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Category:Tourism in the Republic of Artsakh[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Because the Republic of Artsakh no longer exists, these categories should be merged into the present-day Azerbaijan. The top-level category should also be merged, as it also contains only the main article and one subcategory. It is possible that some of the pages are already elsewhere in the Azerbaijan categories — this would need to be checked manually. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Dobrujan Tatar[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category. It only has two articles: Dobrujan Tatar and Dobrujan Tatar alphabet. Everything can be included in the parent Category:Crimean Tatar language, as Dobrujan Tatar is a dialect of it (and the page on the dialect already includes this category). Super Ψ Dro 23:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might sound confusing due to the geographic names but the Crimean Khanate once extended beyond Crimea and its population was semi-nomadic from what I understand. Dobrujan Tatar is a dialect of the Crimean Tatar language, this has been discussed already at Talk:Dobrujan Tatar. Super Ψ Dro 10:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, I had not checked ths talk page. From what I understand of the discussion, the merge target should be Category:Kipchak languages. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, it has been not. We are not linguist at all. I, as a speaker of this language, disagree with it. The situation of this language is not clear!!!! Maybe you hear "it's a dialect" from somewhere and act with own knowledge, this is not a solution. The language is in discussion by SIL, and they noticed that the language is different than Crimean Tatar. The discussions are in progress. Zolgoyo (talk) 13:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from the Savoyard state[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 23:21, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:EBU stubs[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category and template, newly created to hold just one article. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim for just one article of interest -- the minimum bar for the creation of a stub category is 60 articles, and for that very reason stub categories should normally be proposed for creation by Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting rather than just getting created willy-nilly.
But the parent category ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:European Broadcasting Union has just 14 articles in it of which only two are short enough that tagging them as stubs would be justifiable -- so really the only possible source of any significant amount of content for this is the ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Eurovision events subcategory, but ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Eurovision Song Contest stubs and {{Eurovision-stub}} both already exist to cover that off, and the one article that's been filed here already had that on it, thus making this entirely redundant to another stub template and category that we already have. Bearcat (talk) 21:43, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Film series characters originally introduced in a film[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Category of dubious utility, created just to hold a single article. I have to assume that the intended distinction here was "film series characters originally introduced in a film vs. film series characters originally introduced in other source material that a film series was adapted from", because that's the only way this makes a lick of sense -- but that isn't a useful or defining distinction, and would be an utter nightmare to try to maintain since every film character who has an article at all would have to be in either this category or an "adapted medium" sibling. We have no other "film series characters originally introduced in [type of medium]" categories that I can find. Bearcat (talk) 21:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Named roads[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization on a non-defining and unmaintainable characteristic. The category's name itself is obviously silly, because nearly all roads that exist at all have names and the few roads without names are profoundly unlikely to be notable at all -- but the usage note on the category is far more specific, identifying the category as "about the roads that are named after famous personalities", which is just a straight-up violation of WP:SHAREDNAME, and still approaches indiscriminacy anyway since a lot of roads are named after people, with it becoming very subjective whether any given person is "famous" enough to categorize the road as "named after a famous person" or not. Bearcat (talk) 20:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:21, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The idea was to create a category for eponymous roads in India.Most of the roads in India follow a standard numbering system(like NH1,2 …; SH1,2… etc) .Roads are named after people only in few exceptional cases.So the idea was to create a category solely for eponymous roads in India.But if this seems to violate any Wikipedia policy you can delete it. Tmanthara (talk) 04:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cricket administration in Mexico[edit]

Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in each of these categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cricket administration in Bermuda[edit]

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:00, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Organisations based in Macau[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Subcats use a mixture of -s- and -z- spelling; seven others currently use z. There is no reason to use the -s- spelling in Macau, diverging from the international default -z-. The voluntary orgs cat is non-standard and an unnecessary layer, and the Scouting and Guiding cat holds only one article. – Fayenatic London 16:19, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename and merge all per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:41, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Independent film stubs[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Stub category and template that have likely outlived their usefulness. As always, the core purpose of stub categories is to facilitate expanding and improving the stubs enough that they can be pulled out of the stub categories -- so the most useful stub categories are ones that correspond to a community of editors with some expertise in the subject area, who can therefore collaborate on expanding the articles. But there isn't any particular community of independent film experts -- editors' areas of expertise are going to centre around countries and/or genres rather than indie status per se.
That is, there are editors who work on American films regardless of their major vs indie status, and editors who work on Japanese films regardless of their major vs indie status, and editors who specialize in science fiction films regardless of their major vs indie status, and on and so forth, but there aren't really any editors whose area of expertise is "independent films irrespective of country or genre".
This was certainly a good faith creation at the time, when we had far fewer articles about films and far fewer stub categories to group them in -- but the stub category tree is now so much more deeply granularized that this just doesn't represent a particularly useful characteristic to group stubs on anymore, because we have many more stub categories for much more specific and collaborative country and genre and time period groupings than we had in 2006.
I've already gone through the category to ensure that each article also has genre and/or nationality film stub templates on it as well, so nothing will be stranded if it goes, but it's just not at all clear that indie status is nearly as useful a basis for collaboration as the country and genre tags are. Bearcat (talk) 15:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Zimbabwean Queen's Counsel[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Only one category about the former country of Rhodesia. Since Zimbabwe isn't a Commonwealth Realm, this category won't have any articles in it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Maltese Queen's Counsel[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Dual merge; only one article. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sandžak[edit]

Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic. Regional name Sandžak is apparently hardly in use anymore. Even the articles in the history subcategory hardly mention it. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:26, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Considering Sandžak is very small area of Serbia, there is really not that much to write but it deserves to have a separate category. I'm not sure if there are rules involved as in how many articles should category have in order to even be considered but I believe that the amount written so far is good enough to keep it. Боки ☎ ✎ 07:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sex-documentary-film-stub[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Stub template of unclear utility. It's only used on three articles total, which obviously isn't enough to give it its own dedicated category -- so instead it just sorts the three articles directly into ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Documentary film stubs, where it just represents duplicate categorization because all three films are also in the ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:1960s documentary film stubs subcategory alongside it, and ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Sexuality stubs, which is too broad and overgeneralized to be a useful place to look for films. So all this is really adding is superfluous stub categories that the three films don't really need to be in. Bearcat (talk) 14:05, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cricket administration in North America[edit]

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. It is sufficient to have Category:Cricket administration by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:59, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former Muslims turned agnostics or atheists[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Parent is Category:Converts from Islam and the sibling category is Category:Converts to Islam from atheism or agnosticism Mason (talk) 03:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Recipients of the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:OCAWARD Nayyn (talk) 02:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Comic Book winners[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:OCAWARD and as there is a list article already Nayyn (talk) 02:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Historical geography[edit]

I can't imagine that these are fundamentally different concepts. I have tagged both categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:54, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Option 2 Main article is Historical geography, while Geographic history redirects to History of geography. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Adding a representative sample of subcats to encourage further participation.
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Relisting comment: I am going to tag all of the subcats; if there is no further participation I would expect this to be closed as option 2.
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Bengali–Assamese script[edit]

Nominator's rationale: There is a single Bengali–Assamese script shared between the two languages, even though they use different alphabets. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong, there are multiple scripts for both languages (note the plural "scripts"), and the Bengali–Assamese script is one of these scripts used and shared by both languages (with minor differences), but there are other scripts (like Naoriya Phulo script). Look at the category content, they clearly cannot be merged as their listed scripts are not the same. They are not all the same single script. Only the Bengali-Assamese script (just named "Bengali script" in Unicode and also named "Eastern Nagari") is unified; the other scripts are distinct. As well within the "Bengali alphabet" and "Assamese alphabet" (which are relevant parts of the shared script specific to each language) are not the same (just like there are multiple Latin-base alphabets). verdy_p (talk) 02:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are only two articles about scripts in both categories, the rest has been added as a matter of loose association. Propose to move these two articles to the two parent categories and then delete the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:01, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cricket organizations[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Serves no purpose, as the only contents are a subcat that is in the same parent cat as the category being discussed. Gjs238 (talk) 12:39, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jesuit musicians[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Non defining intersection between occupation and religion Mason (talk) 23:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Films directed by Wayne Kramer (filmmaker)[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Needless disambiguation. Clarityfiend (talk) 13:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose per associated article Wayne Kramer (filmmaker). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:12, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Buddhist monks from the Western Regions[edit]

Nominator's rationale: rename, for English speaking readers of Wikipedia the term Central Asia is more familiar than Western Regions. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, as it is in effect a "former nationality" category. The article Western Regions refers to a historical period (up to 8th century CE) as well as a geographical range. All the current member pages are from that period, and renaming to "Central Asia" would lose this. "Western Regions" is named with reference to China, and its significance for Buddhism seems to be that Buddhist monks from this region took their texts into China during that period. – Fayenatic London 08:45, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Television series by Fox Television Animation[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Given Fox Television Animation is a former name/entity of what is currently 20th Television Animation since 2020, I propose splitting up this category to differentiate the two eras of this studio's works. All of its productions from 1999 until 2020 should remain here, while any works made since the 2020 rebrand, I propose be moved to a new Category:Television series by 20th Television Animation. For series made under both, both cats ought to be present. The category as it is can be misleading with the cat name using the former "Fox" brand despite the description using the rebranded one under Disney. An example that supports this, as noted in the prior RfD here, is that we have separate cats at "Category:20th Century Fox films" and "Category:20th Century Studios films". That RfD suggested a split rather than a rename as initially proposed last November, but was closed with no consensus as no one else responded. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Conscientious objector Medal of Honor recipients[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent categories per WP:NARROWCAT. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Whirly-Girls[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge; the name is not what these women are referred to but only the name of the organization. Note that these articles are already in Category:Women aviators by nationality. Hence only single merge. Alternative suggestion: keep and rename to Category:Women helicopter pilots which would expand the scope of the category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I think renaming to Women Helicopter pilots is suitable and appropriate. There is currently a lack of categories on Wikipedia to suitably identify/locate topics/persons related to women's aviation. The current categories make it difficult to find these aviation pioneers, which are few and worthy of inclusion in a category as it is a defining characteristic. This is why I developed the category in the first place. Thank you for the measured discussion here. Nayyn (talk) 23:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While there are categories for female aviators, gyro and rotor pilots have different certifications compared to fixed wing pilots and thus it is a unique and defining category. There are comparatively few women who are helicopter pilots overall, and a category specifically for helicopters is particularly useful addition to Wikipedia. Nayyn (talk) 23:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
as per WP:USEFUL [t]here are some pages within Wikipedia that are supposed to be useful navigation tools and nothing more—disambiguation pages, categories, and redirects, for instance—so usefulness is the basis of their inclusion; for these types of pages, usefulness is a valid argument Nayyn (talk) 23:47, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't agree that "women can be easily traced in Category:Women aviators by nationality." I think the suggestion to "keep and rename to Category:Women helicopter pilots which would expand the scope of the category" makes sense.
I'm not sure what the argument "not a defining characteristic" refers to above? Nayyn (talk) 00:59, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Non-defining is a keep tennet of Wikipedia:Categorization. @Nayyn, I strongly encourage you to familiarize yourself with the policies of categorization. Mason (talk) 12:24, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional illeists[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Previously deleted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 19#Category:Fictional illeists then undeleted out of process. Still seems non-defining. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:G4. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
G4 doesn't fit, as it was undeleted via Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion rather than recreated. --HPfan4 (talk) 23:13, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would still support deletion per WP:TRIVIALCAT. I just don't see this as a defining characteristic. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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