would generally be appropriate for an introduction. User:Namiba 19:54, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom and per WP:NONDEFINING.
    If for some reason this category is kept, please remove the verbose category header and the bulky photo, and esp the WP:OWNerish comment I am open to any athletes suggestion and comments , You can contact me at my talk page. A simple links to he head article will suffice. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:07, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I apologize as I'm fairly new to Wikipedia since I joined in January of 2020 but hear me out, They share the characteristics of one being an Athlete and two they have the trait of sustaining this injury. You keep referring to WP:NONDEFINING so I looked into it and I quote "a defining characteristic is one that reliable, secondary sources commonly and consistently define, in prose, the subject as having. For example: "Subject is an adjective noun ..." or "Subject, an adjective noun, ...". If such examples are common, each of adjective and noun may be deemed to be "defining" for subject." Athlete is the adjective and tears is the noun. I believe we should keep this category as it also has potential growth over time. It contribute to their notability as an ACL tear is a potentially career ending injury. and I removed my apparent ownership comment of the page which User:BrownHairedGirl perceived incorrectly. I put that there as a way to converse with other users on new entries. 8:42, 12 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SomeBodyAnyBody05 (talk • contribs)
  • Delete per nom, without objection to listifying the category content as a section in Anterior cruciate ligament injury. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete non-defining category. The category's creator seems to interpret the WP:NONDEFINING policy incorrectly. For example, the Category:Deceased basketball players, which was deleted not long ago. – Sabbatino (talk) 06:08, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete NONDEF similar to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_November_29#Category:Tommy_John_surgery_recipients. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:57, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • What's the point of prolonging this discussion if everyone agrees that this should be deleted? Just speedy delete it. Just making additionally difficult for no purpose. I'm getting tired of this. SomeBodyAnyBody05 (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Seems to me an ACL injury can be definitely defining for an athlete's career. I'm currently working on expanding AFLW players' pages and many have quite a few media articles about how they were drafted despite having torn their ACL once/twice/3 times, and then had another few articles if they tore it again. BTW someone mentioned a "deceased basketball players" category, which begs the question why do we have a living people category? --SuperJew (talk) 23:30, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Even if it was a defining characteristic of the person's career that wouldn't mean it's necessarily a defining characteristic of the person. Re living people - see the linked discussion. DexDor (talk) 05:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Freie Universität Berlin alumni

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The result of the discussion was: redirect. bibliomaniac15 03:34, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Kindly help delete this category. I had started it without knowing Category:Free University of Berlin alumni was in existence. Danidamiobi (talk) 18:17, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Venezuelan people of World War I

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. There does not appear to be a major consensus to delete per nom. bibliomaniac15 18:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One article, about a man who joined the Ottoman army. Rathfelder (talk) 18:03, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Spain was neutral. The one article is about a musician who died when the ship he was in was torpedoed. Rathfelder (talk) 17:49, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Switzerland was not involved in World War I. Rathfelder (talk) 17:47, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  1. It is not a defining attribute of Enrique Granados that a citizen of neutral Spain, he was nonetheless killed in the conflict?
  2. It is not a defining attribute of Charles Petter that a citizen of neutral Switzerland, he nonetheless fought in the conflict?
Really? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:49, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Peterkingiron (talk) 17:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The subjects of the articles are by no means all combatants. If they were then I would agree that there was a reasonable connection. Most of them could not really be said to have participated at all. Rathfelder (talk) 14:43, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pakistani generals

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The result of the discussion was: keep. It appears that the category at the moment does not refer only to generals of the Pakistani army, but instead refers to generals of Pakistani descent. bibliomaniac15 18:43, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To make it clear. Störm (talk) 15:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, with regret. @Störm is correct that the current title is ambiguous, but unfortunately the current title fits the convention of Category:Generals by nationality … so either we rename them all or keep them all as they are.
Note that a simple renaming would not work, because the two formats do not have identical scope, especially for countries which achieved statehood relatively recently, such as Ireland and Pakistan. Many Irish and Pakistani people have held high military rank in the armies of other nations, including the British Empire in both cases. In the case of Irish people, the scale of the Irish diaspora means that there were notable Irish generals in the armies of several other countries, including Spain, the United States and some South American nations. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:11, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Railway lines by century

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The result of the discussion was: rename. For now, the rename will be as nominated. A future CFD can be filed regarding the alt target proposed by Peterkingiron should people feel strongly enough about it. bibliomaniac15 18:48, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming:
Nominator's rationale: for clarity and consistency.
Clarity: the current titles are ambiguous. They can be read either as being:
  1. railway lines which opened in a given century (their current usage)
    or
  2. for railway lines in use in a given century.
    For example, the British West Coast Main Line was built in the 19th century, but has remained a major transport route in the 20th and 21st centuries. The current category titles can be read as implying that it should be in all three by-century categories.
Consistency: These categories are effectively containers for the by-decade categories (e.g. Category:Railway lines opened in the 1890s), and through them for the by-year categories (e.g. Category:Railway lines opened in 1891). The centuries should use the same format.
Disclosure: that the decade categories were recently created by me. Until yesterday, the year categories were placed directly in the century categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:53, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Places named for Confederate heroes by state

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 18:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SHAREDNAME
These categories are, with few exceptions, U.S. counties that were named after prominent Confederate historical figures. We already have a List of U.S. counties named after prominent Confederate historical figures. (The contents of the Louisiana subcategory are more varied and include several towns and a college dormitory.) The source of the name does not seem defining to categorize the county articles here and this is better handled by a list. Alternatively, if kept, rename to a more neutral name. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:38, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Prix Amerigo Vespucci recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 18:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
The Prix Amerigo Vespucci was founded in 1990 a the International Festival of Geography and is given at a book fair to award books focused on adventure and travel. While it is named after an Italian explorer, this is a French award and, while it is given to specific books, this Wikipedia category groups the authors of those books. About two thirds of the articles mention the award in passing and the rest not at all so it doesn't seem remotely defining. This is one of many French literary award categories created in late 2016/early 2017. The contents are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:38, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD
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Category:Wick Poetry Prize winners

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 18:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
The Wick Poetry Prize at Wick Poetry Center at Kent State University for poetry. This isn't a traditional prize giving in passing, rather it coincides with publishing a book at Kent State University Press and a week-long residence on campus to teach poetry. This award/book promotion doesn't seem defining: half the articles mention it in passing and the other half not at all. (One that was written by the creator of this category does mention it in the lede.) The contents are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:38, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD
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Category:Middle-earth mountains

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 14:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one non-redirect in here (Mount Doom). Per WP:RCAT, it's preferrable to have redirects in redirect categories. Thankfully, Category:Middle-earth location redirects exists, so the redirects can be moved to that very applicable redirect category. Mount Doom, the one article in this category, can be upmerged into Category:Middle-earth locations. Hog Farm (talk) 00:05, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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