Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation/CJKV task force
The CJKV (Chinese Japanese Korean Vietnamese character) taskforce is jointly operated by WikiProject Disambiguation, WikiProject China, WikiProject Japan, WikiProject Korea, and WikiProject Vietnam with a goal of creating and maintaining appropriate disambiguation pages whose titles use the following character sets: Traditional Chinese, Kyūjitai, Hanja, Han-Nom, Simplified Chinese, and Shinjitai (Kanji).
While Wikipedia:Naming conventions discourages Chinese characters in article titles, CJKV disambiguation should be used whenever a simple Roman character redirect will not work. Example cases where CJKV disambiguation may (or may not) be necessary are listed at the Chinese characters sub page. 文 and 財閥 are good examples where disambiguation is necessary.
For the current list of all CJKV disambiguation pages see Category:Disambiguation pages with Chinese character titles.
While the taskforce is jointly operated, WikiProject Disambiguation is the main guiding project as all disambiguation falls under its purview and the other projects cover only parts of the focus of this taskforce.
Participants
[edit]Listed alphabetically. Feel free to add your name if you wish to participate.
- Endroit (talk)
- Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs)
- JHunterJ (talk)
- Kusunose (talk)
- 日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe
- Paularblaster (talk)
- Sonagi (talk)
- Umofomia (talk)
- Visviva (talk)
Some useful templates
[edit]- {{disambig-Chinese-char-title}} — Put this at the bottom of the dab page instead of {{disambig}}, when the dab title contains chinese characters.
- {{transliterationof}} — {{transliterationof|ARTICLE-NAME|CHINESE-CHAR-NAME|DAB-NAME}}. Use this to disambiguate between different transliterations, if such disambiguation would be helpful. For example, see Kowloon, where they are used to link to the dab 九龍 (disambiguation).
Suggestions for name disambiguation
[edit]This is a list of pages where disambiguation may be needed. Once you have dealt with an entry, or if an entry does not appear to need further disambiguation, simply remove the entry from the list.
- 九龍 - could refer to either Kowloon or Cuu Long
- Done. Created 九龍 (disambiguation) with Kowloon as the primary redirect.
- I created the following two, but administrators speedily deleted it after believing that they duplicated Chaoyang District and The East is Red, respectively. Thus I ask you whether these are necessary.
- 朝阳区 (and 朝陽區). It could refer to a district of Beijing and Changchun, Jilin Province. It translates to Chaoyang District, which could point to the aforementioned districts as well as a district in Shantou, which is 潮阳. the one-radical difference is small, but crucial.
- 东方红 (and 東方紅). It could refer to Dong Fang Hong (a space program), and The East is Red - the song and the Cultural Revolution film. But the full title of the 1993 film is not simply 《东方红》.
- Could anyone weight in on whether Draft:山上 should be accepted? — Stevey7788 (talk) 09:38, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Past discussions
[edit]The issue of CJKV characters in titles of disambiguation pages has been discussed a few times in the past. In general these discussions have achieved little consensus and produced no concrete modifications to policies either to explicitly permit or explicitly ban CJKV disambiguation pages:
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mon (currency) from September 2007, which resulted in the suggestion to create this taskforce
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Archive 2#CJKV_disambiguation_pages
- Wikipedia:Articles for_deletion/東北大學 and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/東北大學 (2nd nomination) from December 2007
- Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 May 18#朝阳区. Changed from redirect to Chaoyang District into redirect to 朝阳.
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 June 15#Category:Disambiguation pages with Chinese character titles, from June 2010
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/失楽園 from October 2010, which resulted in deletion due to being a disambiguation page containing only two items: John Milton's Paradise Lost and Junichi Watanabe's A Lost Paradise, the former of which is not typically referred to using a CJKV title
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/蜀 from November 2010, which closed as no consensus
- Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 30#Non-Roman characters in article titles from November 2010, a discussion which arose after the above AfD
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/南山 from August 2011, which closed as keep
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/南山 (2nd nomination), fromJuly 2013, closed as no consensus
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/松山 from January 2013, which closed as keep
There have also been some articles created about CJKV characters, using those characters as the titles of the articles themselves. So far these articles have generally been deleted for lack of notability or redirected to articles about the word represented by the character, without much consensus about whether the titles themselves are appropriate for articles, let alone for disambiguation pages:
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kana alphabet articles, which resulted, among other things, in moving the articles to their Latin transcriptions. (Unlike in the case of CJKV characters, those transcriptions are unambiguous).
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/漫画 from December 2005 resulted in deletion of the article at that title. In January 2006, the title was then redirected to manga. In 2010 it was converted into a disambiguation page for manga and manhua.
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/屌, from July 2005
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/廖, from October 2005
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/喆, from July 2006
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/寸, from January 2009
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/安, from July 2009
Similar issues have also come up in the discussion of "extended Latin" and Greek characters, though again not always related to disambiguation pages:
- Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 28#German sharp S
- Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 31#Non-Latin letters in article titles
Current discussions
[edit]Please list current discussions here.