User talk:Callanecc

Blocking

Hello. You blocked user ალექსანდროს on Wikipedia as if he was a sockpuppet of user Nugo20299. How could 1 or 2 edits posted on this talk page qualify the user as a sockpuppet? Please use your CheckUser rights and check the IP addresses of these users. Otherwise, this is an unfounded decision. Users cannot be unjustifiably blocked based on complaints from politically motivated users without a thorough investigation. How can 1 similar edit by two users be considered a reason for blocking? It's incredible. Best wishes, გიო ოქრო 13:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi გიო ოქრო, I did use my CheckUser rights which is what my comment when I said "possilikely" means. I've used CheckUser to compare the accounts and found that based only on the CheckUser evidence it's likely-possible that they're the same. With the addition of the similar edit it was enough for me to do the block. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Even if you compare my account with any of these users, the result can still be "likely-possible". When users live in the same region or city, and use the same providers, how justified is it to rely only on "likely-possible"? გიო ოქრო 13:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

It's unlikely to be at that level. If ალექსანდროს wants to appeal the block I'm happy to consider the reasoning they provide. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aaryajin88‎‎

No sleepers? - UtherSRG (talk) 17:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

@UtherSRG: One suspicious but nothing definitive enough to block. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Have they edited, or just sitting out there? - UtherSRG (talk) 02:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

No edits or actions and it's a very common user agent so I can't be sure if its the same person or not. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Ruben Vardanyan (politician)

Hi. I would like to ask for your advice, since you advised us before in similar situations. We were advised at AE to try dispute resolution. What would you recommend as an appropriate DR process at this point? As you can see, there is not much discussion going on at the talk, my messages remain unanswered for days. The contentions issues are that the official charges against this person were removed from the article, so it is unclear what exactly he is being charged with. Also, the article calls him a political prisoner in a wiki voice, which I believe is not line with WP:NPOV, because it is not generally accepted to consider this person a political prisoner. Probably, we need to ask the wider community to help decide on this? Or what would you recommend us to do? Grandmaster 06:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Another issue is that the article claims that "The US Congress has stated that he and several others have been illegally detained in violation of international laws", but in fact the US Congress did not make any statements about Vardanyan. It was a speech by a single politician, senator Markey, [1] who does not represent the entire US congress. The enforcing admin at WP:AE was not happy about the misrepresentation of the primary source, but did not find it actionable. If I remove or rephrase that claim to attribute it to the person who made it, would it be alright? False statements such as this actually damage the quality of Wikipedia, but I do not want to get involved in any edit war. I don't think we need DR for obvious things like misrepresentation of a source. Grandmaster 06:26, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Grandmaster, regarding dispute resolution, you're probably at the point were you need to do an RfC on the talk page to resolve the issues. That's probably the best way to resolve the charges issues.
I'll preface this by saying that I haven't read the talk page so I'm taking what you've said at face value. Given that I can't see any issue with you rephrasing it to make it clear that it's some members of Congress rather than Congress itself. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I will follow your advice. Grandmaster 06:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@Grandmaster: Actually looking at it further, you could probably just ping the other two editors and let them know that you'll make the changes you suggested 5 days ago unless they need to discuss further. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, will do. The user who made those changes has not been active for 2 weeks now. I actually asked if they had any objections 5 days ago, the second editor responded, but he has not responded for another 5 days to my follow up message. I will ping them both now, to see what their response will be. And I fixed the statement of senator Markey. Grandmaster 06:56, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi. As you can see, the discussion is not moving anywhere. No comments since 17 July. What would you advise to do next? Grandmaster 07:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Looks like there is now. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes, there is some discussion underway now. I hope we'll be able to resolve it by consensus. Grandmaster 08:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

But I believe we may have a bit of a problem with the new user who does not seem to understand WP:WEIGHT and WP:NPOV. Grandmaster 08:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Your comments re: spelling corrections

Thank you -

I appreciate and understand your points. It is humbling though instructional that I made what seemed to me a simple change - when in fact it was not.

I understand that you are quite busy.

Thank you! Dmack914 (talk) 03:02, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Dmack914, no worries at all. The more you edit the more you find out about what Wikipedia works behind the scenes. Hopefully you're not discouraged and you keep editing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

NoonIcarus Venezuelan politics topic ban

Hi, Callanecc,

Regarding NoonIcarus's April 2 topic ban (archive) and the May ArbCom, I am considering asking the community to relax the ban, going back to a revert restriction. My thoughts are that a) the arbcase revealed issues the community wasn't aware of during the ANI; b) some editors mentioned they didn't enter a declaration on the ANI as they thought it would be decided at the arb level (I recall for example Amakuru in addition to myself); and c) events and developments since the close of the arbcase may mean the broader community now has a better understanding of the bigger picture and the effect on Wikipedia.

Unless you think it's too soon to approach a noticeboard about re-visiting NI's topic ban (would the venue be WP:AN?), I would first want to discuss on NoonIcarus talk what I saw as behaviors contributing to the issues and how he might do better going forward. Is it OK for me to discuss his involvement in Venezuelan politics frankly on his talk page, and will he be able to respond there without breaching the topic ban ?

Thanks in advance for any advice (and I hope Amakuru will jump in as well), SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi SandyGeorgia, seems like a good time to go back to AN to reduce the TBAN to a revert restriction. No issue with you discussing the ban on NoonIcarus's talk page in order to prepare for a discussion about appealing it. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Callanecc ... I'm quite busy over the next few days, and maybe Amakuru will weigh in before I get to this. Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @SandyGeorgia and Callanecc: I'm on vacation currently, so quite busy, and don't have a huge amount of time but if I get a chance I'll review this in the next couple of days, remind myself of the circumstances. It sounds at first glance as if a reduction in scope would be appropriate. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

No hurry; I am similarly busy! Thanks, Amakuru. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Amakuru to save you some time, here's your previous post. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

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