Talk:Manjappada/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: ArnabSaha (talk · contribs) 07:55, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Comments[edit]

Why its named "Manjappada Kerala Blasters Fans" instead of just Manjappada? I couldn't even find this in fanclub's website. Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Citations aren't properly formatted. Like author's name, source date missing. Done Iamfarzan (talk) 14:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Awards and recognition" - this part is unsourced. Done Shahoodu (talk) 07:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Swap the positions of "controversy" and "Awards" section. Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"...claimed them as Manjappada members" - the citation doesnt say this. It says, "member of manjappada" Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Chants and tifos" - the section says noting about chants. DoneShahoodu (talk) 07:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Integrate "Women's group" in history. its just a single sentence para. (MOS:PARA) Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Add English translations for non-English citations. Done Iamfarzan (talk) 14:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Citation [40] is a dead link. Done Shahoodu (talk) 07:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Manjappada have an ... games to fans." - unencyclopaedic. Done Shahoodu (talk) 07:34, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Awards and recognition" add prose to this section. Done Poppified (talk) 03:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
An image is notimated for deletion. Done Shahoodu (talk) 07:34, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Avoid caps in citations like in citation [23]. (WP:ALLCAPS) Done Iamfarzan (talk) 14:33, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Break the lead into 2 parts and expand them a bit. Done Shahoodu (talk) 14:44, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Needs a lit bit more expansion. Add the establishment time, travelling fans, yellow colour. This would be my final point of the review. Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe 12:24, 4 January 2021 (UTC) Done Poppified (talk) 13:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Citation doesn't say manjappda won 2020 fan club award. DoneShahoodu (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
How boycotting matches is a controversy? Done Shahoodu (talk) 16:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The lead should compile all the info present in the body. But things like Indian Sports Honours, 14 districts etc. aren't present in the body. DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- It says "12 other Indian states" but, not mentioned in the body. Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe 07:27, 19 December 2020 (UTC) Comment: I missed to add 12. Now its Done Shahoodu (talk) 09:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Avoid citations in lead. (WP:CITELEAD) DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
For the chant, use {{Quote box}} instead of the existing {{Quote}} Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:13, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mention with citation that manjappada means yellow army, in the body. DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Not everyone who... - this starts with quotation, but doesn't end. DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think its required to mention "The 12th Man" in the lead. Its a normal thing for all the clubs. Nothing distinct. Even there's a article on this 12th man (football). DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If there's not specific author of any source, nothing required to mention. Like its mentioned 'no-author' incitation [48]. its not required DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- This still exists. Like in citation [30] Goal is written in author's name. Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe 06:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC) Done Iamfarzan (talk) 06:51, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The citation [39] doesn't prove this "The group wear as..." Done
Use – between years. (2020–21, instead of 2020-21) DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Citation [90] is a blog. Need a another source (WP:BLOG). Comment: Couldnt fins better source. So removed it from lede and body Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:07, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It mentions "ISL" multiple times. A first time reader will have no idea what ISL is. Add "Indian Super League (ISL)" wherever its mentioned first. Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:39, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Citation [13] doesnt say, Manjapadda is spread accross 44 countries.
- Comment: Added proper citation Done Shahoodu (talk) 08:50, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
" ..49,000 during the inaugural season" - link the inaugural season with the season article. Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"...150 flags are used for each game." - citation doesn't say 150 flags. Try to solve the data issues like these. Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The active social ... to fans." - Even smaller fanclubs provide regular updates in social media. so, I dont think, its required to mention. Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Add "rivalry", "other activities" in the lead as the lead summarises everything in the body. Done Shahoodu (talk) 17:05, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the infobox, |Abbreviation=Manjappada. How?? Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink 'keralite' in the body Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
citation [71] is a dead link Done Poppified (talk) 16:25, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
citation [40] is in malayalam. but the title mentioned in ref is in english only. DonePoppified (talk) 16:30, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
in citation [87], instead of "Manjappada | Heart Beat of Kerala Blasters.", mention only "manjappada" Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"I can only wish it wont happen again" - won't Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The event was a initiative aimed at honouring sports" - "an initiative" Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Manjappada members occupies it during" -- "occupy" Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"the West Block Blues, the largest supporters' group of Bengaluru FC" - citation doesnt say its the largest Done Poppified (talk) 10:01, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Any dimensions available for the tifo? if yes, add it. Done Poppified (talk)
In the section "Chants and tifos", it starts with "Apart from their official anthem, Manjappada..." - I would suggest adding some details for the anthem. search some Malayalam sources. Done Poppified (talk) 08:14, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
wikilink the first "Kerala" in the body Done Poppified (talk) 03:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
add an external links section and put the website there. Done Poppified (talk) 03:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As of when manjapadda is spread over 12 states, 14 districts, 44 countries? and avoid using "currently" (WP:Currently) Done Poppified (talk) 15:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any other issues.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  16:07, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI[edit]

The first sentence in the lead - 'Manjappada are the organised supporters' group of KBFC"... are they the only organised fan group? I suggest changing the to an, or, if you have a source for it, the largest. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI ^{converse | fings wot i hav dun} 07:42, 19 December 2020 (UTC) Changed the into an Done Shahoodu (talk) 08:56, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
At the logo page provide rationales for WP:NFCC#1 and WP:NFCC#2, i.e. for why it is not replaceable by free-use media and why you think it won't hurt the owners commercially, ASAP. (Second point is not too important, but do try to justify NFCC#1). If you cannot then explain why. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI ^{converse | fings wot i hav dun} 07:57, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DonePoppified (talk) 11:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Lee Vilenski (in WP:Discord)[edit]

During the 2018–19 season, the Blasters were winless in 14 games and fans became dissatisfied with the management's indifference towards them. Although Manjappada boycotted a December 2018 game against Jamshedpur FC,[19] "We don’t intend to boycott our club’s matches, since our motto is 'Nammalk Nammalund' ('We have us')" stated the group. - not really sure what this means DoneShahoodu (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The "Manjappada stand" originated in 2014, during the Blasters' first season.[ - what is this? :Clarified DoneShahoodu (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Id argue that culture section needs a rewrite - most of it is obvious, or pointless. Done Shahoodu (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There's a few refs that have weird |work parameters, such as Sportskeeda APP is the No 1 Personalised Sports APP available today. Just select your fav teams & players and you are done. Done. Iamfarzan (talk) 13:54, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]