Talk:Shockat Adam

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Page title change[edit]

Change the page title to Shockat Adam Patel? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:3B00:BB01:E8E9:C3C1:2567:ECF4 (talk) 08:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've requested this move (see below). GnocchiFan (talk) 19:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 July 2024[edit]

It has been proposed in this section that Shockat Adam be renamed and moved to Shockat Adam Patel.

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Shockat Adam → Shockat Adam Patel – Full name of individual. GnocchiFan (talk) 19:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Appears to be widely referred to in media as simply Shockat Adam, and the subject indeed appears to go by that name [1]. Curbon7 (talk) 20:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose He used the name Shockat Adam on his candidate nomination papers.

https://www.leicester.gov.uk/media/vpdf1pxg/statement-of-persons-nominated-notice-of-poll-leicester-south.pdf 86.9.3.177 (talk) 10:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Appears as Shocket Adam on the parliament website^[1]
Oppose: not the common name, and he has formally used the name "Shockat Adam", as mentioned above. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 13:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose uses this name in interview with The Guardian [2]. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Clear common name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. He is named as Shockat Adam on the official UK Parliament website. Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk 15:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This MP, along with over 300 other MPs, assumed office on 5 July 2024[edit]

I had changed the date assumed office to 5 July because my understanding was that MPs become MPs when they are declared "duly elected" by the returning officer for their constituency. For the vast majority of MPs, this will be the early hours of the morning after the date the polling stations were open. On seeing that several other MPs on Wikipedia have their date of office as 4 July, I was going to revert this one back to that date but saw I had been beaten to it. I have now confirmed with the House of Commons Enquiry Service that MPs assume office when the returning officer announces the results. Therefore hundreds of Wikipedia entries are all incorrect on the date they give. Nonetheless it seems this would require, including MPs elected in previous elections, viewing all the television footage of general elections to see which ones were first elected for their current constituency before midnight and are one of the few that have the correct date. The date is wrong for every other MP, but given the amount of work involved and the approach taken historically, I don't propose now to correct it for any of them. aspaa (talk) 06:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aspaa: Considering that the UK Parliament website gives 4 July as the start date for all newly elected MPs (even the one whose declaration was on 6 July), I think we should simply use 4 July in all cases. Further discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom#"Term Start" — RAVENPVFF · talk · 10:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ https://members.parliament.uk/member/5120/contact

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