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This user declares his annoyance at browsing through articles initiated by US or UK users which fail to mention that the theme has to do with one of the two countries (arguably because they assume that English language wiki means "English/American wiki").

Twigs on branches

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Well, here is the (hopefully useful) Tașcu entry… — Biruitorul Talk 18:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While we’re at it. Author: Dumitru Micu. — Biruitorul Talk 15:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also picked up some other stuff, more or less randomly:
Pamfil Ș (why not?), by Iordan Datcu;
Various Scena variants by Ana-Maria Brezuleanu, Alexandru Farcaș, Ion Istrate;
And two from vol. E/K: Karnabatt two three (Florin Faifer);
and Adolf de Herz (Călin Teutișan). — Biruitorul Talk 11:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tita 1 2, author Alexandru Teodorescu, vol. S/T (like all of these)
Teodorescu-Braniște 1 2 3, Ofelia Ichim
Păstorel 1 2 3 4, Nicolae Mecu
Tafrali 1 2 3, Călin Teutișan (bonus: Talaz, by Eugen Onu) — Biruitorul Talk 15:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wow! Big thanks! Dahn (talk) 15:38, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the Scînteia stuff: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]
Authors: Tudor Hăndăbuț, Ioan Milea, Magda Wächter, Nicolae Bârna (no idea who I. T. is; not in the index). Also, see Demeter Ritter von Tuschinski. — Biruitorul Talk 08:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As this was rescued from the archive, how about we celebrate with a couple from vol. C/D?

Deșliu: [8], [9]. Author: Nicolae Mecu

Caraion: [10], [11], [12], [13], [14]. Author: Laurențiu Hanganu. — Biruitorul Talk 15:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fănuș, Volume L/O, author Dumitru Micu: [15], [16], [17], [18], [19]. — Biruitorul Talk 10:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And here is Sasu; author: Radu G. Țeposu. Biruitorul Talk 10:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Micu is more eminently usable than RGT, who is by now a bit redundant to what's already present and more detailed in the text. Dahn (talk) 11:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My pleasure. One point: my understanding is that Simion only authored the short italicized quotation on p. 561, and that Micu (based on the credit on 562) is the sole author of the entry. — Biruitorul Talk 22:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will amend in my next edits. Dahn (talk) 22:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Raicu: [20], [21], [22], [23]. Author Alexandra Ciocârlie, vol. P/R. — Biruitorul Talk 10:25, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A bit of Tușinschi spam has crept back in here. I do like the “Prof. Dr.” on the new photo. — Biruitorul Talk 20:21, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Biruitorul: În altă ordine de idei, do you happen to have a DGLR entry on Cavarnali? Or an a fella by the name of Liviu Bratoloveanu? Dahn (talk) 14:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Unfortunately, not right now: I’m physically rather far from any DGLR volumes. In about six weeks’ time — say October 1 at the latest — I’ll have them for you. Biruitorul Talk 16:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So, I have quite the update. Some kind soul uploaded DLGR last year, in its entirety. It’s the 2016 edition, ISBN 978-973-167-381-3 for the first volume, A/B. (Cavarnali doesn’t have an entry.) [24], [25] Here’s Bratoloveanu, author Victor Durnea.
    The link is here. I know you’re not an Internet Archive fan, but at least this is the section without a subscription required, and I suppose it beats waiting until autumn. Biruitorul Talk 22:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Excellent, and thank you for this find! (As it happens, I don't dislike them, I just happened to be annoyed by some guy's unhinged claim that I should subscribe on IA to verify random DYK hooks, just in case the paper source is there.) Dahn (talk) 06:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some help

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Hi Dahn, hope you're well. With this message I expose myself further as a talk page stalker, hope you don't mind... Above you mentioned Arcanum, a great resource that I am surprised I had never heard about before. I've found there many newspapers talking about marginal figures, which probably duplicates the amount of sources about them that I thought existed. One such figure is George Ceara (or Ceară), an Aromanian poet. He seems to be related to a modern Aromanian poet, Ilie A. Ceara (or Ceară, likewise). I had planned writing a page for George for months but couldn't find any source explaining their relation. Only once I found a book snippet which I dismissed anyway because I think I deemed it to be inappropriate (maybe it was a primary source, I don't remember anymore) believing I could find something better, but I haven't been able to. Could you help me out? I see both have many results in Arcanum, does any explain the relation between the two? Regards, Super Ψ Dro 12:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Super, and thanks for stalking me, as well as for all the wonderful work you're putting in! This piece by Emil Lazăr-Dejeanul has the following: De reţinut este şi faptul că unul dintre cei 7 fraţi şi o soră a tatălui lui Ilie Ceară a făcut Facultatea de Litere din Bucureşti şi a ajuns profesor, atât în şcolile din România, cât şi în Grecia de Nord, dar şi un cunoscut poet de expresie română şi aromână cu numele George Ceară. Nepotul acestuia, scriitorul Ilie Ceară, încă de la vârsta de 5 ani a ajuns orfan de tată, orfan şi de mamă. (Citation Emil Lazăr-Dejeanul, "Scriitorul aromân Ilie Ceară", in Astra Dejeană, Vol. VII, Issues 3–4, December 2000, p. 14). Dahn (talk) 21:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is exactly what I needed. Thank you so much for the help! Best, Super Ψ Dro 21:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By the way Dahn, what pages does "Scriitorul aromân Ilie Ceară" cover in the magazine? Just for the sake of exact citing. Super Ψ Dro 19:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just page 14. Dahn (talk) 21:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ilie Purcaru

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On 28 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ilie Purcaru, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ilie Purcaru, as a contributor to Nicolae Ceaușescu's cult of personality, claimed that a young Ceaușescu had walked into the woods of Scornicești without fearing their wolves? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ilie Purcaru. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ilie Purcaru), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:18th-century Wallachian poets has been nominated for splitting

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Category:18th-century Wallachian poets has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024

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DYK for Alexandru Talex

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On 15 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alexandru Talex, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alexandru Talex was described as "the gentlest" member of a Romanian far-right organization? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alexandru Talex. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alexandru Talex), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 June 2024 (UTC) [reply]

story · music · places

Thank you for another good one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

József Fischer

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Hello! I created an article about József Fischer, a prominent leader of the Jewish Party (Romania). If you would like to expand, please feel free to do that, since I found only incomplete information about his political involvement in Romania. Norden1990 (talk) 20:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Norden1990: A general advice, if I may: the sources I used in writing the Jewish Party article have more in-depth coverage about the Fischers than the prose required there. I would suggest that, instead of repeating the content you have found in the article, you have a fresh look at the sources cited which you can check yourself (Frojimovics et al, presumably), and complete the research with detail that should not go into the party article, but needs to appear in a biography. Otherwise, the article just looks like a transplant of info. Dahn (talk) 13:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, I do not speak nor write Romanian, and my knowledge of the Romanian political system between the two world wars is extremely limited. The person was interesting to me because of his activities in Hungary during the Holocaust. --Norden1990 (talk) 09:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Norden1990: There is absolutely nothing unfortunate about that, you are actually of immense value to this project as a Hungarian-speaker (and of course, for many other reasons). I kindly ask that you reread what I wrote: it is precisely to ask that you please focus more of the article on sources that are only marginally used in Jewish Party (Romania) (I mentioned Frojimovics et al, which has some more coverage of the Fischers than was needed in the JP article, and which was published in English -- you only seem to have used and duplicated the parts that I had cited in the JP article); it is also to encourage you to also search and use sources in Hungarian that were not used in the JP article (and which will presumably have much, much more to say about Fischer and the other Fischers). That is my vision for the article, if you will. Dahn (talk) 03:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AN

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When a discussion is closed, you should not edit it. By continuing the discussion to prove some point you have simply further escalated the issue. As I mentioned in the close, there are other more appropriate venues to resolve your disagreement, continued discussion at WP:AN risks sanctions against you both if you can't disengage. Polyamorph (talk) 08:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Polyamorph: I was simply editing in my response exactly while the discussion was being closed -- I probably entered the editing window exactly after your closure, not noticing that it had been closed in that 9-minute interval. When I noticed that it had been closed, I had already written in my answers, and I frankly have no idea what the proper procedure is for that situation. You can of course remove my answers and re-close, but I would kindly encourage you to give me the benefit of the doubt. Dahn (talk) 13:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ștefan Tita

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On 5 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ștefan Tita, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that educational writer Ștefan Tita gave Romanian students impractical advice on mending damaged bark with bandages of dirt? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ștefan Tita. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ștefan Tita), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding citations

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Hi. When you're adding entries to articles like 2011 in literature, it's mandatory to include an inline citation. I've just added one for you but it would be really helpful if you could remember to do so in future. I'm aware that many of the older pages have some citations missing, because this rule didn't always exist, but if we can at least keep the more recent years fully referenced, it will improve matters. Deb (talk) 08:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deb: Has it dawned on anyone so far that basic biographical facts are referenced (or should be referenced) in the articles themselves (you can easily pick them up from there, in all articles I contribute), and that adding a string of redundant citations needlessly duplicates the text? This is why I don't consider this mandatory, and would rather not have myself bound by it. I will of course continue to cite all facts I introduce in other sections of those pages, as I have always in the past. Dahn (talk) 10:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it has been much discussed and the decision was made in 2018. It's fine not to consider yourself bound by it, but be aware that your contributions can be removed, by anyone, at any time, if you don't include the citation. Deb (talk) 10:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would imagine it absurd to remove an "uncited" fact that is perfectly cited in the article, but yeah, okay. On the other hand, there is nothing absolutely prevenring anyone from removing cited facts as well, particularlt on pages that are so evidently unpatrolled, and completely chaotic in content. I'll take my chances. Dahn (talk) 11:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also: can we talk about what is mandatory in citations when you guys agree to at least consistently enforce a single citation format over all such pages, or at the very least over one page? Dahn (talk) 10:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By "you guys", I'm assuming you mean the Wikipedia community, which includes you. It's open to you to raise the matter any time you choose. Deb (talk) 11:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, just the guys who look after those particular pages. I have limited time to spend of such chores, but surely now that you are aware of this issue, and have noticed the anomaly (as for instance in the clash of styles between the citations you have added regarding Neagu, and the rest of the citations on that very page), you might start whatever procedure is required to fix it. Dahn (talk) 11:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody "looks after" pages - everyone is expected to. If you don't have time, you can drop out of the project without recrimination. Deb (talk) 11:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You mean I should stop contributing to wikipedia because I didn't add citations to basic facts on those pages? If so, permit me to inform you that you are out of line. And yes: there are users who take a constant interest in the "in literature" pages, to which I only have a passing interest. Now: are we just about done here? Dahn (talk) 11:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you should stop contributing to wikipedia if you don't add citations to basic facts. WP:V is non-negotiable. The WP:BURDEN to provide citations is on you if you edit. If you don't add citations, you can and should be blocked from editing. You've been around far too long not to understand this. And yes, we are done here. Toddst1 (talk) 17:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Before you get off my page and on to your business, please clarify how you came across this talk page and decided to go directly into taunts and faux warnings. Have we even interacted before? Dahn (talk) 17:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, here's the deal: As a rule, I contribute massively with cited content, including the entire article that I linked to on 2011 in literature -- namely, Fănuș Neagu. I view the citations as redundant on "in literature" pages, as long as they are cited inline in the articles. I do not prevent anyone from adding citations (such as pasting them from the linked article that was written and referenced by me), or citation needed tags, or even removing the facts that are "not referenced" there, on the "in literature" pages. As utterly ridiculous as that is, especially when weighed against the fact that all birth and death sections on the "in literature" pages were originally unrefenced.

And no: adding unsourced content, even if I had been doing that, is not a blockable offense.

That said, let me make this very clear: haranguing and trolling me on my user page is a really bad idea, as is the suggestion that I should leave wikipedia, or be blocked from editing, for not embracing your pet peeves. Continue commenting here, particularly in this manner, and I will gladly escalate the matter (as much as I detest ANI etc procedures). Have a good day. Dahn (talk) 17:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 219, July 2024

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Eugene Sârbu

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Eugene Sârbu died, a violinist who made an international career, with star names among his teachers, and still has no article in German, French, not even Romanian. If you have a bit of time, might you check if some of the Romanian teachers could have an interlanguage link. With a bit more time, check for refs in Romanian and add? - The Strad obit reads pretty much like a mirror of our article, therefore I don't trust it too much ;) - I'll have more time for him next week. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'll look into that, also at some point over the coming days. What strikes me for now is that his birth name was "Eugen" with no final "e", and there are plenty of Romanian sources, rich in detail, referring to him under that name. "Eugene" seems to be an Anglicization, but then "Eugene Sârbu" is an unusual variant, since it preserves the diacritic on "â" after Anglicizing the first name. What page name should we hold on to, in your assessment? -- we also have "Eugene Sarbu" or "Eugen Sârbu". (Let's note in passing that "Eugen Sîrbu" with a "î" was also a variant used in Romania until he was well into his forties, when "â" made a comeback). Dahn (talk) 14:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ... and - to make things worse - the QEC has an diacritic on the first name (only): Eugène Sarbu --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well yeah, but that looks like it's a full-on Francization, as in "Eugène Ionesco". Dahn (talk) 14:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Understand, - back to your original question: the most cited refs - Grove and Strad - have Eugene, Grove has the surname with diacritic, Strad without. I haven't looked at recordings much. For the moment I'd go by Grove, and you can please make a footnote about variants. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Eugene Sârbu

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On 29 July 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Eugene Sârbu, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 22:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Fănuș Neagu

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On 12 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fănuș Neagu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that writer Fănuș Neagu (pictured) claimed to have spent the Romanian floods of May 1970 stranded with a feral wolf on the roof of a cannery? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fănuș Neagu. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fănuș Neagu), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 220, August 2024

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Voting for coordinators is now open!

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Emil Isac article

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“Isac was affiliated with Almanahul Literar before 1949, when it was redesigned as Steaua monthly (for long still the only Romanian-language literary periodical published in Cluj)”

“Almanahul literar” did not exist before 1949, it had its first number in December 1949, and was renamed “Steaua” in April 1954 (both numbers are accessible at the digital library of Babeș-Bolyai University). Isac died in March 1954, so it was called “Steaua after he had passed away. Have a great day! Rummycove (talk) 14:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 221, September 2024

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The Bugle: Issue 222, October 2024

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